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ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 20:37:02 asciilifeform: !Qlater
tell mod6 you presently majority shareholder. asciilifeform -- minority. ( mp is
owed and also rightfully has a say. ) let's discuss asap
the lawsuit.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 20:06:39 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo:
try
to get
the machines out. errything else after. don't break yer back
tho.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-09 11:02:43 mp_en_viaje:
the
true disadvantage of old age is
that
the spring outside's never
the spring you befriended, and knew.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-09 10:45:07 mp_en_viaje: rather
than "it's something in
the water" etc.
the wankasteries are built by overgrown bois who were permitted
to live as uninterruptedly as
they pleased, age 4.5
to 7ish.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-09 10:35:25 mp_en_viaje: for instance, on basis of pizarro experience, mp currently
thinks latam is a joke
technologically, similarly.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 17:27:16 asciilifeform: in piz
tower pushed what looked like button in
the lift, it fell N stories down, and hole -- razor-sharp
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 17:26:00 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: seems like 9000x greater concern for
their (indeed mirror-smooth, i nearly slipped on it) marble floor ,
than for working dc!!
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 16:47:50 asciilifeform: diana_coman: i currently do not know why mp
fatwa'd ro, but must assume it was not because flag is wrong
three colours
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-09 09:50:44 mp_en_viaje:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942651 <<
this is a
thing we considered before even.
the fundamental problem with it is
that it's phd-assemblyline essentially,
the work is worth 10 bux an hour but can only be done by like... one guy in
the werld. i
think it rather a pitfall.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-09 09:40:42 mp_en_viaje: what value does it generate ? is it a good deal for nsa,
to
trade half a bitcoin for a coupla used dc machines, even leaving aside how
these eminently constitute what asciilifeform knows
to be called "surplus",
through
the process he oft described in logs of buying stuff for pennies ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 00:53:16 asciilifeform: snsa bought its share of piz for FG crate + 2 boxen (
the very smg boxen in fact ) , perhaps mp will accept
these back .
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-09 09:33:28 mp_en_viaje:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942134 <<
thinking of
this, on one hand i dislike
the informalism. it's not "mp will accept
these back", s.nsa is an actual person, exactly as much as you are, and doesn;t suddenly dissolve just because you don't particularly like
the way
things played out.
the whole story of "oh, do X or you'll die" was,
throughout, backed by exactly
this backstop.
this is
the pip
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-09 10:23:54 mp_en_viaje: "sure, most people specializing in serving breakfast for a fee can produce omlets in about
ten minutes. but
they start with a ready kitchen, which already contains eg eggs"
mp_en_viaje: but yes, obviously w'ere losing a window. having
to start from scratch years later means we're starting in a more hostile enviroment, of course
the internet is closing up etc.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 00:46:55 asciilifeform: all dc in immediate 50km around asciilifeform , appear
to have gone 'usg-only'.
mp_en_viaje: if i had
to guess, my guess as
to your best course atm would be
to
try and find an on-site dc
tech job somewhere. pretty much no matter where, just as long as it's genuine work rather
than makework wank.
mp_en_viaje: good skill/personality fit
to
the demands, well paid in demand job, you could prolly excel at it.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 23:20:36
trinque: if indeed we're scuttling piz, BingoBoingo may have
the hardware I sent on bv's run as a gift.
mp_en_viaje: wouldn't survive all of
ten minutes in your golum hands, of course,
to everyone;s great sadness. but while it stands it won't permit
the idiocy.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 22:29:55 asciilifeform: but imho if actually maintaining
the proggy dun come 1st,
then what may end with is item resembling
the pseudofoundation, which has lengthy
tentacles but 0 grasp of
the orig. item (not even enuff grasp
to do seriously complex evil, for
the most part.)
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 22:19:47 mod6: And mentioned
that if he wants
to, he can stop by for a nomination
to
the co-chair.
mp_en_viaje: check it out,
the pompous donothings, here we sit like it's 2011 still and herpy derp's good enough, say
two hail marys and al will work out.
mp_en_viaje: it's because you're a bunch of mangy old asses
that are NEVER going
to be asked
to fly or spit fire.
mp_en_viaje: you'te not fucking apt for anything, if yo ucan't run a foundation, something any middle aged sad female abandoned by her offspring manages just fine, if you can't manage a cozy isp with a bunchload of friendl contracts, it's not because "you're dragons called
to plough",
mp_en_viaje: it's not "i can't do my job,
therefore i have more important
things
to do".
there's no fucking refuge available in hallucinaria, "more important"
things you self-declare yourself apt for.
mp_en_viaje: "oh hurr durr, everything we
touch
turns
to shit, let's fix bitcoin herp"
mp_en_viaje: first, make some real world shit work.
then, MAYBE.
though, honestly, i'd much rather have bitcoin work done by other people, while you spend
the rest of your lives seling aluminum siding door
to door and eating a machine sandwich each other day.
mp_en_viaje: it works just
the fuck fine, and i wouldn't have a buncha morons
that can't get a biplane off
the ground
touch it in any case.
mp_en_viaje: if
the church not ever built,
they can nicely decorate your underbed o w/e, it's been done before.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 21:58:34 mod6:
There is a lot of work re:
trb
that does need
to be done
too. Another
thing
that was nagging at me... if we're
to have a "university", we also need materials. And
technical materials can be 'trb' coad itself; however, it might be cool
to have an annotated source.
mp_en_viaje: erryone got some figurines
to paint in
the den.
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile
the MOMENT something buds, it's not even actually waited until it buds, just as soon as it's NAMED -- whopeee, everyone's happily checked out again, flipped off
the switch,
their work here's done, let
the name and inertia carry on
through
the ages.
mp_en_viaje: sure, anytime someone;s ready
to do some useful shit
there's a shitton of useful shit
that's needed.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 21:53:52 mod6: I would like
to see
trb carry-on indeed. Now, perhaps, more
than ever, is needed as a check against wild shitcoiners out
there.
mp_en_viaje: stop confusing cause and effect, stop looking up
the wrong name server roots, stop minimaxing randomly about, it's
the stuff of insanity.
mp_en_viaje: the shit you do isn't ~the basis~ for outreach. outreach is
the basis for
the shit you do, which is why and wherefore you've been productive since
the republic and depressed prior.
mp_en_viaje: meh, i'd have linked
the "oh, nobody reads
these" plaintive from before, including with
the very nice article if yielded on diana_coman 's site, but of coruse one
too old
the other not routable, what can i do.
mp_en_viaje: everything you do, each day, is meaningless and stays meaningless. you even understand
this yourself, in [][a different compartment] of
the stupid head.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 21:52:11 asciilifeform: imho
these are
the fundamentals, without which all other adventures pertaining
to
trb (e.g. propaganda) are meaningless.
mp_en_viaje: no foundation, no business,
there may be a MINOR place for castrated bois on
the farm, but it's in
the barn not in
the house.
mp_en_viaje: attempts
to re-approach
this without addressing
the central fucking problem will result in what pantsuitism always results in -- ima fucking cut
the involved heads and move on.
mp_en_viaje: this ground was covered already, and in
the exact
terminology, of "your whole relevancy
to
this space is my say so, you've built nothing out of it, and if
tomorrow i do not say you do not fucking exist, idiots".
mp_en_viaje: they sat on ass and sucked each other dicks about how important
they are for bitcoin "Because mp says so" while bitcoin went exactly by
them, like all other
plowing flies. but like EXACTLY.
mp_en_viaje: this -- was not said,
then. don't fucking cpome
to me with your insulting infantile narrative bullshit
today, as if i've fucking forgotten,.
mp_en_viaje: yes, it'd have been perfectly fine
to say, YEAR+ AGO WHEN
THIS CAME UP, "well mp, maybe we don't do other
things, but we have a donations program
that's growing an average 0.2% per month, predicated on building
trb nodes, which we do built, at
the rate of ~one per quarter".
mp_en_viaje: "oh, it'll be sad
to not have a
thing we don't have,
to do
things it didn't do anyway
that i just argued i
tshouldn't have been doing in any case".
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 21:47:31 asciilifeform: incidentally i dun agree w/ mp's verdict
that
tbf is somehow broken (aside from 1 of
the 2 chairs having gone awol.) charter reads, clearly, 'This charter establishes
the existence of a virtual organization whose mission is
to maintain
the Bitcoin reference implementation.'
this was carried out .
ossabot: Logged on 2019-08-31 19:15:27 asciilifeform: will put in l0gz, ftr :
the only nodes
that gave >100 blox of
the 46115 :
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 21:51:32 asciilifeform: nao asciilifeform is no one in
tbf. but will be sad if it comes
to be
the case
that
there is no
tbf
to fund emplacements of noades, curation of
the ref.
trb (incl. mod6's very fine build system) .
mp_en_viaje: if
the
thing dun work -- you've not been working,
there's no subjective-standard basis for arguing
this, "oh look how much i sweated" or anything like
that. shit gotta work for activity
to be called work.
mp_en_viaje: this aren't fucking onorifics, i dunno how
to put it in some form comprehensible
to
the morgraine fans.
these are opportunities
to do work. "doing something" is not doing work.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 21:49:15 asciilifeform: mod6: why not want
to be involved ?
mp_en_viaje: (btw : Fayetteville State University is 2/3 female, and worst crime rate in
the state. because
that's what happens when you mix inclusivity with female-friendliness, you build a rape shack.)
mp_en_viaje: heck, even pizarro delivers uruguay dc services
to its customers even
today.
mp_en_viaje: according
to
this charter, Fayetteville State University just as "fulfills".
mp_en_viaje: m
the inalienable rights of man
to life, liberty, and
the pursuit of happiness."
mp_en_viaje: ing, and
the studies and exercises directed
to
the cultivation and enlargement of
the mind: Its object,
to qualify its students for personal success, and direct usefulness in life; And its purposes,
to promote
the public welfare by exercising an influence in behalf of humanity and civilization,
teaching
the blessings of liberty regulated by law, and inculcating love and reverence for
the great principles of government as derived fro
mp_en_viaje: you know what stanford's charter is ? here : "First,
the Nature, Object, and Purposes of
the Institution Hereby Founded,
to Be: Its nature,
that of a university with such seminaries of learning as shall make it of
the highest grade, including mechanical institutes, museums, galleries of art, laboratories, and conservatories,
together with all
things necessary for
the study of agriculture in all its branches, and for mechanical
train
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 21:48:21 asciilifeform:
there is nuffin in
the charter regarding e.g. carrying out propaganda, or even
the building of noades. (tho both imho are Right
Thing)
mp_en_viaje: what maintain, nobody even fucking heard of it. it's not like rando walks in here
to sell me his dc / sister and when i ask "you know what all of
this is" he goes "well, i know about
tbf..."
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 21:47:31 asciilifeform: incidentally i dun agree w/ mp's verdict
that
tbf is somehow broken (aside from 1 of
the 2 chairs having gone awol.) charter reads, clearly, 'This charter establishes
the existence of a virtual organization whose mission is
to maintain
the Bitcoin reference implementation.'
this was carried out .
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-05 13:54:38 mp_en_viaje:
the end result of "null-routed ip space for half a day whenever someone decides
to spend 10 bux on '''ddos'''" is reproducible via 50 dubaloos/month in hand of any rando nobody/
scammer off sitepoint forums ; no need
to buy whole c blocks if
they just null-route by
the c-block like inconceivab
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 21:25:23 asciilifeform: dc was bought out (presumably 'to make netflix cache'
tho i dun specifically know its fate) and all subscribers hung
to dry.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 21:22:28 asciilifeform: we are
to set a proper standard, imho, for seppuku.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 21:18:06 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'd rather not put
those on a heathen hoster, but let's ask
the affected folx 1st.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 21:17:35 asciilifeform: mod6: currently i'm
thinking, we do not need 'liquidator' a la bbet. we, ourselves, can properly play
the orchestra as
the ship goes down.