125000+ entries in 3.17s
smickles: they bother me when they are there, more than when they arn'
t DeadWeasel_: it doesn'
t seem so, just kinda scary. If I did so, I'd have to wager at least half my savings. as you can guess by the requirements, that is very small.
dub: my
t, v, c, h and possibly other keys don'
t work in outlook
DeadWeasel_: bitcoin-bots banned me for somereason. only connected once, didn'
t say anything. weird.
DeadWeasel_: i have no idea, haven'
t used IRC in 7 years, just got back in for bitcoin
assbot: Aren'
t those tins of tobacco right there behind you?
assbot: Hell, ain'
t we about more fucked than a whore at closin' time, huh?
Ukto: its been over a decade since i dod stock market stuffs.. if i have $10k in an eTrade account or w/e, and and put up a bid for a total of $10k on something that sits on the books, I can'
t just place another bid p to $10k for another asset, right?
mircea_popescu: it seems there can'
t be someone who gets it and doesn'
t care.
mircea_popescu: the curse of bitcoin : it can'
t get any coverage unless it's either a) completely clueless or else b) incredibly fanboish
Bugpowder_: I guess I just wish it wouldn'
t charge me for the deposit until the created contracts sold.
Bugpowder_: So I am curious. What is the rationale for having the collateral requirements so high for split orders. Since one side is a zero if the other side goes up, shouldn'
t a reasonable deposit for 50 calls and ~50 puts be 50BTC instead of 100BTC?
mircea_popescu: i don'
t see that any of that pertains to credit derivatives tho.
awkorama: mircea_popescu: I already kind of did, is there anything that you don'
t understand from the conversation that followed my initial question ?
jurov: they cite your article "The Reason Why Bitcoin Securities Can'
t be regulated by the SEC"
Bugpowder: why u don'
t need Inf colateral for the puts is not explained
jurov: i mean the reasoning behind that isn'
t there
awkorama: meaning, if I lend someone 100BTC today and tommorow I don'
t feel like having such big exposure to him anymore, I can just insure some part of that debt
jurov: one can'
t just transplant real life financials here, just reinvent them. I think MPOE was so successful cause it is basically short-term. It loans every month anew.
jurov: mircea already did experiment with CDOs, and it didn'
t go well exactly cause of this
jurov: we don'
t have much personal info between us
DeadWeasel: i loathe things I don'
t understand. Credit Default Swaps are one of those things (there are many).
awkorama: and I don'
t know what the difference would be, trading CDS's on public corporation (e.g. IBM) or on S.DICE.. same thing really
awkorama: well they wouldn'
t be if there was protection to buy
Bugpowder: and the bot hasn'
t yet caught up to the rise in price.
assbot: Aren'
t those tins of tobacco right there behind you?
smickles: i don'
t think so, i had to use XXX
smickles: oh don'
t get me wrong, it's a good 2 cents, and I knew it before you said it
smickles: but listen, the thing isn'
t optimized, there's room for improvement in many areas and I know it
mircea_popescu: but listen. what has materially changed from a tick to the next to make another increment worth buying, when it wasn'
t before ?
smickles: and they're hard limits that I can'
t do much about right now
mircea_popescu: i don'
t get this tho, why get 3 on this tick and 3 on the next tick
jurov: if you don'
t pass -l parameter it logs to ./mpex.log
jurov: yes, it works as usual it just won'
t output anything to log file if you pass -l -
mod6: jcpham: you can'
t ever be too paranoid
smickles: and the tucson police are awesome, I don'
t hardly ever see them, so i think there arn'
t many of them 'per capita'.
smickles: mod6: actually, going out wouldn'
t set it off
mod6: that's some kinda security, be glad you didn'
t have a fire and have to use the window ;)
smickles: apple is encrypted to the point that it doesn'
t matter if you password it
mod6: smickles: apple is well, what it is i guess. but they pulled their bitcoin related apps didn'
t they?!
evoorhees: maybe it's good that the avg govt worker doesn'
t know how to use this stuff
smickles: how did he get this thing registered, if he can'
t auth now?
jcpham: i don'
t mean to be a dick, i really don'
t evoorhees: yeah but you don'
t need to be pasting and calling up commands and going through fifteen steps to use bitcoin
mircea_popescu: smickles any idea why pyumpex doesn'
t work in py 3.3 btw ?
gribble: Error: Could not find a pending authentication request from your hostmask. Either it expired, or you changed hostmask, or you haven'
t made one.
jcpham: but they don'
t have a clue what to do
jcpham: well let's say eric's pc is exploited and the people don'
t know how to use mpex
jcpham: i wouldn'
t want someone to be impersonating him
evoorhees: can'
t bloody copy text from the cmd prompt
smickles: and it's not returning nothing b/c it would've printed "couldn'
t decode <bla bla bla>
mod6: doesn'
t it just work like: mpex.py "STAT"
smickles: that warning means that the data from mpex wasn'
t signed by mpex
smickles: mircea_popescu: i've never done that sort of thing, the mac machine i have access too is too old and depreciated, and the windows macine i have access to is annoyingly slow and I don'
t want to use it.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder not afaik. but i still don'
t see it's an idea :p
mircea_popescu: this one is self limiting, as price goes up the sorts of ppl who'd like to play can'
t anymore.
mircea_popescu: can'
t do that sorta thing, cause site op can just put 1k in and whoop.
evoorhees: silly fool doesn'
t realize a ddos against SD doesn'
t work
jurov: oh, wasn'
t it 24 hours?
mircea_popescu: I'm calling it now and you can count on this : When everything Bitcoin related will go big, Mircea, MPEX and Satoshi Dice won'
t. Stop worrying , it is a non-issue.
Schadenfreude: though really, aslong as upto 80% of people's income are being taxed away under various pretenses, where that money goes to isn'
t that important
gribble: Error: Something in there wasn'
t a valid number.
mircea_popescu: people don'
t give a shit about religions any more than they give a shit about all the rest of the meaningless drivel they use to complain about.
mircea_popescu: apparently it wasn'
t exactly the film, now was it, seeing how if anyone ever gave a shit there'd be much better films to be had.
StarenseN: because the adresses and algorithm linked doesn'
t need a front-end website
mircea_popescu: as i always say, options mm-ing is the only business in the world where if you don'
t have customers you're depressed and if you do have them you're worried.
mircea_popescu: you know i've not met a girl that didn'
t in what, 20 years by now.
Bugpowder: I didn'
t realize how easy it would be
mircea_popescu: i'll bet you dollars to rials that 99.x% of all the currently active smartasses can'
t actually trade with their own head.
mircea_popescu: and then discovers that a) mpex already owns it and b) it doesn'
t really allow hft
mircea_popescu: what i don'
t understand is : were you underwater till dec ?
mircea_popescu: (the 6k that doesn'
t go to shareholders in mpoe's case as cash is in fact going to them as security : unlike s.dice, s.mpoe can'
t make a loss)