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Eduard_Munteanu: Good thing we don't carry BTCs around in our wallets.
Namworld: I didn't... but that might have happened.
Namworld: In case that wasn't clear.
Eduard_Munteanu: I don't remember the nick unfortunately.
Namworld: Sheesh, with all the BitVPS shares, S.DICE and other stuff I have, I don't have much capital laying around
Namworld: ask Joel Katz on the forum, or something like that. Or look for it on the forum. I don't know much about how Ripple works exactly.
Namworld: Ripple doesn't hold any currency, the user does.
Namworld: Do you trust the guy? No? Then don't accept the trade...
Namworld: ripple isn't supposed to be a currency you trade for money
Namworld: I don't think it works like that Thick...
Namworld: Ok, I don't know how it works at all...
Namworld: yeah, I don't understand that either
Bowjob: I don't know if I did something smart or stupid
mircea_popescu: some people just aren't made to handle money is all.
mircea_popescu: only fair, bets on the 21st that bfl won't deliver by 1st
mircea_popescu: "As I've written in previous posts, we are dealing with such an accelerated time scale that all of these facilities simply aren't used to dealing with."
mircea_popescu: The simple fact of the matter is there hasn't been any solid updates to offer.
OneMiner: Bowjob If my miner was the only one in the world, it wouldn't go through.
dub: you don't decide what tx get through
iz: the problem is that there isn't an alternative
jurov: iz, you're going to cripple the whole system just because of political reason, don't you see that?
mircea_popescu: if it can't do EVEN THAT then forget it.
mircea_popescu: look! it's really simple! bitcoin was designed to do 1mb blocks. if it can't do 1mb blocks it sucks, dies, we move to solidcoin.
dub: I don't think its going away
mircea_popescu: i can't believe this debate still exists.
OneMiner: It's how that casino is doing it's business. You don't go up and change money after every bet when you are in a casino, do you?
iz: casinos usually use chips, and don't have their clients bet using credit card payments
dub: instead of using yours that isn't designed for that
jurov: how you want to get critical mass when it can't handle even one casino???
OneMiner: Ya, the blockchain isn't going to be lost for long if it is lost. I don't think they'd need anything fancy for it.
dub: businesses don't do that
jurov: blockchain doesn't need to be stored properly. you just buy commoditized server with it preinstalled and backup only the wallet. it breaks? buy another one
OneMiner: More transactions is better than less. In the future we won't have 2012 hardware, we'll have future hardware.
dub: don't think*
dub: jurov: I don;t hink anyone is arguing against that, if adoption is successful
jurov: so they shouldn't use bitcoin, you say?
jurov: why wouldn't they pay much less for a full node that can deal with 1TB/month to enable them access to bitcoin system?
iz: yeah, everyone is a node, even if they aren't mining
dub: how long before we can't run one on 2012 hardware?
maximian: SD just amplifies that weakness. and if it wasn't SD it'd be someone else. The problem has to be solved, and it can't be solved by banning. It's a fundamental architectural problem.
iz: just because the problem can be solved by stupidly throwing money at it, doesn't mean it's not a problem that could have a more elegant solution
iz: maybe in 2 years there is something else that doesn't have the same flaws being actively exploited to the detriment of everyone else..
jurov: don't tell me only 7 nodes can afford buying one harddrive per year
iz: transaction fees won't make a difference until we start hitting the max blocksize
iz: everyone relays transactions, even if they don't pickup the transaction and regardless of the fees
ThickAsThieves: if there's mass bitcoin adoption, people won't want to wait
iz: the fees won't fix anything
Namworld: Just doesn't fit Bitcoin's to start saying what is or what is not allowed.
pigeons: i don't think he is
jurov: but let them stay KISS... can't optimize for everything anyway
jurov: sigh...now if my bots weren't caught like deer in headlights on last spike
Namworld: didn't do too well eh...
Bugpowder_: thestringpuller: you don't know what you are talking about
jurov: i wouldn't go below 10% monthly
aethero: FastCash4Bitcoins is a service of Tangible Cryptography LLC. We are not an exchange; we are a direct buyer of bitcoins. In keeping with the bitcoin philosophy of limited third party trust we don't hold client's balances (bitcoins or dollars), instead we only accept a sale when we can promptly pay it
dub: I don't know what that is
mircea_popescu: it doesn't buy does it
aethero: jcpham: T shirts.
sgornick: Namworld: I see. That isn't clear from the profile. A rational person might think otherwise from viewing the site.
Namworld: sgornick, even if you bought ziggap you wouldn't parts of ziggap LLC
sgornick: BitPride isn't even an LLC or whatever, I have no idea what I'ld own if I held a share.
sgornick: There is a ZigGap LLC, on their site but the Asset listing doesn't use that,so not sure what I'ld own.
sgornick: That's two IPOs in two days where in the U.S., crowdfunding equity was raised from the public. The SEC still hasn't published its rules or this would be more common. (Still wouldn't be done the same way from them, ..., i.e., couldn't buy shares anonymously but there would be a path for an entrepreneur to put a company out there.)
jcpham: i didn't realize there was a team
aethero: pigeons its OK if you're gay. We don't judge here. The internet is for all.
Bugpowder_: no u didn't
Bugpowder_: but u didn't buy any shares
mircea_popescu: jborkl sell sells. mkopt creates them but does't sell
mircea_popescu: wait. mkopt doesn't state price ?! what ?
dub: free shipping on orders over $100, because im goign to buy 140 bitcoin t-shirts
Bugpowder: I don't know how to control the bots. Sometimes I think they react to large bid or ask walls, but I could be just inferring signal from noise.
jurov: so that wouldn't be so big surprise if another mpoe wall arises
ThickAsThieves: while i see great long term value in mpoe, i honestly don;t understand the level of value it's at
ThickAsThieves: can't it just be someone who wanted to control the market of the most frequently traded asset?
jurov: no i think that didn't happen... s.mpoe value seems pretty independent of dividends
jurov: if that wasn't from mpoe, then we'd clearly see options volume way above reported by mpoe
jurov: i don't understand,too. if that money was from mpoe, it would show as mpoe loss
mjr_: and i am fine with that...if you don't really believe in your position, get out when the price moves "for no reason"
mjr_: and if you don't think that these markets, including mt. gox aren't manipulated constantly, then you haven't been watching
mjr_: i don't buy them to lose money...
mjr_: i don't understand
jurov: if you weren't ignoring all my offers, you'd knew i have data, too
mjr_: what i don't understand is why people would raise the price the day after dividends
jurov: thestringpuller don't say it's me again
mircea_popescu: whoever did this (if it's 1 person) doesn't strike me as a pt player.
mircea_popescu: some people don't want to earn on their bitcoin, but i would guess most do.
benkay: wouldn't know; baby markets.
benkay: i don't know if i'm articulating well. take for instance http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.BTCUSD.C170T
dub: and I have bitcoins I just don;t have a working wallet I can access remote
mircea_popescu: dub i thought you didn't have bitcoins cause you suck ?
mircea_popescu: as proven by the fact that they don't have it.
mircea_popescu: so... if you have money it's because you stole the dough rightfully belonging to those that don't have it
thestringpuller: i wish http://bitcoin-analytics.com/ wasn't so shitty
thestringpuller: now I can't english
mircea_popescu: i don't need to continue, it's dumbassery "internet marketing"
thestringpuller: continue on and tell me you don't think it's a ponzi
mircea_popescu: i don't even really know, what's the volumes ?
mircea_popescu: Namworld why can't some people like one and some people the other ?
Namworld: Plus some people left after, RG was not answering us and hadn't given us all login infos/datacenter info to pay server rents/contact them if there was issues.
jurov: can't you just hide them from the list?