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asciilifeform: the impracticality of 'code as specification' is wholly from the nonexistence of sane programming systems
asciilifeform: any statement that can be mechanically transformed into a working program, is a program.
asciilifeform: (if it were an adequate and total description, it would BE the proggy)
asciilifeform: i'm not convinced that specs have been invented yet.
asciilifeform: well yes, niven (and iirc it was niven, otherwise unremarkable hack) did not pull the idea out of his arse ex nihilo.
asciilifeform: y'know, the parallel greece that actually ran 'by the book' or however.
asciilifeform: like meta-greece.
asciilifeform: there was iirc at least 1 american writer dude whose alien invaders had nonsentient, entirely cow-like females
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: what's 'breeding fantasy'
asciilifeform: waiwat
asciilifeform: people in the sense of continuity with the present whoever. vs 'giant cockroaches that replace us' or similar.
asciilifeform: well iirc original q was, partially, 'will it be people'
asciilifeform: perhaps gigantic cockroaches will plow it.
asciilifeform: geological time./
asciilifeform: sahara ain't getting smaller, aral sea - wetter.
asciilifeform: well this is the usual picture, but it presupposes intact systems.
asciilifeform: exactly like usa's.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'their' industry, as i understand, is in shanghai.
asciilifeform: quite possibly they will fall back to '100k cellar dwellers in stalingrad'
asciilifeform: post-industrial shitholes do not necessarily cleanly fallback to '100k pygmies'
asciilifeform: i meant the q of 'how many can survive on forest rodent and cicada' etc.
asciilifeform: will not long remain an open question.
asciilifeform: at any rate, this will be tested experimentally.
asciilifeform: people dun eat grass.
asciilifeform: the necessary ecosystems are ~gone.
asciilifeform: dunno that this is still there to be reverted to.
asciilifeform: probably same hole.
asciilifeform: is what i'd like to know.
asciilifeform: aha! what hole did they fall into ?
asciilifeform: there was a venice, (most serene!111), a genoa, etc
asciilifeform: where did the smart italians go ?
asciilifeform: it was a spanish production originally.
asciilifeform: well yes.
asciilifeform: the spaniards were people.
asciilifeform: afaik communists have not yet succeeded in actually turning people into rabbit.
asciilifeform: .
asciilifeform: there is never an ~all~ monkeys starving - some remain, rediscover sickle, and work.,
asciilifeform: will be known again as soon as chinese tractors quit coming in.
asciilifeform: the hammer, if you will, is absent, south amer. is approx. 'sickle-only' place.
asciilifeform: this cult was a thing quite particular to the time and place - folks who are not making motions to industrialize etc. are not at risk.
asciilifeform: where did narrowminded derps not fuck it all up.
asciilifeform: 'in the great birdlessness, my arse is a nightingale.'
asciilifeform: well yes.
asciilifeform: fact is - looked good.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'the cow barn looked great after the mansion next door was burned down by drunken sons of old man rockefeller'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ftr, i'm still torn on the unauthenticated lighthouse thing. enemy can still make headaches for folks by silently mutating suspected lighthouse datagrams in transit.
asciilifeform: aaaand happy 128th comment!1111
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al : http://trilema.com/2016/gossipd-design-document/#comment-119069 << proposed 'lighthoused' spec
asciilifeform: !!up r00s
asciilifeform: ( http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2016/09/kunstlercast-transcript.html but most of it is a snore )
asciilifeform: k into that voting booth and out of spite pull the trigger for Trump. '
asciilifeform: 'One thing I've observed which is interesting which is that a lot of people will not admit that they're going to vote for Trump but you see it in their eyes. ... they're just keeping mum about it because their own family members will turn on them if they announced the fact that they're about to vote for Trump. There's going to be a huge number of men, specifically, angry ones who keep their anger hidden most of the time, who will wal
asciilifeform: in other orlols, 'In terms of where the Soviet Union stood beside the United States for instance, in the '70s during the oil embargo and all of the troubles that the US was going through, the economic troubles at the time, the Soviet Union was looking pretty good. In fact, that's when we left the Soviet Union thinking we were going to this dreamy place. We got there and it's a dump. It was just an unbelievably sad sight.'
asciilifeform: BIIIG
asciilifeform: ( i have been told that a surprising number of robberies involves arms that are obviously, to naked eye, shams. evidently many folks lose their shit and fail to notice... )
asciilifeform: also won't notice that papier-mache.
asciilifeform: (unless they're all seeekrit)
asciilifeform: ~0 robberies by woman on typical day where i live.
asciilifeform: ?
asciilifeform: camouflage for getaway >
asciilifeform: certainly would not abide barrel in the face as pictured, etc.
asciilifeform: folks who work with pieces that actually shoot, do not have this stance.
asciilifeform: well noshit.jpg
asciilifeform: l0l! where was this, 'pussyriot' ?
asciilifeform: ^ perfectly fine chix
asciilifeform: *within
asciilifeform: from yesterday's thread.
asciilifeform: something is buggy here, 'trayvon' would not be found withing a cannon's shot of 'burning man' as i understand.
asciilifeform: the penguins, in antarctica.
asciilifeform: also the 'thief isn't asking anything' model is quite a bit off. the 'dindus' of bmore are as actively managed and externally fed as the animals in any other zoo. no less so than the white suburban folk. neither sows, nor reaps, etc.
asciilifeform: but it does fear the thief. at the very least, as a class. rulers who interfere with a mass plunder in progress tend to develop 'problems'.
asciilifeform: by justifying the existence of the 'catch and release' system of police, judge, jail, etc.
asciilifeform: thief supplies valuable services to usg
asciilifeform: not even
asciilifeform: recall the copper thread.
asciilifeform: and lafond is basically correct, in any confrontation between honest men and thieves, usg takes the side of the thief.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: aha, anything! but impaling thieves.
asciilifeform: make out of what? americans ?
asciilifeform: suitcase, airplane, namibia ?
asciilifeform: and where's he to get 'trustable' ones ?
asciilifeform: 'I will not lie to honorable men, but am committed to lying to women, because they cannot handle the truth and cannot be trusted with it in the face of your enemies.' << this ?
asciilifeform: does subj link read like 'cow man' to mircea_popescu ?
asciilifeform: perhaps BingoBoingo knows.
asciilifeform: well i did not go to his boxing school, and have nfi if factual or cover story or wat.
asciilifeform: as i recall, lafond is old man, has no women.
asciilifeform: for money.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fella teaches, iirc, boxing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: seems like his trainees have a use
asciilifeform: his thought process, as i gather, was roughly 'there were picketfences. and working men Got Things. and petrol was twopence/gallon. and then the weevils came. and the zombies came. if we could be rid of the zombies, of the weevils...'
asciilifeform: relatedly, i've always wondered if the thing re wolf population post-ww2 were factual.
asciilifeform: wolf is a winner.
asciilifeform: vs usg and its fines for shooting 'rare' wolf etc.
asciilifeform: i thought it was with the farmer.
asciilifeform: in other other noose, http://blog.trendmicro.com/trendlabs-security-intelligence/pokemon-themed-umbreon-linux-rootkit-hits-x86-arm-systems << run MOAR dynamic linking !11
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.is/8Sb0n : 'Paramount Pictures recently sent a DMCA takedown to Google, listing a copy of the popular operating system Ubuntu.'
asciilifeform: shinohai: shamaning is easy, engineering - less easy.
asciilifeform: and i have reason to suspect that mpb is catastrophically defective and fails to pass tx to trb (which, recall, is a reference, one does not get to say that it is broken in vs the unpublished mpb) under certain circumstances.
asciilifeform: half the time i do not even know if he is speaking of a trb -- or mpb! node.
asciilifeform: incidentally, i still have nfi what mircea_popescu's patchset is. understandably he can stay mum about it if he likes, but it makes his debugging reports ~useless from a trb pov.