asciilifeform: but machines receiving, and responding to, packet matter signed by NO ONE, has NO future.

asciilifeform: ~how~ to do this in a protocolic (rather than promisetronic) way, is another matter.

asciilifeform: mod6: the correct pill is to decouple (at least from enemy's pov) gossip station keys from royal keys.

asciilifeform: neato mod6

asciilifeform: in other noose, koch rolled out his 'wks' turd, http://www.golem.de/news/web-key-service-openpgp-schluessel-ueber-https-verteilen-1609-123194.html

asciilifeform: this is a healthy thing

asciilifeform: PeterL: perhaps he finally quit reddit

asciilifeform: so i have monumentally nfi.

asciilifeform: dunno, when folks post pr0nz i generally picture that it exemplifies what gets them going. or at least isnt wholly unappetizing. then again we also have BingoBoingo's material.

asciilifeform: so 18th c.

asciilifeform: the 'black deflorators' thing or what was it

asciilifeform: how did mircea_popescu even pick up this kink

asciilifeform: the new mines.

asciilifeform: junkyard planet.

asciilifeform: i did say.

asciilifeform: 'Lastly, it must be noted that there hasn't been any significant amount of these specimens on the market in approximately 25 years, and they are often only found in old collections. Recently I was informed that a Korean mining company has started a large commercial operation at Corocoro, specifically mining for Copper, leaving little possibility that more of these specimens will available in the future, or at least until the mining op

asciilifeform: dry in the sun.

asciilifeform: thestringpuller: clean with flux remover.

asciilifeform: viruviru?

asciilifeform: i thought only elemental cocaine comes out of the ground there!

asciilifeform: hyperborea.

asciilifeform: antarctica?

asciilifeform: the surface copper is gone.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is posting from time warp or wat.

asciilifeform: ~useless

asciilifeform: they dun sell elemental metals at the metal yard.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: copper with no strain relief will harden and snap just like any other metal.

asciilifeform: looks like copper from here.

asciilifeform: PeterL: funnily enough, the tallow candle is wireless device, so the imbeciles ~will~ get their wish.

asciilifeform: where the source and destination are not known to one another spatially.

asciilifeform: i.e. connectionless passing of data.

asciilifeform: Framedragger: backbone is usable to the extent it can simulate radio.

asciilifeform: shoot it in the head, pour cement.

asciilifeform: tcp has no future, Framedragger .

asciilifeform: Framedragger: not only tcp, but the horse it rode in on. whole thing must burn.

asciilifeform: inevitably. it'll be it -- or candlelight.

asciilifeform: it will come back into the habitations of poorfags

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: also i must sadly point out that aluminum wire is a forced mistake -- copper price.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: even in usa they banned

asciilifeform: hard to see on photo

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wire is silver-coloured ?

asciilifeform: avoid kink radius.

asciilifeform: you need sane geometry.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it isn't the shitmetal in this case.

asciilifeform: at any price.

asciilifeform: cannot be had.

asciilifeform: i was trying just the other week to buy for my cnc motors.

asciilifeform: and i mist dispute that 'others got right'. the ~correct~ wire for an item like this is ~coiled~ like old telephone cord. and is afaik available nowhere.

asciilifeform: but looks quite the same.

asciilifeform: they have replaceable mains ends though, so the death happens on the low voltage dc side.

asciilifeform: and for past decade+.

asciilifeform: without exception.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i will inform you with great joy that apple power adapters die in this identical manner.

asciilifeform: becomes brittle, like lathe cutter.

asciilifeform: it breaks from work hardening.

asciilifeform: btw wire breaks, not as folks naively assume, from fatigue

asciilifeform: works same.

asciilifeform: looks solid to me

asciilifeform: is it solid or stranded?

asciilifeform: still got that beheaded wire?

asciilifeform: should i give it away, or did he already find the key that opens this chest.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-09#1538218 << btw i can tell from mircea_popescu's photo why it exploded. ☝︎

asciilifeform: what's the trick?

asciilifeform: it is the mega-problem of the item.

asciilifeform: even ww2 flamethrowers had tricky ignition.

asciilifeform: evidently there was something more to it than cranking the pump.

asciilifeform: i always wondered

asciilifeform: btw recall how turks captured intact and fueled-up siphons and went wtf ?

asciilifeform: my point was that human tards also got fire.

asciilifeform: mno?

asciilifeform: this is kindergarten material - does anyone really misconceive zeus et al as 'allahs' ?!

asciilifeform: 'ooh, fire, now we are godz!1111'

asciilifeform: was when.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: probably when the prometeus dude stole the fire?

asciilifeform: yes, pan is hot. and hand - made of meat.

asciilifeform: much of what i've been doing in the mathematics room for past year has been to try to give this frying pan a handle.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu-signed vpatch can be made known over whatever medium. shortwave, if he likes.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you signed vpatch. can as readily broadcast it via gossip as via fleanode etc.

asciilifeform: ^

asciilifeform digs in hungrily

asciilifeform: though iirc this was in another mircea_popescutronic production

asciilifeform: i admit that i always liked that part.

asciilifeform: whose locations will somehow remain unknown to enemy, hdds - unstolen , packets - unmangled ?

asciilifeform: and it will run on what? six dudes' servers ?

asciilifeform: reimplement in what sense ?

asciilifeform: fleanode gives us a cheap plastic imitation of gossipd currently.

asciilifeform: this digression is unfortunately needed. because it exposes the point i was making earlier.

asciilifeform: sketch the parachute here plox

asciilifeform: because it, say, burns down at last.

asciilifeform: say we gotta leave fleanode.

asciilifeform: let's briefly gedankenexperiment:

asciilifeform: and ergo must die.

asciilifeform: and unsigned terminations

asciilifeform: it still has plaintext seq nums

asciilifeform: even if you stuff crypto sig into packet1

asciilifeform: Framedragger: tcp is evil.

asciilifeform: i dun expect other folks to do my work in my place, no.

asciilifeform: Framedragger seems to grasp my line of thought.

asciilifeform: it could easily stop tomorrow.