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nyRednek: iz, well, as of 2010 it wasn'
t, let me check
mircea_popescu: and isn'
t dhs the dept of welfare i mean human services ?
smickles: nyRednek: so my view of it from that perspective is that you only have privacy in so much as the state isn'
t allowed to do things why render your ownership of property meaningless
smickles: nyRednek: that's privacy extending from property rights tho, isn'
t it?
jcpham: you don'
t have to thank me though
nyRednek: hell, the 1783 treaty of paris didn'
t fit in 50 pages
nyRednek: hell, definitions don'
t fit in 50 pages
smickles: dub: he claimed that I had a tail light out, it wasn'
t true, so he gave me an 'unwritten warning'
nyRednek: smickles, the best vague answer, "i don'
t know what you're talking about, officer"
smickles: now i'm spooked by the last time I was pulled over, and didn'
t say a wort to the cop
nyRednek: smickles, also, in indiana, cops don'
t have to knock and announce before executing a search warrant
dub: this is why we don'
t live in 'murica
smickles: the bs is they say it's not covered by the 5th b/c he wasn'
t under arrest YET
nyRednek: Bugpowder_, new york jurors don'
t have as much reasonable doubt as one should, tbh
smickles: you don'
t answer, your're a murder
Bugpowder_: most people don'
t want to take the risk
mod6: i don'
t know what the problem was there
mod6: yeah, everything that happened wasn'
t really allowed by the contract
mircea_popescu: mod6 basically he decided he'll do something that couldn'
t be done contractually
mircea_popescu: you make a company, it's yours. shareholders can'
t kick you out. you can'
t "sell" your interest.
mircea_popescu: smickles no. that's the entire idea of mpex. that you can'
t just pass things around.
smickles: mircea_popescu: couldn'
t the account priviges have been transferred?
smickles: the whole idea of using gpg with the wot revolved around contracts, if he gave his personal signing ability to someone else, i can'
t be sure that any contract I sign with that key has ever been "real"
mircea_popescu: i guess people just don'
t realise that's the absolute limit of what you can'
t do.
smickles: Namworld, arij i'd like you know that I don'
t fault you guys for using the keys tho
mircea_popescu: smickles i presume cause nobody wants to do business with them anymore because nobody's sure if they have or haven'
t backdoored
smickles: why don'
t they just keep doing business
smickles: nyRednek: i'm looking thru it again, but that doesn'
t make it illegal to promote gambling
nyRednek: mircea_popescu, it doesn'
t work that way here
mircea_popescu: it wouldn'
t surprise me if the das involved end up in jail.
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr not rly. but you won'
t go anywhere. the model works like this because it's sound like this.
nyRednek: smickles, doesn'
t matter if the online gambling is legal in jurisdiction that it is based in
nyRednek: smickles, doesn'
t matter where the company is based
smickles: really? satoshidice isn'
t a 'merican company?
Bugpowder: Luke-Jr I wouldn'
t say inevitable. but definitely possible
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr i don'
t mean the imaginary bitcoin you jack off to.
Luke-Jr: Bugpowder: just because it's in a contract doesn'
t make it legal
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder i imagine he can'
t now, seeing how he wasn'
t there at the time and prolly doesn'
t have a copy.
mircea_popescu: nyRednek i don'
t think you're at all qualified to discuss the topic.
nyRednek: mircea_popescu, well, what i just saw described is securities fraud...one wouldn'
t need to find a serpentine lawyer to deal with such
mircea_popescu: in the unwarranted hope i'll settle. which i won'
t, so that's moot.
Bugpowder: well they don'
t provide a better payout
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: just because you can get away with something, doesn'
t mean you should do it.
Luke-Jr: "I'll rob a bank. If they don'
t like it, they can sue."
mircea_popescu: but seriously, i'm all for it, i don'
t see why this needs the drama attached.
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: I know they don'
t care about technicalities
mircea_popescu: for that matter, it was clear the bonds won'
t be "upgrading", either, and this long before the glbse implosion.
mircea_popescu: i don'
t care what extra performance he needs, for whatever reason.
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr not like this wasn'
t discussed to the end about two months ago.
Bugpowder: 1 or 2 big whales made up most of the betting volume last month, they haven'
t been seen seriously betting since the second.
Luke-Jr: EskimoBob: gigavps wasn'
t behind the mpex "stock" IIRC
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder_ course, value investing theory says that doesn'
t matter if you're liquid
nyRednek: jurov, stock price is irrelevant to me, btw...i'm looking for divident percentage...and i can'
t really afford to play with pepsico and ge atm
jurov: nyRednek: but now doesn'
t look like the best time to buy s.dice
jcpham: i wouldn'
t go out of my way to make introductions with strangers if i thought he was ripping people off
nyRednek: jcpham, so if i buy stuff, i'll probably go the brokerage route...i can'
t make heads or tails of the main site
dub: don'
t shills generally get paid, hint hint mircea_popescu
jcpham: don'
t get me wrong i'd like a pretty mpex
Bugpowder_: Still haven'
t got all the shares back I dumped
nyRednek: jcpham, hence the problem...that brokerage shouldn'
t be needed for a professional-looking site
mircea_popescu: but i don'
t think it's really the exchange's job to do that sort of filtering.
mircea_popescu: Buglouse in april there wasn;
t someone like mpex to create a downmarket for the half dozen or so smaller exchanges
nyRednek: mircea_popescu, either way, if the asset was lagging in that manner, it doesn'
t seem like a sound investment
mircea_popescu: if you don'
t, there's always going to be this lead-up string. first it misses X. then a little more. then a little more still.
Bugpowder: started thinking... hmm... isn'
t this a company run by a 22 year old
jcpham: this isn'
t te real world
mircea_popescu: jurov i don'
t imagine they really groked the complexities of running a public company going in
gigavps: dub i wouldn'
t give micon so much credit
Namworld: Plus since everyone using MPEx already use gpg, signing to confirm their key shouldn'
t be a problem either
jcpham: It isn'
t his agreement to honor
Namworld: I don'
t see why everyone would be fucked... or how halting trades would change anything.
jcpham: i haven'
t read the contract in many months
Namworld: I can'
t import installed modules on windows...
Namworld: damn python gpg doesn'
t want to install... wtf
Namworld: I can'
t get python gpg specifically. Says python installation is not found in registry
Namworld: argh, I can'
t get that damn thing ported to windows or python on windows either
Azelphur: didn'
t know the library supported that :D
jurov: Bugpowder, didn'
t you say 5BTC?
Bugpowder: jurov fixed pympex so I don'
t do that again
jurov: so you don'
t have to type it every time
Schadenfreude: So people buy up everything below a certain price and sell for an inflated price since nobody can'
t undercut them? This is better than video games
pigeons: well, i don'
t think that's likely any time soon ;)
Namworld: My copartners weren'
t too enthusiastic. I managed to convince them on a new contract, but we're real turtles