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asciilifeform: diana_coman: i currently do not know why mp fatwa'd ro, but must assume it was not because flag is wrong three colours
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Off to roll and disk
diana_coman: fwiw romanians are *still* the most responsive for some reason; and honestly, I even tried to steer away from ro.
diana_coman: some are yet to wake up and answer
diana_coman: some are at least...looking to see if they can
asciilifeform: diana_coman: anyone got past this just yet ?
diana_coman: I got to the point where I'm firing them emails ~ can I order that or the other *without* your "account" that I utterly don't need; and similar.
asciilifeform: nuffin catastrophic in that patch, simply cures the single-quotes thing.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: I am slowly digesting log (because I ate too much ips-talk today really) but I'll get to that too, thank you.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-07 21:53:44 asciilifeform: lobbes, diana_coman : logotron tree updated, removed 'shlex' , tested with bare hands on local staging box ( baitbot ! ) , can be used .
asciilifeform: btw diana_coman there is bug fix , in case this was lost in the chaos .
diana_coman: asciilifeform: I somehow think I might not be the only one valuing your seal; but anyway.
asciilifeform: and ty diana_coman , i did not know that you esteemed the seal.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'd happily sell. but who to buy...
diana_coman goes to eat some log
mp_en_viaje: aite well, shall be off for the night.
asciilifeform: important to get the disks tho, the rk people may want'em.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: rk per se is perhaps the least expensive piece in there, asciilifeform for instance is sitting on a crate of 16 new ones right here and presently nfi what to do with'em
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: can retrieve it last, if you must. get the disks labeled and out 1st, they ought fit in pocket.
BingoBoingo: Well, the width makes it a challenge for that. Back bag only so tall. Strongly disinclined to leave it open an take the astronomicly small chance pichi blazed out on pasta base gets unusually curious/bold.
BingoBoingo will probably have to use duffel for RKplane given it's delicacy seems incompatible with ratchet straps and ride
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Right. The ones I haven't yet taken are coming out next trip. Had to get more labeling tape
asciilifeform: boxen belonging to not-piz oughta be rescued 1st.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: do the vacant -- last, but otherwise ok
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: For the next three extractions I am leaning towards taking mod6/BTF, trinque, and the shared leaving Qntra/DNS, Rockchip plant, S.NSA vacant, switch, and the bilge box to be extracted
asciilifeform: his www too .
asciilifeform: fella's gonna come back to a 2MB log read, it seems
ossabot: trinque last seen in #trilema on 2019-10-03 22:53:34: sorry for the gagged deedbot meanwhile; that outage caught me in the middle of a multi-channel experiment
asciilifeform: !o seen-anywhere trinque
ossabot: trinque last seen here on 2019-10-03 22:53:34: sorry for the gagged deedbot meanwhile; that outage caught me in the middle of a multi-channel experiment
BingoBoingo: !o seen trinque
BingoBoingo stretching a bit before I roll again. Tweaked hip a bit unloading cart
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942598 << ftr asciilifeform can afford to feed a 3-4hundy cow. but so long as in fact gives milk. and still seems steep imho .
asciilifeform: ( for machine setups, preferred to use BingoBoingo as living kvm... )
asciilifeform: was used only coupla times, to fiddle bios configs when baked new raid arrays .
asciilifeform: ftr i did ~not~ like that kvm tho, needed toilet computer to operate (java shitware client) but exhaustive market survey yielded ~only~ that
asciilifeform: ( there's 0 reason to leave these hanging 24/7 )
asciilifeform: well that 1 didn't. and only occupied a switch hole even when was operating.
mp_en_viaje: there's no real reason it should take a u rly.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: fwiw the 1 i purchased for piz, didn't even occupy a rack slot, it was ultracompact matchbox-cum-wires thing
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: one simple pill is to colo a kvm. but obv. 1) costs 2) someone has to agree to operate.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 13:39:05 asciilifeform: in piz, we solved this by having kvm device in the rack. apparently heathens no longer keep these around, near as i can tell.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942537 << i suppose this'll take moar thinking huh
asciilifeform: i dunno who these people think they are, to ask for half the cost of a whole flat, for 1u. but so far these.
asciilifeform: so far seems that signif. higher cost in northern idiotistan, if only on acct of 'buy 1 hole' vs cage . tends around 300-400 $ per .
asciilifeform: rather than freight mails.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: advantage of local orcs, supposing can agree on price, is that if their park suxx, can walk over and remove in half hr
mp_en_viaje: either they behave or they misbehave, how they explain it to themselves is not even interesting to "their' women.
mp_en_viaje: does anyone give the first shit whether the wardrums go ooga booga or oo-aa ?
mp_en_viaje: at the worst they're giing to "omfg, child porn". which 100% maps to "ddos", orcs just went dumb.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i'ma then investigate .
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 13:27:36 asciilifeform: again experimenting w/ 'what if within physical range of asciilifeform ?' but does not expect fat return. granted these wouldn't in a million years eat btc, but w/ mp's agreement, asciilifeform could feed it orcbux and eat btc . in principle.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: point! difficult to picture how could worse than uy orcs
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 13:28:26 asciilifeform: i would not propose to attempt 'isp' in the heart of mordor, but possibly could house a box or two that way.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942531 << why not, specifically ? what are they going to do, at the worst, else/dffferent from orctards in ~selected~ orcland ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 12:31:23 asciilifeform: some places immediately seem broken tho. e.g. asciilifeform only needed a day in bucharest to understand that would not want to live there.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-07 06:37:31 mp_en_viaje: lobbes, when is it you'll need a server to sit down orchestra on ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-07 13:06:49 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941226 << The 'first chunk' which spits lines into the mpwp db should be complete by the end of this month (as in patched and ready to go). That's a conservative estimate as well; hopefully sooner.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-07 21:34:35 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941357 << i meant the whole thing, when you're ready to make delivery and i hafta have a server ready for you to do this on.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-07 21:24:16 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941645 << at my current rate of developing the thing, I will give a tentative estimate of Jan 1st 2020 as delivery date of whole enchilada. I will update this deadline quickly if I see it threatening to be pushed
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1942027 << this strikes me as utterly insane, for a spot of work that in my book counts to about 5 man-hours.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Only folks who said anything were the ones at the building door. Instructed me to use a different exit next time.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Dulap and two S.MG machines extracted
BingoBoingo: mod6: ty
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: laters then
BingoBoingo about to roll
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: from what was given, impossible even to say ~how many~ layers !
BingoBoingo: Hanging off of predictably unresponsive Centurylink, who the probably selected on the basis of "biggest, etc" along
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: These per the narrative I was given were passed by dedicado suggesting we are several layers deep in unsustainable sysco weird.
asciilifeform: seems like (supposing it even makes sense to discuss the output of muppets as if it were a measurement) represents the intake ~after~ it has gone through latech. i.e. the 'they blocked us upstream' story of theirs dun check out.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 06:47:49 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1942095 << holy shit wtf muppetry is all this already. https://ibb.co/0K2Z4TK screenshot of a java-run console emulator wtf omfg kill it with fire. AND the unquotable line shows... exactly what we were discussing. they capped out at 4Mbps and thassit.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942333 << ftr i found it impossible to determine ~anyffin from the given photos.
asciilifeform: aite. would be a shame to lose opterons on acct of skimping 5 $ of cab tho.
asciilifeform: rather than wheelbarrow 3km.
asciilifeform: i rec cab for movement of these.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Will use some sort of cushion. The full sized boxes are too large for any suitcase I brought to Uruguay. Hence the value of your ancient giants.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if you roll'em 'naked' on a wheelbarrow, are likely to suffer the fate of harrison's 1st chronometer.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: use that suitcase you had as cushion (or i suppose could take cab)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Aite, I acquired ratcheting straps for the hand truck. About to get some boxes out.
asciilifeform: iirc at least 1 had a trb noad going on rk .
asciilifeform: storage aint restricted to thumb-sized stick, either -- at least 1 subscriber iirc had a full-sized 'samsung' ssd plugged in via snake.
asciilifeform: they have quite respectable performance, for e.g. blog; and nuffin intelistic inside'em. Gb nic, too.
asciilifeform: as for why anyone would want an rk back -- potentially could colo'em , if you buy a 19in box (20bux or so) . most colo outfits dun give a damn what you colo so long as it hangs on the rail .
asciilifeform: anyone who has something other than a raid5 and wants disks mailed, plox to indicate.
asciilifeform: a 'last hurrah' of the raid5 functionality.
asciilifeform: raid arrays (e.g. asciilifeform's) i recommend to be mailed in N separate envelopes.
asciilifeform: folx who want live disks mailed, are to understand that the integrity of their contents cannot be guaranteed.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: rk's i suggest to be offered to their current inhabitants for cost of postage. ( and if anyone would rather have the disk stick cremated, oughta indicate, and it then added to the pyre ) . the rk's per se have no writable storage aside from the sd & stick .
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: customers will have to get pro-rated refunds, iirc buncha folx refueled just week ago.
asciilifeform: and BingoBoingo will have to decide wat-do re the crater. at the very least must get out of the latech contract, or may have to evacuate on short notice .
asciilifeform: nao, to continue the funeral, at some pt shareholders will have to decide what-do re the remaining pieces, incl. coin. specifically, how much to burn on attempting orc lawsuit etc.
asciilifeform: would like to see it return asap.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo have you thought about where to put qntra ? i already miss qntra .
asciilifeform: for os, we had a BingoBoingo who physically soldiered in the rack w/ boot sticks etc.
asciilifeform: maintenance (of e.g. box that somehow got misconfigged and can't sit down on net) via serial plug is possible , but not os install.
asciilifeform: ( 'just use ipmi, what are you, terrorist ? ' etc )
asciilifeform: in piz, we solved this by having kvm device in the rack. apparently heathens no longer keep these around, near as i can tell.
asciilifeform: the spread of the impi retardation among heathens is potential problem: would have to either swallow it (i disabled in all of these) or find someone who , like the moldavian, is willing to serialport ( dun solve the problem of os installation tho, to such a place would have to ship'em with disks containing something resembling os )
asciilifeform: as i understand, diana_coman has asked for the old disks to be cremated, so the smg boxes will need redisking, but potentially this could be done on-site where they are to go
asciilifeform: re smg again -- if diana_coman wants cleaning/redisking/inspection, i'll do it , but oughta keep in mind that if they visit usa there is moar likely to be what to inspect for in 1st place, obv.