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mjr_: management fee...i haven't researched, and i don't know
mircea_popescu: well, if they don't manage to buy on mpex in time the demand on the other venue may push prices up
mjr_: you report havelocks but you can't fill their orders can you? or is that how it works...
mjr_: so i don't know if i want my bot going up against yours lol
mjr_: yes, but when you conflate "options" with S.DICE it isn't fair
mjr_: yeah i guess since usually you don't clear immediately
smickles: i've facilitated shorts for people where I don't transfer the shares too, usually because they don't have mpex or broker accounts
jurov: Namworld, difficulty is weekly average and doesn't vary so much. the luck does apply, still
mjr_: but i really don't konw
mircea_popescu: im sorry i didn't take more bets on network diff last year.
mircea_popescu: i tell ye... these asics aren't working as advertised.
mircea_popescu: jurov i don't get it, why borrow shares if you have shares ?!
Namworld: what if the other party doesn't return the shares?
mjr_: and i don't think the fees are very high
mjr_: mine doesn't yet
jurov: and i didn't looked on angular
mjr_: yeah i figured it'd be easiest to use web so i wouldn't have to actually create charts in a desktop app
mjr_: my app wasn't performance oriented but rather i wanted the easy UI admin from django
Lyspooner: fuck is cool. That guy ain't. Shhhhiiitttt. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckfBGdZoR_0
mjr_: didn't think so
mjr_: not sure about execution time etc, but i don't think i need to whip out the c++ yet, do I?
mjr_: i dn't care about 5 contracts so mucnh
jurov: maybe it got better since, but still they don't appear often in the ticker
mjr_: the volume is the part i haven't really figured out how to adjust for
mjr_: but, as long as they are not killer mistakes (don't let the machine manage more than you can risk), you can fix it and make it stronger
jurov: that wouldn't exactly be the problem. suppose it blows up when i'm not around
mjr_: couldn't you set a limit on order number through api?
mjr_: it doesn't seem like it is moving a ton, but of course, if i get filled on one end, i cancel orders and reassess
mjr_: it wasn't close to the next higher or lower price
jurov: i heard they can't afford 0.09 BTC/month
Namworld: Why aren't people using coinbr?
smickles: that chart ain't half bad Ukto_
jurov: mjr_ and coinbr api isn't planned in near future, sorry. i just concluded whole thing isn't ready
jurov: mjr_ lol there is a front runner on mpoe for long time...it doesn't even try to conceal itself
FabianB_: "It is perhaps worth nothing that various observers.." <-- i think there's a t too much in "nothing"
thestringpuller: hustling + getting laid don't go together
mircea_popescu: he prolly didn't ask.
mjr_: but since i don't have mpex yet i can't test it out
Bugpowder: mjr_ oh nevermind that script doesn't actually place trades, just provides info.
mjr_: so you don't need capital to buy
Namworld: Why can't all asset holders hang in here?
mircea_popescu: that doesn't work so good.
Namworld: If they had a cap higher than 0 for pirate stuff I don't quite see why they'd deserve holding even a bitcent...
mircea_popescu: if they did have caps for all their pirate stuff they wouldn't be quite as in the pits today
Namworld: I disbursed an extra coupon when I did good option trades. The guy didn't seem to know I was trading actively.
Namworld: and Bitcoins to top it. I wasn't expecting someone from the financial sector to find his way to my little thing.
mjr_: i don't
mjr_: i don't know about growth
mjr_: wasn't that number in btc
mircea_popescu: then again, 0.0 isn't totally off the table on those sorts of intervals either.
mircea_popescu: the funny thing is tho... i don't think .8 sort of insanity is TOTALLY off the table on a 1-2 year span
mjr_: but you can't jump in front unless you put small volume
mjr_: that is what i don't get
mjr_: but i can't afford registration yet
mjr_: i agree and i don't mind dealing with gpg and any other computer related thing
mircea_popescu: i think coinbr is more intended to help the people who want to trade on a website/don't want to handle computer guts
mjr_: well i mean, i wouldn't mind if he just passed through
mircea_popescu: ya but i don't think he's actually implemented an api
mjr_: that's whats weird...i don't see any gui for orders, but maybe they dynamically turn that on once funds arrive?
mjr_: yeah, i wasn't planning on those orders
mjr_: do they have an api? i signed up but i can't find anything
Namworld: I haven't played in month
Namworld: I probably didn't win anyway =P
mjr_: so i wasn't sure if i was calculating the spread correctly
mjr_: but can't find out how to do that on coinbr
mircea_popescu: Namworld i didn't mean you. i meant him. list on there just out of spite
Namworld: I don't
thestringpuller: Rockefella's aren't complaining...
thestringpuller: isn't that how business used to work?
fancypants: how does S.DICE and/or S.BBET decide when to pay dividend? I can't seem to find it or determine any sort of a pattern from the history
jurov: thestringpuller, the core of his argument isn't this
mircea_popescu: something like that. better than paper wallet cause well... you can't read it
mjr_: doesn't even show all of that, weirdly enough it works in IE so maybe issues on my end
mjr_: weirdly enough i can't right click on the area where the chart would be
mjr_: but if i close the inspect element, it doesn't load
jurov: live.coinbr uses vanilla google charts ... can't believe google can't make its own shit work right
mircea_popescu: why doesn't it have mpex data ?
mjr_: i think there is some image which doesn't load and it blocks the actual symbols
mjr_: ok maybe a silly question but i don't think it was in the faq (i'll double check) is there a way to see level II info for the stocks?
mjr_: especially if the market doesn't seem to want to price them in
evoorhees: yeah I don't know why people would wait to buy until after the dividend lol
maximian: amateurs who don't get the whole dividends thing?
mod6: I've never quite understood why people feel so but hurt about the website. I mean, its really just a formality. It doesn't even need a website! lol
mircea_popescu: but do they trade x.idiff ? no they don't.
mod6: pizzaman1337: yup, i've implemented a way... i started off trying to do some other ways, like a keystore, etc.. but that didn't work out.
mircea_popescu: dude if you don't launch soon ima start sending escorts to your door at like 2am
smickles: hmm, i don't recall that article being much about race
mircea_popescu: <jurov> smickles, not really. that would be akin to city transportation not giving a fuck about security of chip cards << which they don't.
JohnGalt49ers: you don't need to rely on confirmations when your coins are stored at an exchange
mircea_popescu: mjr_ yes. it mostly consists of my pr pointing out it doesn't work and people glazingvoer.
mjr_: and obviously maybe it can't be applied to everything
mircea_popescu: i didn't get that last q.
mircea_popescu: but i don't see many people bothering, no. there's no benefit
mjr_: well that is what i meant...what if he doesn't pass on the messsage?
mjr_: can't do anything with it
mircea_popescu: what diff does it make ? you don't have the key for it.
mjr_: they couldn't read the message, but theyt could disrupt it
mjr_: mirceau_popescu: upon furthor thought, i think that what you have set up IS the equivalent of a circuit...ie. you can verify communication between you and someone else, but i don't think it could work as a broadcast type message (i may be wrong) if i wanted it to take multiple hops, i would be vulnerable to MitM and phishing right?
mjr_: oh ok, i was going to say, i don't see the real point of an etf at the moment
smickles: (it wasn't really an etf)