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rbenzaquen: I did not send 30BTC, I don'
t know to where.
rbenzaquen: Couldn'
t decode the reply from MPEx, perhaps you didn'
t sign the key? try running
rbenzaquen: mircea_popescu: great, I'll do that now. something I don'
t understand, how you co-relate your gpg public key with BTC public key?
mircea_popescu: we're not discussing any volume yet, haven'
t gotten to that
mircea_popescu: well, if beneficiary fails to state you don'
t deliver.
mircea_popescu: or more like DAT ? you don'
t clear customs/taxes do you
thestringpuller: now that i think of it, it wouldn'
t really matter. if the cocoa comes staright from the distributor, then there is no reason to use am exchange except for pricing
mircea_popescu: most people who'd be competent enough to do it either don'
t want it because it'd likely be low volume to start or legal concerns
thestringpuller: what if the personor entity acting as the clearing house had, access to the physical asset via normal channels, fiat on hand to pay for said asset, and btc's on hand. in theory couldn'
t he sign a pgp contract granting ownership to future holders upon settlement?
mircea_popescu: actually, this is why mpex doesn'
t allow instacancellation of orders :)
EskimoBob: pushing trades to other exchanges can'
t be that hard or a resource hog
mircea_popescu: haha! i got assbot and all the split people can'
t see it.
Ukto: although I was planning to avoid buying shares on my own exchange, I really don'
t see much of a problem with it
mircea_popescu: i don'
t need 37 to succeed and i specifically do not need some nobody giving it to me.
lyspooner: yes, that incremental blockheader is a very beautiful thing. although the block reward halving party wasn'
t as exciting as a new years countdown
smickles: Diablo-D3: because people shouldn'
t actually buy those mining contracts, the fact that there is a market for that shit baffles me
Diablo-D3: diff can'
t go above 115x what it is now with btc at 13.50
jcpham: don'
t make me read up in the buffer
Namjies: Well multiple domain isn'
t hard. Multiple servers shouldn'
t be too much hassle either with current cloud/cluster services and virtualization capabilities.
mircea_popescu: and servers. i don'
t mean mirror it, i mean actually run it.
Namjies: I still disapprove of MPEx not having it's own domain however. Especially because of the dtng board kept on same domain. Although I don'
t mind it, I know many people with large capital and qualified to participate will be repulsed by that fact. If you recall stating some were more sensitive on the topic in other cultures, like in America, or something to that effect.
mircea_popescu: in other words, my core mission still is to equip btc with the weaponry it needs to win the war with fiat. this hasn'
t and won'
t change.
mircea_popescu: mpex would never list some asset making 3 btc a month, let alone something as dubious as those were. but it doesn'
t have to not list it :
Namjies: Ah. But isn'
t keeping the drama out basically coming out to avoiding certain kind of issued shares like the ones that were allowed on GLBSE? Not the size of investments?
mircea_popescu: and also for the sake of keeping them rare. idiots tend to self-select as they can'
t cope with it.
Namjies: Hmm, so we don'
t really disagree. But at first what you say always seem to point to that your beliefs revolves around an "all for myself" basis where no help/cooperation of any sort is acceptable (and similar with anything else, always seem like an extreme "never".) When in fact you either don'
t agree with how it's done or how it should be applied or when it's acceptable.
midnightmagic: If my Dad hadn'
t the foresight to insist I keep my BBQ as far away from the house, I would be homeless right now.
midnightmagic: For a long time I just tried to convince them of a better way to think. That doesn'
t work, basically ever. The last decade or so I've been trying to refine civil human compassion.
Namjies: It is often beneficial to help kins if they don'
t live from your help.
mircea_popescu: Namjies i don'
t propose that. i am just pointing out the inconsistency involved.
midnightmagic: They are only not citizens insofar as they can'
t vote and aren'
t held responsible for their own actions.
mircea_popescu: Namjies me either, but the fact remains once you strip humans of some rights you can'
t pretend they're still humans.
Namjies: Hmm, well I don'
t approve of persons having sovereignty over life and death of any human being, even kids.
mircea_popescu: Namjies yes, if you don'
t recognise them some rights then they're slaves.
Namjies: It's not like you would believe the state can choose who can or cannot drink? That doesn'
t sound like you.
Bugpowder: Well. I gotta sleep. I have put some trial contracts out for sale. If they don'
t sell by next Weds, I wonder if potential buyers will understand that the contract is not an auto loss for them at my ask.
mircea_popescu: if they can'
t legally have a beer, then don'
t tell me they're people.
Namjies: Yes, but if the government discharge a kid from the public system and returns it to it's parents... Wouldn'
t we consider that parents chose to be responsible? If they can'
t beat the life out of it/put it in a grinder, they have to do something with it.
mircea_popescu: Namjies no, we couldn'
t. having a kid is NOT a contract with the state.
Namjies: How they act. They can'
t control his brain as far as I'm aware.
Namjies: They can'
t decide how they act.
mircea_popescu: Well parents can'
t decide for their children how to << whart ?! why not ?
Namjies: Well parents can'
t decide for their children how to act and neither can a kid do for his parent. Left out to the means of parents, kids who would be productive with proper education are left out. If we provide but exclude undeserving kids, but the parent are productive, they're left with a kid to provide for, which would also keep them away from work.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder they don'
t. in case of margins overrun the contracts are awarded proportionally.
mircea_popescu: i don'
t mind the experience, really, but it's unconscionable to pretend like it didn'
t happen.
mircea_popescu: but you know, just because something is impossible to do (large state) doesn'
t mean you should try anyway
Namjies: I was about to say, don'
t it all boil down to what priorities each individual has and what they are consequently willing or not willing to pay/be taxed for?
Namjies: I'm all for government having certain responsibilities. Others don'
t or want different responsibilities.
mircea_popescu: kids that aren'
t beaten enough develop this very superficial "we know shit" conviction, and then the result is btctalk lending & usagi financial expertise.
mircea_popescu: as in, music doesn'
t suck today, it's just i have divergent tastes to the world.
bonafide: the problem is now... even the people who aren'
t smart have money
Namjies: Hmm, such a thing would be impossible. We couldn'
t have a standard procedure to determine the desrving ones if each member of the society wanted that they personally approve of said person.
mircea_popescu: but don'
t assume he is for me and expect i give you the money.
Namjies: Stupid people don'
t all breed retards and rich people don'
t all breed bright individuals.
Namjies: I don'
t see why we should exclude good individuals on behalf their parents are retarded/bad.
bonafide: couldn'
t have said it better myself
Namjies: Right... so instead of helping the kid into society, exclude it because his parent sucks and don'
t care.
Namjies: So what? If they can'
t afford it, don'
t educate them?
Namjies: Hmm... that sounds somewhat cliche. I don'
t see many people acting that way. I might be blind tho.
mircea_popescu: because they don'
t risk anything. goes to school, doesn'
t learn, no big deal
Namjies: Consider the fee a donation. (A decadent ~1/3 of a cent. Don'
t spend it all in one go!)
bonafide: an EMP can take out all of btc.. can'
t take out gold
mircea_popescu: it's like a stupid bitch that marries some rich dude, won'
t cook, he tells her she either gets with the programme or gets lost
mircea_popescu: cause that'd indeed be mm-ing but so far haven'
t seen it
mircea_popescu: i don'
t even think it's mm-ing per se, i think people just threw some bids up
pigeons: i still can'
t believe you hire someone to do your trolling for you
plate: fiat.. isn'
t it all fiat?
Bugpowder: plate I'm currently offering Gold, Nasdaq100 and Crude for sale on MPEX, but I haven'
t implemented a true market maker position yet
smickles: Bugpowder: you don'
t like scraping btc prices from mtgox/bitcoincharts?
Diablo-D3: "Don'
t worry, I was trained by special ops." "I don'
t care if you were trained by ninjas, my mother has eyes in the back of YOUR head"
dub: Diablo-D3: I don'
t know who else here lives with his mom and gives property investign advice
mircea_popescu: <Namjies> Cause all the money used to buy everything is the property of the government to start with so why wouldn'
t it own everything bought with it? << bullshit.
Namjies: Cause all the money used to buy everything is the property of the government to start with so why wouldn'
t it own everything bought with it?
jcpham: i don'
t see how it works in ripple though
jcpham: i don'
t get it either because loaning people money has already burned me