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ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 11:04:42 asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1943101 << the heathen dc q imho resolves to 'best horses in glue factory'. so far seems 100% tards. nao, which tard do you want to do biz with ?
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1943290 << well, i nearly did with the one with a gpg key.
mp_en_viaje: takes a lot of actual work to make properly, who's gonna do it
mp_en_viaje: because obviously, how the fuck are they gonna mass-market the definitive lordly product, strudel existed back in the day when the consumers were few, not many.
mp_en_viaje: all the strudel in austria and bavaria was SHAITE incomprehensible. it was called that, it came from there, it was not worth the eating.
mp_en_viaje: if then million people want your hand-made linzer torte / apfelstrudel / whatever, what do you do ?
mp_en_viaje: consider also that, as far as anyone knew, working pizarro was ~only avenue of resolving the "by large group" issue. yes, if pizarro became 2020s digitalocean, then surely the demand on alf-sealed hw would have become such that alf... what ?
mp_en_viaje: which is both why a) my girls, while required to perfrom ~just as well as whores~ nevertheless aren't on sale with the other whores and b) i don't see the wisdom in trained-monkey-alf-business.
mp_en_viaje: work that not many can do that not many want is exactly the stupid girl trap. alf's highly dramatized whinings about tin soldiers aside, i'd very much like to protect my household, however construed, from such wasteful fate.
mp_en_viaje: which sums up to, there are TWO key ingredients in getting paid. work that not many can do ~and that many want~.
mp_en_viaje: but the market still is what the market is -- unless you can convince ~a whole group~ to apply the above algo, you've got nothing. hence the importance of outreach.
mp_en_viaje: now, to continue the analogy -- certain people prefer certain people's sex tapes, very drastically, in that will buy no others.
mp_en_viaje: in this sense, minimum wage is a substitute for the capital cost of having the moron shot.
mp_en_viaje: (its value, incidentally, is positive also because of the market effect -- if retard was there doing that therefore was not somewhere else doing something else, and the value of the spurious man not hindering the actual humans is positive always.
mp_en_viaje: however, sex tapes are worth minwage, and only because that's what minwage means (in socialism), the arbitrary value of hour of sweat
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-09 09:50:44 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942651 << this is a thing we considered before even. the fundamental problem with it is that it's phd-assemblyline essentially, the work is worth 10 bux an hour but can only be done by like... one guy in the werld. i think it rather a pitfall.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 11:03:11 asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1943080 << does mp believe in market economics ? how is in it possible that 'can be done by 1' at same time 'worth 10/hr like broom sweep' ?
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1943287 << it's possible, it's possible. consider the value of your unpublished sex tape. as such, can be done by exactly one at a time -- if you're not in it, it's not your sex tape.
diana_coman: anyway, for now I think it won't hurt to put up a page with vpatches on younghands.club too
mp_en_viaje: which is funny, because story in a story, look that what he says of his life's my life's usage of his.
mp_en_viaje: in fact, have been using him like this for years ; and amusingly last night fell on passage, "Thence I after dinner to the Duke of York's playhouse, and there saw "Sir Martin Mar-all;" which I have seen so often, and yet am mightily pleased with it, and think it mighty witty, and the fullest of proper matter for mirth that ever was writ; and I do clearly see that they do improve in their acting of it. "
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 10:55:34 asciilifeform: eats log, w/ high-quality mp flames etc, may take while
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1943281 << i'm reading samuel pepys. an excellent read, to wash out the shaw & other intellectual warts and clots.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: myeah, I had the ref code page on ossasepia.com ; ofc; of fucking course.
BingoBoingo: On top of every lord their own isp
mp_en_viaje: i guess we're gonna have to get a "all v-trees everywhere" program going systematically
diana_coman: fwiw the bitch was making sure I have latest mpwp; because shit, hanbot's site is down, billymg's site is down and yes, I had backups of the db and www but not of all software too, sigh.
asciilifeform: neato diana_coman . BingoBoingo has the last-alive copy tho, if it is needed.
mp_en_viaje: just the beatign by iself ain't gonna do much.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: why do you think asciilifeform comes to mp_en_viaje to be beaten with ramrods ?
mp_en_viaje: but im just saying, gotta stretch the mind, can't always to the same shape
mp_en_viaje: and i fixed some ru verse. this is like complaining about chocolate.
asciilifeform: screw priests, i've a whole pope on the line here
mp_en_viaje: don't tell me "priests", please, for love of my sides.
mp_en_viaje: why does it always have to be someone else ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: ftr i dun think yer wrong, that we're all charlatans. if i knew where the 'competent people who solve problems' live, would show to mp_en_viaje , and go off to the bar where phf is working on his cirrhosis .
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, this is so.
mp_en_viaje: but yes, the whole fucking concept's that perhaps pooling salvation might work.
mp_en_viaje: well for one BingoBoingo selflessly saved everyone from having to confront the "wtf are you doing" thing for a year or two.
asciilifeform: perhaps some of'em will return the favour..
mp_en_viaje: good thing you asked then.
mp_en_viaje: you saved them.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: where's the gallows where you hanged all the fellas who didn't write logger in august ?
mp_en_viaje: and presto, solution to pantsuit websitization and accountization in hand.
mp_en_viaje: but you deliver it in a fortnight and then i can hang everyone who doesn't similarly, for being a wayward dick-in-hands.
mp_en_viaje: such that for instance, when i say "well, convert your namecheap membership into an irc bot, and open it to the republic then", people don't go "omfg mp, what unthinkable thing, let me spend now 6 years '''meditating''' in my wankastery".
mp_en_viaje: what i need, and want, and would help plenty, would be more competent people who can AND DO solve the relevant problems.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun expect that he'll find it tho. cuz he's trapped on this hell planet where there's 1 actual-person and 1e10 tards.
BingoBoingo: And speaking with other small business folks on the Monday lawyer/networking walk suggests Uruguay may see a cascaded of non-farm business failures in near future. This may or may not be an interesting watch.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: If everyone clusters in the same hole, however nice, there will still be colorrevolution tards. Them's the brakes.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: maybe at some pt he'll turn up that shangri-la that's populated by Actual People, i.e. mp-grade, and we can all go 'slice lengthwise' .
BingoBoingo: MP's informative tour writeups suggest all the world is mostly populated by tards of some sort.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: 2 years ago I was in the zone. Now I am out of the zone in an area populated by one kind of tard.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i won't repeat again, to keep up snr, but get outta there while you can. the atmosphere already eating you at the edges.
BingoBoingo: But his description of the childhood, it seemed to hit the mark.
asciilifeform: the BingoBoingo of 2y ago would not have said this, tho !
BingoBoingo: The last thing I want to do is pick a spot on the globe and go there with even less of idea of "Wat do" than was present when I picked Uruguay.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: pretty interesting thread tho, aint it ? we make 2y of isp from a crumpled wad mp threw in the trash, and we're all 'autistic castrato bois'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you'll be selling own coin to eat soon. so best not to delay.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Picking a coordinate on a timeline spec'd with "as soon as" seems like a rush if the circumstances aren't forcing it.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun expect that you'll listen, but imho you oughta pick a coordinate from mp's globe and take that evacuation, as soon as the reactor's properly quenched.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 09:44:43 mp_en_viaje: if i had to guess, my guess as to your best course atm would be to try and find an on-site dc tech job somewhere. pretty much no matter where, just as long as it's genuine work rather than makework wank.
BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1943274 << Once the fires and tamped down, I can start a search along these lines.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: mp for instance seems to think that asciilifeform -- already a shell. and i'm not even 100% certain that he's wrong.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: but not 'next year' or there'll be no one to evacuate, BingoBoingo .
BingoBoingo: But, the day to get out of Uruguay is not today, or tomorrow, or this week.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: eventually will come the day when the behaviour of e.g. the latech people, seems ~normal~ to BingoBoingo .
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ftr i think he's right, and you gotta get out if you want to keep yer head. the radiation will getcha.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 08:38:54 mp_en_viaje: and, ethically speaking, if this means you hafta leave uruguay, leave fucking uruguay, because ~IT IS BROKEN~.
BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1943194 << If it comes to that, yes
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you'll go to the mercado, establish the floor for auctionbot . seems elementary.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's not an auction thing. It's a classified ad thing. If we want to do both we'll probably have to auctionbot with a floor, then give them some time on OrcadoLibre, then when patience or reason runs out second auction on auctionbot is what I'm thinking.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there, and in parallel w/ proper auction on auctionbot .
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 08:17:56 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942824 << really ?! whenever i needed something there, it was either at a premium on their local shitlist (mercado something) or else (more commonly) not even available, had to be courriered in.
BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1943166 << The local MercadoAmaBay thing is probably going to take time but have the best chance at getting value out of servers.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 00:46:55 asciilifeform: all dc in immediate 50km around asciilifeform , appear to have gone 'usg-only'.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-09 12:49:19 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1943057 << what's the use of a dc that far ?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-09 12:33:12 mp_en_viaje: check it out, the pompous donothings, here we sit like it's 2011 still and herpy derp's good enough, say two hail marys and al will work out.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1943263 << check it out, asciilifeform is 'pompous do-nothing', and not the fella on a 9mo vacation who never so much as tied shoes with own hands
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 08:08:48 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942779 << what sorta weight did you have there after all ? in excess of 100kgs is it ?
BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1943154 << All together 100 kg +/- 20% sounds about right
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-09 12:28:29 mp_en_viaje: first, make some real world shit work. then, MAYBE. though, honestly, i'd much rather have bitcoin work done by other people, while you spend the rest of your lives seling aluminum siding door to door and eating a machine sandwich each other day.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1943258 << so , sack erryone, bring in these mythical 'other people' , why wait ? why mp surrounds himself with 'retarded bois' ?
asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1943254 << i dun get it, do you want the item properly completed or not ?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-09 12:09:35 mp_en_viaje: attempts to re-approach this without addressing the central fucking problem will result in what pantsuitism always results in -- ima fucking cut the involved heads and move on.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1943233 << is tbf 'person' ? or also tin soldier, i.e. fights while mp moves it on game board, dies when he knocks it over ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 21:18:06 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'd rather not put those on a heathen hoster, but let's ask the affected folx 1st.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-09 11:41:05 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942860 << the ~pub~keys ?
asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1943198 << this is point. asciilifeform -- misread.
asciilifeform: if he stays there, will break also.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-09 11:38:14 mp_en_viaje: and, ethically speaking, if this means you hafta leave uruguay, leave fucking uruguay, because ~IT IS BROKEN~.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 21:11:45 asciilifeform: mod6: since BingoBoingo apparently wishes to stay in uruguayistan, gotta cleanly nuke the contract.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-09 11:31:05 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942846 << if that's what you wanna do, it's much likelier to be cheaper to pay than to litigate.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-09 11:22:37 mp_en_viaje: i seem to recall this other attorney that didn't charge megabux (in fact, like a hundy or so per month) that i've surprise-discovered in your wake and on which you've been owin me for like a year now. i'm starting to think it'll get discharged "for cost of postage" also, just as soon as i'm ready ?
asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1943177 << the 'master attourney' who mp billed as 'will use gpg' but never heard of any such thing ? him ? yes i'ma pay what mp billed for this 'service' .
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-09 11:24:19 mp_en_viaje: just how, HOW the fuck does the noggin work on your shoulders, dude ? you think paying a coupla grand a month for dc pipe is maxint while you think dc hardware you carried through customs at great expense and is locally irreplaceable has no resale value, you think lawyers will be cheap while you don't pay lawyers that were cheap, you think lawyers could help you but lawyers with proven track record of helping you
asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1943178 << it ~could~ have resale value, and i dun particularly care ~where~ sold. this is last step of the disassembly, to be done only after the data recoveries, refunds, evacuations .
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 21:08:07 asciilifeform: mod6: orc attourneys i suspect dun charge megabux. but imho worth to find what'd cost. perhaps even 1 would work on contingency, and then only costs to feed BingoBoingo .
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-09 11:20:50 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942840 << and this suspicion is based on your never talking to any or what ?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-08 15:01:51 mp_en_viaje: ah yes, they do owe us some money, but i wasn't converted afaik.