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asciilifeform: well, per the contract there was also gonna be a working pipe!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Per the contract the cage would have to be in arrears 30 days or longer before they can suspend service, deny access, etc
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: dun have to answer this if aint ready yet, but have you had chance to think , where BingoBoingo will go next ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i fully expect that when you show up to tear up the contract, they'll try to cook up some bullshit re the cage being in arrears . hence wai important to empty it.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Latecho hasn't done any hidnering today. Just the lobby tile police.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if busibodies pop outta that woodwork to hinder, get'em on camera.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: seems liek already been some hindering today ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Ideally tomorrow they will all be in the habitation module. If recovering the boxes is hindered, THAT, the hindering, is actionable.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: aite. but ideally all the irons will be safely under BingoBoingo's bed tomorrow.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: here is how FGs went in machine, if this helps. if that space aint there (and in most boxes, in asciilifeform's experience, it aint) then can only put'em by e.g. forgoing raid card and using that space. or in 5in. disk slot (which most also lack.)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Tonight it is too late to get the cardless girl into the building, but yes I am trying to think of something that will make the servers ergonomic enough to carry. Legionaire's kit is meant to be worn. Server meant to be densly racked. The potential to drop a chassis more than anything is what gives me pause.
asciilifeform: nuffin in that rack weighs moar than a roman legionary's kit. theoretically even 1 can carry.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: bring the gurl or somebody trusted and hand-carry'em if you must.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Next dive I want to recover mod6's data, whatever fits in the mochila that isn't the switches or power cables. Then I plan to ask for access to the door for wheels.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the sooner you officially stop the service, the moar likely can recover sumthing from the orcs. tho , as mp pointed out, it is difficult to picture that we'll see a penny
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: try to get the machines out. errything else after. don't break yer back tho. << Three machines in one trip with wheels went well enough 4 should not be a problem. Without wheels, I am contemplating the logistics as we speak
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ok. next wheelbarrow plox to rescue trinque and mod6 . then the rest, when you can.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It should be paid up through the end of this month per my notes. Then there's + 7 business days, etc, etc per the contract.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: until what day exactly is the rack paid up ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: try to get the machines out. errything else after. don't break yer back tho.
BingoBoingo: TBF/Mod6, Trinque, UY1/Shared Hosting, S.NSA vacant
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: What remains are all the rails, misc unused adapters and more USB TTYLs, The Rockchip plant, a small mountain of power and network cables, the rackmount power strip, the two switches, and the following 1U servers that will need wheeled out:
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform mod6: I plan to return and SSH into the box.
asciilifeform: mod6: why wouldja want the raid card but not the whole box ?
asciilifeform: ( the latter largely 'academic' curiosity , but curious )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: got it. what remains in the cage ?
lobbesbot: mod6: Sent 57 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> I apologize, but I have not yet backed up your server. I will return with the disks, power it on again, and see what I can do with the credentials you passed.
mod6: Thanks BingoBoingo. If it proves difficult to get logged into the server with the disks in the enclosures; perhaps don't worry about it, can just ship the disks back. But while you're at it, it may be pretty helpful if you pull out the raid card and drive cables to the card and send that along as well.
BingoBoingo: When I went earlier and wheeled out the three servers, there were two receptionist girls in the glass box. When I returned on disk mission, there was no one in glass box well before normal departing time.
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell mod6 I apologize, but I have not yet backed up your server. I will return with the disks, power it on again, and see what I can do with the credentials you passed.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform and everyone else: All disks are out of the rack with the exception of the RockChip kernel SD cards. Maybe a couple of unused RK spare are hiding in the bilge box. A variety of miscellaneous was recovered as well including the KVM, a couple handfuls of USD ttyls, the unsealed FUCKGOATs that were plugged into RockChips, and for sentimental value the Qntra/DNS server I flew into the country with because it's tiny ass fit in
asciilifeform: diana_coman: know that not in erry box can one even put FG, even if orc willing to open it -- needs a pad of space. asciilifeform deliberately chose such boxes as had this space.
diana_coman: and ukrainians (or so it seems) with servers around europe do not list opterons but are amenable to offer it if one asks.
asciilifeform: 'lately spring broke, from cold, / like from prison, once more, / by mistake once i let out a word: / 'friend, leave a little to smoke!' / silence -- was all i heard, as he never returned from the war.'
asciilifeform: ( oblig drumhead translation :
asciilifeform: now i also wish that could give working boxes, as easily as patch...
diana_coman: thank you asciilifeform for the vpatches.
diana_coman: bot & reader deployed to latest head (aka no shlex-mlex mess); searches with ' should not fail anymore
asciilifeform sat down to read some ossasepia while waiting for a compile, and then 'damn, it was on piz!', and qntra, it's like having 4+ phantom limbs...
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 06:06:48 mp_en_viaje: http://trinque.org/wp-content/themes/trinque/style.css << i see the problem now. your browser prolly hangs on this diana_coman ; i have ly set to just ignore
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i made same mistake the other day, was convinced i had made a broken patch
asciilifeform: hrm, paste.deedbot seems to be dead. ( was it on piz?? i didn't think it were ? )
diana_coman: asciilifeform: nm, found the trouble, it was corrupted sig file on my end; sorry about the trouble, it's been a long day here.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: did you actually check/press to that last shlex_removal?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: this is tru, when i was 7yo also 'had time to think for 100d' but what resulted in was of course not worth to print anywhere ('a good bear but not a good dancer', who wants a 7yo's home-baked diode? )
diana_coman: asciilifeform: you see the problem on "uninterrupted" but others see it on "think about something" , you know
asciilifeform: picture, to be able to actually think about something uninterrupted for 3, 4, 10, 100 days!!
asciilifeform: which is why when i encounter a fella like shinohai, who has 100% of his time, it boggles my mind that he hasn't built a thermonuclear dirigible simply as a side effect of basic fucking metabolism
asciilifeform: lobbes: items like this, or this, asciilifeform was able to pull off by burning 'vacation days' .
asciilifeform: lobbes: speaking strictly for self -- 'quick' jobs are quick because they (incl. 'fit problem in head' phase) can be fit into a single slot in b/w salt mine idjicies. whereas things large enuff as not fit, much moar friction. (erry time must load it in... again, again, ... )
asciilifeform will be the last 1 who is to be asked re training critter, must leave the subj to folx w/ actual high pilotage under their belt, mp & co
asciilifeform: still trained.
lobbes: asciilifeform: interesting re: kuklachev (I had never heard of him). And I see what you mean, though even when found what a certain cat is willing to do, still must train that cat. I do enjoy what I do/have done here so far, just... I still have much to learn
asciilifeform: they , like erry scamatron, are more interested in getting new rubes to sign fat contract than to actually service existing. ( esp. if 'new contract' is 'netflix cache' etc )
asciilifeform: lobbes: re dc and floors, this is i suspect typical .
asciilifeform: they were thought to be untrainable. but turned out that erry cat had a performance that he's willingly do. was matter of finding.
lobbes: lol, btw, at dc where we learn marble floors > working dc and lifts that don't have booby traps
asciilifeform: this was tru for e.g. BingoBoingo .
asciilifeform: lobbes: i suspect that you will find certain things very simple, that asciilifeform has not strength to even attempt of yet.
lobbes: asciilifeform: I guess that was my point; what is simple for you ain't so simple for me
asciilifeform: lobbes: if asciilifeform appears to do sumthing quickly, it is only because was simple job. ( or terrible kludge piece. )
lobbes: asciilifeform: I dunno, you got that logotron out at breakneck speedz ( I know you recycled phuctor's www chunks, but still )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Ah, sí they fixed that number light thing
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 17:11:48 lobbes: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942586 << I anticipated this response, but not sure how you figure utterly insane. I'm not asciilifeform nor diana_coman for e.g.; I'm still pretty "green" at programming and need to research each design phase and thoroughly test my implementations as I go to make sure it is correct. Oftentimes discover "shit, I fucked up, need to redo this part". I.e. learning as I go
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942688 << lobbes , i am prolly the slowest pair of hands here, mp never once misses a chance to remind of this...
asciilifeform: diana_coman: perhaps you will want to locate several boxes , in diff. parks. moar resistance to sudden deaths.
asciilifeform in piz tower pushed what looked like button in the lift, it fell N stories down, and hole -- razor-sharp
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: hey did they ever fix that button in the lift ?
diana_coman: asciilifeform: atm I don't have box ready for this (I wasn't actually prepared for pizarro death, what can I say) + I'd rather know a bit more about those to whom I'm sending boxes, dunno.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: seems like 9000x greater concern for their (indeed mirror-smooth, i nearly slipped on it) marble floor , than for working dc!!
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it ~always makes moarsense to physically send in a box, esp. if you have box already. costwise too.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Everytime we did this with the wheeled luggage, the WTC people wanked the same wank, but with the luggage we always did that in one shot and non-issue. Card works normally for normal doors.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: sorta why i dun even look at other than colo anymoar
diana_coman: so despite the lovely amd, I think I can't currently stomach its masters.
diana_coman: I suppose I'm so outside of their corporation worksheet that they just blink for 4 minutes and reset to next point on the checklist
asciilifeform: diana_coman: sounds like the typical 'leper's bell' of 'we do only what's in this here 3ring binder'
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Apparently they don't want wheels scuffing up the floors of the lobby, hence have to use service entrance
diana_coman: asciilifeform: while they were willing to talk/ask someone else to come and talk to this weird woman, they were utterly shocked at ~any request; to the point of 4min silence followed by a total change of subject
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what means 'add handcard door to card ?'
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it's still neato. wonder if they'd cut out impi, emplace raid, FG .
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Was instructed to ask Latecho to add the handcart door to my card to use the hand truck again. Going for all disks, all I can carry without wheels trip.
diana_coman: but no, they called 3 dudes to talk to me and still can't get over this outlandish idea that I do.not.want.to.make.account.with.them
lobbes: Add in the feedback cycle, digging into mpwp mysql guts, new additions to spec tacked on (here I would link to various documented pieces on blog, if I had a working one) and I don't come anywhere close to 5-hours. It will be serving Trilema, and it is needed to be correct in one go; no do-overs. My reputation's on the line here. Spot of work my foot!
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 15:54:16 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1942027 << this strikes me as utterly insane, for a spot of work that in my book counts to about 5 man-hours.
lobbes: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942586 << I anticipated this response, but not sure how you figure utterly insane. I'm not asciilifeform nor diana_coman for e.g.; I'm still pretty "green" at programming and need to research each design phase and thoroughly test my implementations as I go to make sure it is correct. Oftentimes discover "shit, I fucked up, need to redo this part". I.e. learning as I go
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-08 19:40:36 diana_coman: asciilifeform: I somehow think I might not be the only one valuing your seal; but anyway.
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942657 << fwiw in most cases re: hardware I'd value asciilifeform's seal more than I'd value my own
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942398 -neah, Reading near London; there are a few data centers right next door, it's a rather active area in this sense.
asciilifeform: to drive a coupla km once in a leap year is perhaps tolerable.
diana_coman: myeah but a bit too many potentially + having to get to it is yet another thing on top of a huge pile
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 16:09:51 asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: one simple pill is to colo a kvm. but obv. 1) costs 2) someone has to agree to operate.
asciilifeform: ( in re such things as this )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if yer box is in a place you can potentially physically get to -- the reqs for the innkeeper are much looser potentially
diana_coman: but yes otherwise and moreover, it's no diversity if I don't go with moldavians but I go with Bucharest; 0 diversity in that really
asciilifeform: for 'expendable' parking spot, almost anyffin is worth a test, imho
diana_coman: ie it's one thing if you look at it to make an isp and another if not
asciilifeform: hell i'm even considering the swamp an' digging for offerings there.
diana_coman: it *is* poor site; but a. still better than no site b. for diversity/maybe finding some actual people it may still work
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-04 23:32:29 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: back in '17 when dulap-I crater was still smoking , asciilifeform wanted to try ro . but mp_en_viaje said that it was poor site, and i'm inclined to think that he had good reason to say this.