asciilifeform: which the next gabriel_laddel tries to abstract against.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: and then we are stuck with the pile of hack.
asciilifeform: if gabriel_laddel does not care to listen to asciilifeform's observation, it is strictly his own problem. but here it is, for phreeeeee: you cannot abstract against broken software, with other software. or at all.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: didja sell enough to buy a postbox yet ?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: if you think such a thing is remotely a good idea, and that the crud will not irreparably spill out from under the 'skin', i got a bridge to sell ya.
asciilifeform: because it would not be then necessary
asciilifeform: trinque: if i had a working mussolinic gentoo, i'd never have cooked up 'rotor'
asciilifeform: trinque: nope. i've yet to try mussolating it
asciilifeform: and i don't get any of these mysterious wtf's.
asciilifeform: thus far, every time i sit down and make a gentoo box, more or less ~yearly since '06 or so, it ... works
asciilifeform: trinque: care to document the crater ?
asciilifeform: trinque: pts isn't a gentoo-specific ball of shit
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: if you get tired of having to toggle the nic to autocrossover, get out a pair of scissors and make an actual crossover snake
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: no voodoo here, to turn on the autocrossover you gotta reset the nic. but on sane os this DOES NOT REQUIRE REBOOT omgwtf
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i maintain a delousing spray strictly.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: i just tested the thing i pasted from my notes, on the box i'm presently sitting at, and it did not work. but this latter one - did.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: consider emplacing the thing into the #t subjline
asciilifeform: if gabriel_laddel recently uploaded a commonlisp that doesn't behave like a retarded child when, e.g., socket shits itself 10,000time/sec, i must've missed..?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: i'm fresh out of telekinesis pills, cannot debug your nic...
asciilifeform: trinque: presumably he wants to test with bare hands, etc.
asciilifeform: lel, the victi^H^H^H^H^Hcustomers complain when you don't patch, and when you do...
asciilifeform: and the incidence of such a thing at a konsooomer-friendly price point is ~0.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: there are not so many vendors that patch old shit eternally
asciilifeform: crapple box is quite comparable to a stainless steel prison toilet - it resists whatever attempt at modification, either by user or whatever shitware he syphilitically encounters
asciilifeform: (either until the iron mysteriously fails, two weeks out of warranty, or for decades)
asciilifeform: while crapple box, with its various familiar faults, chugs along more or less eternally in the condition it left the crate
asciilifeform: in practice, typical turdroid box resembles housewife's winblows 98 - crawling with popup maggots, 'mysteriously' slow, bristling with adware, etc.
asciilifeform: VE-2016-1828 in May 2016 without doing a security review of the code in question. In only 20 lines of code THREE codepaths existed that allowed UAF. Apple fixed only one of those paths although the other release() methods were clearly right next to it in the code...'
asciilifeform: hat the PEGASUS surveillance malware was using completely new kernel vulnerabilities to takeover iOS devices and that Apple heard about these problems for the first time mid August 2016. Unfortunately after having reversed what kernel vulnerability has been used by the PEGASUS surveillance malware a completely different picture emerges: The kernel vulnerability known as CVE-2016-4656 was only still in the code because Apple patched C
asciilifeform: in other lulz, 'In the last two weeks many security professionals have praised Apple for reacting lightning fast to the PEGASUS threat that has been actively exploited in the wild. This praise was given because the parties involved kept samples from independent 3rd party researchers and did not reveal any detailed information about the kernel vulnerabilities involved to the public. Without this information the public simply assumed t
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and bleeding'em from outside (for the sake of argument positing that they ~have~ an outside) is available to weak/poor/haremless/etc. ??
asciilifeform: it was re 'let's keep tinyscheme-like thing in l0 and no other x86 progs anywhere'
asciilifeform: it wasn't re 'let's program in x86 asm' , lol
