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mats: i figured i'd spare log readers from my blathering. and pete_dushenski's background chirping. ☟︎
mats: so in the future i think i'll be taking these discussions to PM, if this is something you'd be interested in, ascii_field
ascii_field: but now i have to UNDERSTAND HOW THEY WORK
punkman: mats, probably above my paygrade, but I'll have a look at them
ascii_field: and the ultimate litmus test for whether a proposed security mechanism is usgistic: 'does this item INCREASE - or DECREASE - the amount of complexity present in the system, for which i must defer to someone's authority to determine whether it does what was promised ?'
ascii_field: i ~like~ the idea of 'this quicksort will provably not overstep its bounds.' but much better is ~this quicksort can as easily overstep its bounds as my car can start itself and drive to alaska'
ascii_field: to my shame, ~i~ habitually read these. ☟︎
ascii_field: understand, i have no objection to tools such as computerized theorem-proving, data flow analysis, etc. except in that these are put forward as ~substitutes for fits-in-head simplicity~.
mats: i read the logs sometimes.
punkman: mats: I'm all for langsec and chipsec and whatever other brand they come up with, but I don't see anyone getting anywhere
mats: i research what folks are doing to incrementally raise the cost of attack, because there is interesting work being done there, this is where the money is, and we are all living with various design decisions that can't be undone at low cost.
ascii_field: and yes, i guess, being concerned with the number of intellectual 'cpu cycles' needed to fully grasp the ~implementation~ of the language and the machine under it - makes me a t3rr0r1st11111
ascii_field: my other problem is that i have not yet found an implementation of ml language that fits-in-head.
ascii_field: mats: for instance, i like 'ml' (language.) but i will not close my eyes to the fact that garbage collector is a cross-process info leaker.
ascii_field: mats: i ~like~ functional programming, understand.
ascii_field: this is fundamentally an example of what i was talking about.
punkman: so what is the formal language when I grab random bytes off someone's HTTP? ☟︎
mats: i am generally interested in these things because i like knowing about whether a given abstraction kills particular techniques
ascii_field: mats: note that i did not say 'waste of time'
mats: well, if you ever decide to describe why 'langsec' et al. is a waste of time, i'd love to read it. you too, pete_dushenski.
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> usg has a very effective program for soaking them up << I'm pretty sure the push to get people into grad school rather than employment 2007-2011 was exactly this ☟︎
mats: then i suppose I'll conclude with disagreeing this is an unworthy area of research.
assbot: The Pussycat Dolls - When I Grow Up - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1ODpDR5 )
ascii_field: mats: i pointedly do not care whether or by whom you were (or like to be) bought
ascii_field: mats: and i was talking about hygiene.
ascii_field: mats: i don't know where you are posting from, but on my planet we recently saw astonishingly brazen clandestine techno-diddlatrons blown wide open.
assbot: Logged on 18-09-2015 15:14:51; pete_dushenski: mats: i remember one of the ignoble winners from a few years back having researched 'why do computer cables become tangled'
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-09-2015#1278557 <<< I still had one of these 5 yrs ago using it as a fileserver xD ☝︎
kakobrekla: http://i.imgur.com/taxG5ec.png
punkman: I got no clue
pete_dushenski: mats: i remember one of the ignoble winners from a few years back having researched 'why do computer cables become tangled' ☟︎
funkenstein_: A friend of mine was talking this project up, I thought it might be of interest here and didn't find it in the logs: http://saltlang.wordpress.com
Pierre_Rochard: now enjoying a sabbatical, learning C++ so I can finally ~understand the bitcoin blackbox
pete_dushenski: watch, i'll have a half-dozen spawn just to block out this idiot noise from 'economists'
pete_dushenski: i must not have enough to do in a day to find myself stooping to such levels
pete_dushenski: i'm apparently a sucker for punishment and noah serves it up on a silver platter
pete_dushenski: the sensitive spot is that i'm guilty of trying to make sense of his insanity
funkenstein_: I'm also trying to help straighten out which lines of reasoning can be fruitful and which are dead ends
pete_dushenski: for cereal, why do i do this to myself ? why read this garbage ?
funkenstein_: Yeah, well I relate to previous convos, sorry about that. How else can I improve it? ☟︎
punkman: funkenstein_: yes I'm talking about how you are making this point
funkenstein_: punkman, I agree. That was my point.
funkenstein_: what distro is that? i've never seen that screen
pete_dushenski: https://i.imgur.com/2ZECpM0.jpg << yup. 3rd from left. this, dear redditards and conference sluts, is what consensus looks like.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-09-2015#1278391 << heh. i'd actually like this as a footrest under my desk. ☝︎
mats: i don't get why people enjoy the online card game 'Hearthstone' ☟︎
assbot: Fredrick Brennan(HW) on Twitter: "Thank you Mr. Poettering and @kdeproject for making desktop Linux better for everyone I should have never doubted u http://t.co/Lwic5rJQw2" ... ( http://bit.ly/1KlrIMd )
cazalla: asked the missus if she could guess which 2 i picked.. she got 1 outta 2 (the brunette)
punkman: http://i.imgur.com/yDzCySF.jpg
cazalla: if i had too. 3rd from left too
shinohai: I agree with the blonde HeySteve ... good eye
shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/2ZECpM0.jpg <<< 1rst Annual #bicoin-assets White-Trash Beauty Competition. Vote now!
cazalla: i'd buy one and i'm not into that xe shit
cazalla: i guess all the women are concerned men will no longer need their fupas
cazalla: white suit, beard, this HAS to be a mircea_popescu class room! http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c7b_1442078659
mircea_popescu: i would say by and large the libertard mind understands it is an epiphenomenon in human history, and utterly doomed.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> http://i.imgur.com/P0GJvi1.png << scam rumour! << Oh, yet another Mayo Gendered anon shill
mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/P0GJvi1.png << scam rumour!
BingoBoingo: What I really wonder is why there are people in chan without a cheap surplus Ti-92
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: i bet you're right. we'll check one out together before you pull the us-chute
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I seriously think you'd enjoy the demolition derbies. Nothing but cars lesser than Saddam meeting the most nobel ends they can.
cazalla: BingoBoingo, spotted a dupa http://i.imgur.com/xs29Qrt.jpg
pete_dushenski: there was a blue jays player i had the same suspicion about a few years back. turns out, total goy.
pete_dushenski: oh EARNHARDT !! fuck i didn't know they were jooz
pete_dushenski: nah, i think this is a personal exception
pete_dushenski: i suspect i'm too distantly related from my cousins for that sort of thing
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I imagine you to be the sort of crazy jew to replace an 8 with a pair of sixes
pete_dushenski: http://ca.complex.com/sports/2013/12/mercedes-m156-v8-eulogy << written by kid whose writing career i launched
assbot: Logged on 18-09-2015 01:08:16; BingoBoingo: I as so fucking happy I won the Rand Paul bet
cazalla: pete_dushenski, tis a fake http://i.imgur.com/EqOzRGy.jpg or maybe original? or maybe not!
BingoBoingo: Fuck I was on the wrong path doing oild painting of Kim Jung Il on a train getting slaughtered by a heart
BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/p2I1EeS.jpg
mircea_popescu: or i guess s-f
cazalla: for some reason i always assumed fupa was gender specific despite knowing what it meant
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Originally idiots used it to refer to male FUPA (Fat Upper Pubic Area) which isn't gendered. So I created a better meaning for FUDA: Fat Usurping Dick Apex
cazalla: did you coin that meme BingoBoingo because i never heard of a fuda until today
mircea_popescu: a mile too wide* i mean.
BingoBoingo: <cazalla> dayum, was gonna say one for BingoBoingo but i think one of me instead http://i.imgur.com/smOdXoy.jpg << Oh Lordie
cazalla: dayum, was gonna say one for BingoBoingo but i think one of me instead http://i.imgur.com/smOdXoy.jpg
BingoBoingo: The more I read the more seriously awesome Tanzania sounds
BingoBoingo: Typical WaPo reader: "My wife doesn’t have a strong sex drive. I have always found sex to be awkward. I have a bit of a mental block—although I understand it on a biological level, I still don’t like the idea of sticking my body part inside another body." >> http://www.slate.com/articles/life/dear_prudence/2015/09/dear_prudence_my_friend_s_wife_stays_home_and_berates_him_while_he_works.html
BingoBoingo: They put out 5 BTC and only the BitBet bet had matched it. s.qntr was way up so I figured I'd price their 5 BTC
mircea_popescu: da fuck i care about slashdot.
mircea_popescu: i meant re the bet lol.
BingoBoingo: I as so fucking happy I won the Rand Paul bet ☟︎
BingoBoingo: I still do. Not as many people seem to read it as when MP saved BSDM, but it gets reads by virtue of not being as bad as other places you can find stories missed elsewhere
BingoBoingo: 24 Hours after the submission Qntra has made the front page of slashdot for the I forget whicheth time http://yro.slashdot.org/story/15/09/17/2215209/bitcoin-trader-agrees-to-work-for-police-in-plea-agreement
assbot: Logged on 17-09-2015 03:05:37; BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Mentally I pronounce it Cunt-Raw
nubbins`: "your honour, my client had a forgotten deal. i move to dismiss"
assbot: Logged on 15-09-2015 23:23:53; punkman: I saw a dog steal an unopened bag of cheetos while I was buying some tobacco from a kiosk couple days ago. guy inside shrugs "what am I gonna do, chase the fucking mutt". I wonder if some bum trained the dog, it was wearing a length of string as a collar.
gernika: the line you quote adds to the eerie similarity to the sillyconvalley vibe I detected though.
gernika: I missed that part - but my favorite was the discussion of how much people of various races were worth.
punkman: I think the best moment was when she says "I don't know if it's just me pretending or if everyone is"
ascii_field: and i've lost what respect i had remaining for the publisher.
mircea_popescu: just as long as i stick to aiming to scatter self around, i will be fine.
mircea_popescu: just like failure works in humans : i can't fly, but i also didn't declare i aim to be a bird.
mircea_popescu: but i know why, now. there IS such a thing as a failed state.
jurov: yes, the argument flied off in bad direction. i found the recommendation(to check for loaded dice or cards) hilarious in that context
mircea_popescu: i dunno. i know i ran the numbers at some point, loled and forgot about it.
jurov: why weird. coinbr had a ddos, so I just fired beefier instance to filter the crud that made through load balancer