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asciilifeform: i walk out for half hour and they pull the bloody wings off, lol.
asciilifeform bbl, dinner is served.
asciilifeform: salt mine, eh.
asciilifeform: vs what sort of view
asciilifeform: alice_: what sort of programming ?
asciilifeform: and whatever, maybe alice_ identifies as an old rusted kriegsmarine anchor in scapa flow, scotland.
asciilifeform: trinque: i have nfi what this is.
asciilifeform: alice_: describe, approximately, what is a you. (e.g., butcher, baker, oil prospector, bankrupt lisp programmer, etc) ?
asciilifeform: 'i showed you mine, show me yours!'
asciilifeform: trinque: show ?
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/ApHv4 << ?
asciilifeform: trinque: eh wat?
asciilifeform: but we know how to read...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu and alice_ hasn't told us about cultivating multiple personalities yet !!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu wins that one.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think this was sent to us as gift from ze godz per this morning's thread.
asciilifeform: if i have to press 2 keys, it is 2 keys long.
asciilifeform: how does it violate ?
asciilifeform: as per grahm's original anaphorics system
asciilifeform: what's wrong with 'it' ?
asciilifeform: for what.
asciilifeform: alpha no.
asciilifeform: lambda yes
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=861 << proper chords are 1handed.
asciilifeform: i know what is a chord.
asciilifeform: what then.
asciilifeform: what if my right hand is tired.
asciilifeform: not even shift-meta etc, but chord!?
asciilifeform: alice_: chord?!
asciilifeform: lel
asciilifeform: or wait.
asciilifeform then notices mirror.
asciilifeform sees odd leg count, EGGOGs
asciilifeform: alice_: where do you keep the lambda on your physical kbd ?
asciilifeform: manned, so to speak, on both ends.
asciilifeform: there was a box for a head at the outlet.
asciilifeform: i cannot help but think of it now.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didntcha post a photo of an invertible toilet once?
asciilifeform: did his modem run out of petrol or wut.
asciilifeform: eh.
asciilifeform: who had the honour of being suspected of being gabriel_laddel-in-his-cups
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: meet alice_ .
asciilifeform: trinque: how we gonna know what it is if we don't plant it in agar.
asciilifeform: trinque: let it live
asciilifeform: !!up alice_
asciilifeform: !!up gabriel_laddel
asciilifeform: !!up alice_
asciilifeform: jupiter?
asciilifeform: dunno where you got yours, alice_ .
asciilifeform: my bash doesn't have a lambda.
asciilifeform: in ~what~ ??
asciilifeform: in what?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: as opposed to well-spent on other missions?
asciilifeform: alice_: https://github.com/alice0meta/scratch/blob/master/regex_set.ζ << what, then, is this?
asciilifeform: 'lucid' ?
asciilifeform: alice_: apl, 'j', 'k' aficionado?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-07#1535582 << what am i looking at here? ☝︎
asciilifeform: i'ma meat for a spell.
asciilifeform: entertain one another, dear guests.
asciilifeform: !!up boolcrap
asciilifeform: !!up alice_
asciilifeform brb, meat
asciilifeform: i could live the rest of my life without infix, quite happily.
asciilifeform: what's so great about infix.
asciilifeform: lel boolcrap , what have you even been doing all of this time.
asciilifeform: and you ?
asciilifeform: megatonnes.
asciilifeform: alice_: ick nonhomoiconic syntax.
asciilifeform: Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein boolcrap .
asciilifeform: eh?
asciilifeform: hola señor boolcrap
asciilifeform: !!up boolcrap
asciilifeform: quite like what, elsewhere, a well-written compressor does.
asciilifeform: macro ~removes~ pattern. as in increasing the entropy (per, say, kolmogorov, or even chaitin's criterion) of the program.
asciilifeform: which is why we have macro.
asciilifeform: alice_: if i see a pattern, i write a macro and it vanishes.
asciilifeform: which is not a bad thing.
asciilifeform: http://www.rainmagazine.com/archive/2014/gatemaker << reads like ted nelson.
asciilifeform: but cannot make guarantee of result.
asciilifeform: i'ma read the thing anyway, because i am an 'entomologist'.
asciilifeform: http://library.uniteddiversity.coop/Ecological_Building/A_Pattern_Language.pdf << 1333337 w4r3z. but my impression is - claptrap.
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=401 << as described here.
asciilifeform: i see 'design patterns' as language bug.
asciilifeform: 'Christopher Alexander is Emeritus Professor of Architecture at the University of California, Berkeley, best known for his seminal works on architecture including A Pattern Language, Notes on the Synthesis of Form, and The Nature of Order, Volumes I-IV. He is the father of the Pattern Language movement in computer science, and A Pattern Language was perhaps the first complete book ever written in hypertext fashion.'
asciilifeform: maybe danielpbarron ?
asciilifeform: can't say that i have.
asciilifeform: ... hello ?
asciilifeform: there you are.
asciilifeform: !!up alice_
asciilifeform: $up alice_
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://wiki.tulpa.info/Official/FAQ << a (supposed) reader mailed this in. parody? or...
asciilifeform: ng yourself, and they’re fooling you. Nor will systemd be the end of it – it’s just the beginning, the setup for future changes.'
asciilifeform: 'Really, I think it’s too late for mainstream “Linux”. It’s gone. It’s done. Geeks of the world were easily fooled by a shiny new toy and a corporate propaganda campaign to match, without considering the engineering implications. You can still use a real (systemd-free) version of Linux, or move toward the BSDs, but if you stay with the easy-to-use, polished distros, you’re no longer really using Linux. You’re just fooli
asciilifeform: hoose to use corporate-maintained tools like OpenSSL, which are deeply compromised. Do you think the people responsible for HeartBleed were held accountable, and fundamental changes were made? Guess again. It’s simply ignored by most of Linux. (You’ll notice real UNIXes like OpenBSD did not ignore it and have begun serious changes. Yet even there, it took such a serious, obvious exploit for them to see the engineering problem.)'
asciilifeform: 'Remember Heartbleed? Don’t let that example escape your attention. OpenSSL is open, yet it is so large and poorly designed that it’s a dark mystery. Heartbleed was easily shown to be a deliberate hack, and was even deliberately coded to hide itself from tools that would otherwise have shown the leak. And it was sitting there in ‘open’ sight. Instead of using small, well-reviewed crypto libraries, corporate Linux developers c
asciilifeform: same fella still shouts into the wilderness, e.g., https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2015/06/13/openwashing-and-other-deceptions-in-linux/ ,
asciilifeform somehow missed.
asciilifeform: ( https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/04/08/julian-assange-debian-is-owned-by-the-nsa )
asciilifeform: litism, simply put. The 1%. ... It’s much like politics – one wants to throw out the lot of them and start from scratch with real people. I know for a fact I don’t want either of these people working on security-related code in MY OS. Get lost, permanently!'
asciilifeform: ' Anyone who doesn’t know what he knows or who doesn’t behave/speak in the conventional way these developers speak is merely a troll, not worthy to partake in a discussion among the priests. And in his view Henson is simply too big to fail, too big to be held accountable for his actions, in this or any case, because he is part of the crypto establishment. We see these same patterns in politics and banking for example – it’s e