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mircea_popescu: the difference being that the tangible you can turn back to cash whenever you want to ; whereas the intangible you gotta wait for it to decide on your own.
mircea_popescu: well, if you cash your paycheck and don't spend it, it's cash. if you spend it to buy a pair of shoes, you have a tangible asset. if you spend it to buy a round for all your friends, it's goodwill.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re glue, we'll be able to run a test server for it anyway.
mircea_popescu: only in this context the decision to "add it" or "not add it" can be said to make any sort of fucking sense.
mircea_popescu: in this case : here is the security loss from adding a 13th step to the 12 step scheme : 79. here is the security loss from not adding it, because rng starvation : 45.
mircea_popescu: i didn't mean it that way. i meant, all items must be reduced to TWO scalars.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in order for management to make decisions, all items must be put in the form a > b.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm more concenred about obviously-not-working in practice. same principle as phuctor, really.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no i'm not discussing here "a way to community consensus". the question is quite specific : given 12 passes, tell me how much strength i lose adding a 13th.
mircea_popescu: (a large part of this project is me trying to field-evaluate crypto schemes in the first place)
mircea_popescu: anyway because messages are highly structured to begin with, there's a whole lotta attacking surface available.
mircea_popescu: if he decyphers the 12th in a 12pass scheme he gets 1 message.
mircea_popescu: so it's impossible to make a rational decision here, from both ends. win-win, as they say.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, it's ok that there isn't : there ALSO isn't a way to evaluate strength loss due to "rng" starvation.
mircea_popescu: basic cryptoquestion i do not expect an answer to : is there a way to evaluate strength loss by hash pass in a scheme where otp is hashed and the hash used as next pass otp, for N passes of this ?
mircea_popescu: that part is not hard : a) you get a client ; b) you write it a drop-in wrapper for the messaging - this should be one function/class + the keygen. the same class should be used by server the same way, which we'll do the integration of.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so im thinking here, without a byte/sec sort of idea of what messaging is liable to look like, we can't really spec anything anyway.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i'm also not entirely certain a symmetric cypher or perhaps hash-and-rehash scheme won';t be better.
mircea_popescu: currently the "what happens past key generation" and "there's an otp" part is left pretty loophole-y
mircea_popescu: hm. im guessing we'll get together with diana_coman and write a spec ? unless you want to propose one ?
mircea_popescu: well... i guess specifics of this will be tied to specifics of that.
mircea_popescu: one of the best parts of ba this time of years is the invasion of freesia. wunderbar.
mircea_popescu: fucking spanish imperative i never get it right. escribe y toma, is it shinohai ?
mircea_popescu: ok, escribir b68fe7aa sobre sus tetas y tome una photo. como lost otras chicas.
mircea_popescu: (cigna, for the noobs, is the usg dept of "insurance" human records)
mircea_popescu: totally, if it's by invitation only i'll feel sooo fucking special.
mircea_popescu: "if you're the sort of guy who almost escaped the homeshitland, wouldn't you like to register in a cigna-powered "community of trust" ????"
mircea_popescu: which is the correct strategic choice, once the opponent has demonstrated the ability to behead your "academic" assets, zerg him with the academic aspie assets. they surely got the "man"-hours anyway.
mircea_popescu: yes, but socialist mind is affraid of killing, for reasons.
mircea_popescu: and the various noise groups are both incapable mentally of using a wot and actually very affraid of locking out newbies because they perceive an (wholly hallucinated, but w/e, they're immersed in socialist ideology) existential threat : "they'll die without noobies"
mircea_popescu: anyway. it's altogether unclear how on earth one will wipe them this time. intelligently they're no longer using a gavin, but ~an anon hydra.
mircea_popescu: no it's not gavin coin, because old wedding picture was associated to random string! it's jeff rubin now!
mircea_popescu: but yes, having the "fork" nonsense defeated, and the "we'll promote a shitcoin" defeated leaves the usg.lizzards ... one option.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform more interesting, "who's this suddenly very active jeremy rubin character"
mircea_popescu: nowadays a rather banal observation, but i guess not quite as crystallized in 2012.
mircea_popescu: seems to be the case that for as long as you interact with idiots, what you do doesn't really matter all that much.
mircea_popescu: considering a large part of the historical beef with tardstalk was over mismanagement of shitposting rights for idiots, the adventure of r/bitcoin is not particularly encouraging.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is the special preserve r/btc where the idiots went once theymos took away their shitposting rights in r/bitcoin
mircea_popescu: this is like when you keep waking up in bed with ugly women.
mircea_popescu: apparently r/btc exists to collect the various idiots who never heard of obama and think the russians invaded atlanta, georgia like a decade ago.