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mircea_popescu: incidentally, cast iron pots make best corn poppers omg.
mircea_popescu: not that you couldn't overload it horribly ("if this statement is signed by lkfjl5k shoot obama ; if it is signed by 3k4j5lkj54 shoot trump"signed) means what ?
mircea_popescu: signature is a different (ie, public-facing) usecase.
mircea_popescu: the above was re encryption.
mircea_popescu: sure.
mircea_popescu: but i'm not giving one single inch.
mircea_popescu: no idea.
mircea_popescu: and importantly, to continue this discussion asciilifeform , enemy can not reconstruct fp on the basis of intercepting your comms to me.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, you can check jack.
mircea_popescu: and you can check that it is, but only BECAUSE you are you and have them both.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not manually ; but you will get a notification from me saying "please use 54kh6kl54j3l45 instead of ,mn54,35lkjh4l3 from now on. it's the same modulus".
mircea_popescu: not signed at all.
mircea_popescu: and so on.
mircea_popescu: also, N is not a prime.
mircea_popescu: phf the only problem is that i want the comment to also be in there.
mircea_popescu: as they say, "save this sort of idea for when your father gives you your part of heavenly kingdom"
mircea_popescu: mno. it is idiocy.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't come from "this item assures me it is this item"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the "selfsig" comes in the form of "i obtained this key of mp from verified channel to mp".that's the sig.
mircea_popescu: but no, ustard gotta ustard all over himself.
mircea_popescu: phf they COULD just have made that "Comment" in some serialization and did the fp over it like i propose and been scott free.
mircea_popescu: why not ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you agree to package it separately, add to that "no automated signing of anything" and you've got my position.
mircea_popescu: phf what meta ? the comment ?
mircea_popescu: this is the problem with socialist solutions : they cap the benefit certainly ; and offer some solution that half works. so you've traded the long tail of the future for the guarantee of current failure.
mircea_popescu: and we currently DO NOT have any fucking clue anyway.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform we'd also care a lot less.
mircea_popescu: and so on and infinitum.
mircea_popescu: the fact that the youth is imbecile crates such designs
mircea_popescu: the fact that it appears to breeds idiocy in the youth.
mircea_popescu: a.key.can.not.certify.itself. never. not ever.
mircea_popescu: a key can't certify itself.
mircea_popescu: so ?
mircea_popescu: find someone to sign for you.
mircea_popescu: the one thing you can't do is - SELF SIG.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is a "self sig" ?
mircea_popescu: 3) as it's theoretically nonsensical, it feeds a bunch of idiotic yet unconscious expectations in the mind of the user. i am well convinced that the general "i'll pull myself by own breeches" attitude of "creative" people is both due to and resulting in the gpg selfsig
mircea_popescu: as it's not acctually correctly designed it 1) creates false sense of security ; 2) creates unnecessary byzantinism and "can't pop the hood on this" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: sure. some classes : as it's unnecessary in the discussed scheme, it 1) adds weaknes through requiring unneeded computation ; 2) gives crevice for shitgnomery for no reason (see anvin bs) ; 3) possibly creates weakness through unnecessary computation on key generation
mircea_popescu: but we don't want selfsig, for many reasons.
mircea_popescu: though material encrypted to it will still only be readable by me.
mircea_popescu: i want it to work this way though. if you take away my comment from my key and add something about how "miss piggy is the hawtest!!1" it's not, in my view, the same item.
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: talmud also had this.
mircea_popescu: much like dali certifies all copies ; he certifies yours.
mircea_popescu: the first time you encounter them you're in the presence of their owner.
mircea_popescu: anyway, fp is "checksum" de facto - if your modulus rotted it will no longer match the fingerprint
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why should it care ? keep it so it doesn't rot.
mircea_popescu: it's not "the sks server" that is retarded. is the concept of machine-spread rsa key that's retarded ; much in the way of "machine-generated trust", be it embodied in "dao" or "colored coins" or "safe bitbet" ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: machine processes ; people spread/administer. that's rsa key lifecycle.
mircea_popescu: no.
mircea_popescu: keys spread in wetware, not mechanically.
mircea_popescu: no cable.
mircea_popescu: anything they know works.
mircea_popescu: sane people!
mircea_popescu: if owner asks "which this" you are not sufficiently connected so as for you to has his key.
mircea_popescu: you can't have his key.
mircea_popescu: and you ask the owner "is this right"
mircea_popescu: how da fuck did you get the key ?
mircea_popescu: if your process can't detect rot, you can't use rsa.
mircea_popescu: wait, what ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no selfsig. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: b) i do not regard a modulus with a new comment pasted in as "same".
mircea_popescu: a) it becomes no longer obvious for enemy whether key is or is not = key he wants to look for.
mircea_popescu: i am in favour of includingthe comment. for the following two reasons :
mircea_popescu: the one remaining cowlick is, should fingerprint cover the whole e, N, comment ?
mircea_popescu: beats it being a csv line.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i see no problem with this.
mircea_popescu: neways, 95 characters. 95^1.2177 = 256.02008. 2/1.2177 = 1.642440667.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, im trying to follow your idea here ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wait, what ? implies ?
mircea_popescu: and for the record, base-tmsr=` !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_abcdefghijklmnopqrstuVWXYZ{|}~`
mircea_popescu: that's not really related is it ? all i'm discussing is a) fingerprint and b) armorer format.
mircea_popescu: also, let it look exactly like passwords.
mircea_popescu: and let it be hand-usable.
mircea_popescu: 62% more bits.
mircea_popescu: because hex takes 2 characters per byte ; whereas this would take ~1.232 characters/byte
mircea_popescu: yawell.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's fucking small and looks like '
mircea_popescu: ascii 32! through 126 inclusive excepting #96
mircea_popescu: hm.
mircea_popescu: ie `
mircea_popescu: ascii 36 through 126 inclusive excepting #96
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ideally tmsr rsa, such as for eulora etc, uses a fp and armored base90 as above. so there!
mircea_popescu: perhaps excepting one of 96, 39. make it 90.
mircea_popescu: ascii 36 through 126 inclusive (91 elements). much better.
mircea_popescu: $google base56
mircea_popescu: actually, why the fuck are we even using "base 56", which is braindamaged (no 1 AND no l ? really ?) when we should really be using base-120 or somesuch, ascii-high-byte half.
mircea_popescu: buy yes, base-56'd modulus is an obv alternative.
mircea_popescu: problem is you want a modulus-comment association no ?
mircea_popescu: yeah this entire "id of rsa key" thing needs a fix. i imagine sha512 of tmsr standard is the only way to go.
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3vvu7bFD2Y&t=709
mircea_popescu: which reminds me of perhaps the best cartoon episode ever made.
mircea_popescu: so it is, so it is.
mircea_popescu: "tommy devito" eh ?
mircea_popescu: neway. i was jus' bein' a little stylistical.
mircea_popescu: every dick's eventually spent, you can make it of whatever you want, metal, glass, dun matter.
mircea_popescu: is that a spent dildo next to him ?
mircea_popescu: ah nm, it was goodfellas. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pQ6fd6iO_c
mircea_popescu: do you mean joe pesci in the "get your shoeshine kit" scene in casino ?