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mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-10-2015#1306344 << i'm aware of no sane paywall implementation (which is to say, other than my own) which violates this. ☝︎
ascii_field: as i understand, the ethereum thing was not purely a classical scam, but has abstract/usgtronic political aims
mircea_popescu: i'm not a bit player.
thestringpuller: i guess royalty is bad word. qntra publishes something, people buy what's published, qntra receives revenue for as long as that thing is "in print"
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i dun see a future for royalties :D
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: well, it's all the media of the new republic. << This was my point. The 'intellectual property' or whatever you want to call it spawning from qntra is the value. For instance a movie or book, or some other form of media published under qntra. I see royalties in the future perhaps?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i suspect the very notion of PAYMENT is going to be destroyed by btc. let me illustrate what i mean.
ascii_field: so, not a brainfart, i really meant to say this. but it is possible that i catastrophically misunderstand the purpose of qntra.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-10-2015#1306343 <<< ftr i'm a great fan of jurov's sense of humour. ☝︎
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i really was thinking 'qntra is a propaganda machine primarily for speaking to non-#b-a people.' ergo 'thinking folks other than myself dislike paywalls' is a relevant hypothesis
trinque: got another deedbot- hacking weekend coming up; we'll see what I bite off
ascii_field: mod6: see thread. i'd like to be able to link to known lines in known files of known vhash.
trinque: the day rapidly approaches when I simply write my own IRC handling part, rather than using this golang bot
trinque: pete_dushenski: heh. some piece of inane, unnecessary complexity for sure. died during a netsplit so I assume he handles this rather poorly.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field the point i'm coming to is that it's, unlike something you/those thinking people have actually thought about, merely an aculturation. ie, "this is how we dress". and i know where it comes from too, and so forth. nothing wrong with it, but it is what it is.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: now that you say this, i'm not even sure i correctly apprehend the purpose of qntra.
mod6: ascii_field: for lxr should jurov and I just put up the code to HEAD that includes through 'maxint' and 'verifyall' -- and we'll label it "HEAD" or "v0.5.4-TEST2"? There isn't any actual reason to have two versions of code going up through each leaf is there?
assbot: Logged on 23-10-2015 13:39:19; jurov: and on more serious note, I miss anything about paragraph formatting, guess <p> should be allowed or even endorsed, too.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i get that the phrase triggers your allergy.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field besides the point what you were tryingt to say. the important thing to notice is how your mental flow went. and it went to "i am not alone". why would it ?
mircea_popescu: moreover she didn't want to / understand she has to make a gpg, and i dun wanna encourage the demuring damsels.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the point i was trying to make was not that some 'silent majority' (tm) of thinking people dislike paywall and 'therefore paywalls suck', but that, if my hypothesis is true, it may pose a practical problem - how many of the folks in #b-a would have taken an interest in it if merely reading the logs had cost money ?
mircea_popescu: yeah pete_dushenski but i recall we briefly interviewing a moderately talented fellow in this very chan and he wanted a billion euros or some shit.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-10-2015#1306368 << for 1000 words per, i'm sure he could. ☝︎
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i did say 'thinking people'
assbot: Logged on 23-10-2015 18:00:47; ascii_field: and i don't think i am alone among thinking people in this position on paywalls.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-10-2015#1306332 << and if you were to be against gpg, or against signed commits, or against "not everyone is/can be a contriobutor" or for "women in tech" in the sense of lipstick in the optic drive or a bunch of other equally nutty notionms, you could equally say "i don't think i am alone" and more importantly, FIND YOURSELF INCLINED TO SAY IT ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i just gave you some lsd (by permission) in the shape of serotonin or whatever you fired in your own brain.
mircea_popescu: how much money does the pet earn you ascii_field ? and what P/E do i need to pay to buy her ?
mircea_popescu: i don't explain 'em mr seinfeld, i just exterminate 'em.
assbot: Logged on 23-10-2015 18:00:09; ascii_field: that'll be when i stop reading.
assbot: Logged on 23-10-2015 17:58:38; ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-10-2015#1306139 << advertising has no future in a sane world. but has anyone invented even a hypothetical profit model for qntra that doesn't in some way involve it? i've been wondering this since the day q opened
mircea_popescu: they also don't put chunks of mango in the mango icecream i bet. you knolw ?
mircea_popescu: (tru story : doctor's visit. "why do my knees hurt me doc ?" "oxalates" "what do i do ?" "no more chocolate" "OMGWTFBBQ".)
assbot: Logged on 23-10-2015 17:49:30; ascii_field: thing is, it is necessary to explain why i can get ru chocolate (and without breaking a sweat, really) at some mere 3x
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-10-2015#1306291 << lightweight. i get argentinian chocolate at $20 a lb. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-10-2015#1306275 << naw, i've had perfectly fine swiss, belgian etc. you just gotta not buy the murican crap ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 23-10-2015 17:41:00; ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-10-2015#1305949 << w's plantation is preserved to this day. museum. i've been there. 'not poor' does not begin to describe it.
pete_dushenski: better to understand that part of the world now than after i'm already there
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i was thinking about this, there's no way to avoid a v dependency anyway, in principle. so it will have to be a python www anyway
mircea_popescu: i guess i missed this mechaqnism in there then
mircea_popescu: looky, there's sometrhing dysfiunctional in this process of "i want this thing, and i want it to work exactly like this thing i made, that i'm not publishing". what is this, tru love mating ?
ascii_field: atm i desperately lack the time to do anything useful with this.
ascii_field: and i now consider mod6's gadget to have superseded mine.
ascii_field: i actually had this working in my unpublished v-wwwtron
mircea_popescu: i suppose this will need a xreference db
ascii_field: i don't need a 100MB pile of shit in my browser, ty
ascii_field: is all i need for this.
mircea_popescu: no listen, i understand what you want
mircea_popescu: but if you're not happy with the mere "meaningless line" as seen i ntrilema selection
ascii_field: well, more concretely, today i wanted to link to one of the places where funkenstein introduced a mistake
assbot: Logged on 23-10-2015 16:45:38; ascii_field: because i can't link to individual lines of code there.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-10-2015#1306217 << the solution to this may actually be trivial. there's a snippet of javascript i stole off the archive.is guy, it's now on trilema, alloows for this. see http://trilema.com/2015/that-spiffy-selection-thing/ ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 23-10-2015 16:11:41; HeySteve: well, I've accepted a freelance writing contract for this weekend so I can't make any immediate changes. if someone is interested in editing it, I think it's worth doing before Banx assumes its next form
ascii_field: but perhaps i'm thick
ascii_field: i really can't fathom how qntra could turn a profit any more than therealbitcoin could
thestringpuller: me either. qntra isn't a webcomic so I don't expect it to monetize as such. but the webcomics have held their own.
ascii_field: i've no idea. ask mircea_popescu perhaps.
ascii_field: i have nfi how much it makes
thestringpuller: iirc "What If?" (munroe's book) did quite well. i had a dream about a Qntra book.
ascii_field: because if i can't link to it, it doesn't rightfully exist
ascii_field: notice that when we discuss books, i eventually end up linking a w4r3z copy here.
ascii_field: 'if i can't link someone to it, it isn't part of the conversation' or how did it go.
ascii_field: thestringpuller: thing is, i only buy books because reading on electronic machines is unpleasant (and before anyone asks, i own a dozen or so different types)
ascii_field: and i don't think i am alone among thinking people in this position on paywalls. ☟︎
ascii_field: that'll be when i stop reading. ☟︎
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-10-2015#1306139 << advertising has no future in a sane world. but has anyone invented even a hypothetical profit model for qntra that doesn't in some way involve it? i've been wondering this since the day q opened ☝︎☟︎
ascii_field: but then again i don't go in for consorting with strangers at all, so nobody-asked-me (tm)
ascii_field: jurov: for now let's have the ones i've signed ?
punkman: I did!
ascii_field: punkman: you can get plutonium slabs, sure. i was speaking of ice cream
punkman: I can get belgian slabs for 10-15eur/kilo from a local bakery
ascii_field: anyway it remains simple to get actual chocolate, at least near major urban centers in usa (where ru immigrants live.) but as an ~ingredient~ it has become very scarce. i've largely given up on ice cream, for instance.
ascii_field: thing is, it is necessary to explain why i can get ru chocolate (and without breaking a sweat, really) at some mere 3x ☟︎
ascii_field: i suppose they picked between soy oil and 'add a zero to the price'
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: nato chocolate has sucked donkey arse for as long as i've been alive, afaik
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-10-2015#1305949 << w's plantation is preserved to this day. museum. i've been there. 'not poor' does not begin to describe it. ☝︎☟︎
ascii_field: (i write a patch, sign it, throw in the hopper, everyone who has my name ticked - sees a tree with that patch applied. but OLD LINKS MUST CONTINUE TO WORK)
jurov: anyway, i don't have any idea how you want it to be laid out. lxr's idea of versions is just a flat list.
mod6: and "press" will output this automatic patching process to an output directory. I could bundle that up and send it to you if that's what you mean?
assbot: Logged on 23-10-2015 15:34:43; mircea_popescu: PeterL i space question marks but that's really my mental problem, nobody else.
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-10-2015#1306088 << i would always remove the space when bashing lines on twitter. Same thing when quoting asciilifeform; I'd change his single quotes into double quotes ☝︎
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron i'm with you there
assbot: Logged on 23-10-2015 15:30:24; mircea_popescu: <danielpbarron> and I don't get the space between the last word of a sentence and the punctuation << the wut ?!
jurov: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/ back online, i have riced postgres and it ran out of memory
ascii_field: (and i've no time to make a proper job of it)
ascii_field: mod6: i have a half-written one but it is no good
ascii_field: but now it will have to wait, until i can link to lines of code.
ascii_field: all of this is because i wanted to show funkenstein why his patch is catastrophically mistaken
ascii_field: because i can't link to individual lines of code there. ☟︎
mod6: oh, i didn't know that one was down. jurov any thoughts on that?
ascii_field: so, what, i have to keep my own ?
Zuardi: felipelalli somehow recently I ended up on trilema, link of link of a link
felipelalli: Zuardi, Jampa didn't work with me. I guess we know each other while we both were subscribed to "radinho de pilha" then "webees" email list.
felipelalli: Zuardi, who is him? I didn't know that.
HeySteve: well, I've accepted a freelance writing contract for this weekend so I can't make any immediate changes. if someone is interested in editing it, I think it's worth doing before Banx assumes its next form ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i have to dig it out of you with irons that "hey, i researched this for five days, there's three dozen wrong things" ? why, because you hate the world ?
HeySteve: yes 36, not that I'm an expert in spotting scams but it seems clear this is a company to be avoided
HeySteve: no I didn't make up a number, I covered all the data and tallied the red flags as I went
HeySteve: now that time is wasted because arbitrary stylistic reasons which I was never informed of