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mircea_popescu: pigeons wait. didn'
t bitinstant lose the BTC on vircurex ?
MJR_: don'
t know of anyone getting hacked for fiat
mircea_popescu: MJR_ mpex doesn'
t do fiat tho, so it's kinda moot for this problem
MJR_: it is pretty sad that the biggest exchange can'
t handle orders in less than 5 min
mircea_popescu: pizzaman1337 this ain'
t knitting we're discussiong here man.
MJR_: well...last I checked there was only one exchange that hasn'
t been hacked
pgp: yes - with the exception of bitfloor, it doesn'
t seem that these exchanges are run by anyone familiar with how "real" exchanges (and clearing operations) actually work...
mod6: i don'
t think im smart enough for this stuff.
mod6: root servers don'
t keep the same code either, not exactly anyway, this way it prevents a simutaious attack against all
mod6: i couldn'
t possibly remember them all
mircea_popescu: so he couldn'
t do refunds all through february because the devs borked transition to .9
imsaguy: but I don'
t know how often it updates
imsaguy: and they say 'this version isn'
t good after block X'
smickles: ThickAsThieves: but you don'
t have to go along with them
benkay: assuming you don'
t mean btc testnet?
mircea_popescu: that were illustrated by this but aren'
t limited to lage blocks
mircea_popescu: just the puppy eyed idiots don'
t quite get what happened so raw raw we love devteam
mircea_popescu: this seems to be the contemporary brain disease, people reading stuff they don'
t understand here and there, mashing it into a sort of compound
mircea_popescu: Namworld almost everyone else doesn'
t have much to say.
imsaguy: bdb can'
t handle the locking
MJR_: can'
t you change your code in .7 to accept larger blocks?
Namworld: That's new. I don'
t recall that.
imsaguy: and you get stuck and don'
t get any new blocks
imsaguy: so even if you didn'
t allow it, someone else did
Namworld: @smickles: some people even claimed they sticked to an old version specially because of potential such issues with new versions when .8 wasn'
t the source of the problem. If they had switched it would have been an non-issue. We've reverted to accomodate the bug in .7 and not to leave people behind.
Namworld: THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M FUCKING CLAIMING THAT THE ISSUE AIN'
T ON .8!
jborkl_: Yeah, me too- I don'
t like being the first to change- bit me too many times
Namworld: Don'
t you get it? I'm trying to refute people who think the issue is with .8 and that .8 alone should have been tested more...
Namworld: I'm not saying it couldn'
t have been found, I'm just refuting that doing more testing on .8 would have given any result.
Namworld: The issue was in .7, if they tested .8 forever, they'd never have found the issue if they didn'
t use .7 in the testing.
Troic_: it could have been colossal, if the pool ops weren'
t so cooperative
Namworld: It wasn'
t that colossal... just a little forking
mircea_popescu: i don'
t think so. gpumax dissapeared with pirate, as the sane people were saying back in february 2012.
mircea_popescu: the same applies ideologically too. the network won'
t get attacked for as long as it manages to not stupidly offend.
mircea_popescu: sure, irrelevant ventures aren'
t part of the discussion, if bitcoin stays alpacca we're wasting our time with these concerns/
mircea_popescu: pigeons if we shouldn'
t, there should not be call for doing it.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic no. because attacker wouldn'
t know which to attack.
mircea_popescu: BingoBongo have you read the girl's explanation of why multiforks resolve and aren'
t a problem economically ?
mircea_popescu: look, like it or not, for this reason or for some other reason, bitcoin is at a point where you can'
t reasonably pour more moneuy into it
BingoBongo: And mircea_popescu many will probably try to sweep it under the rug as LevelDB is broken, because it isn'
t BerkelyDB. You're on the right track, but I think this was probably the wrong error...
midnightmagic: I don'
t see how a rationale (which Satoshi himself started, btw, by requesting that Wikileaks not use bitcoin yet,) is the snowball accretion of full-blown theosophy.
mircea_popescu: i guess they don'
t read english any better than they read their own code.
midnightmagic: correct, they don'
t. the thing is a lot of them know that, so what do they do? social proof. and they pick a guy (like satoshi) and decide he is the nearest thing to god.
maximian: people who don'
t understand the system… pure speculators
mircea_popescu: well whatever he wants, if you don'
t see it in a day it's prolly been rejected
mircea_popescu: tomorrow it'll be like... what, nothing happened. so what if it's 50. doesn'
t prove anything
benkay: what's this referring to: mircea_popescu: maximian if the idiots hadn'
t put in the 250k limit it would have jhappened and been resolved in 2011
mod6: he's not an idiot. he was very smart, if these new idiots can'
t hack their way out of a wet paper sack, thats not really his fault.
mircea_popescu: maximian if the idiots hadn'
t put in the 250k limit it would have jhappened and been resolved in 2011
dub: was there an alert sent to 0.8? I don'
t see it in .7
smickles: dub: and i don'
t think i said they were responsible, i said they forced the issue
smickles: dub: i can see that we disagree, but i don'
t think the limit should be raised until the necessary txfee is unreasonably high
dub: yes but they didn'
t know that
smickles: dub: we weren'
t hitting the softcap that offten
mod6: im not trying to troll, i don'
t know srsly.
smickles: and the wiki says that electrons can'
t be distinguished even in principle
smickles: the protons can'
t tell one electron from the other anyway
smickles: ya know, there's a chance this band-aid fix won'
t work, the .8 chain looks like it might be going faster than the .7
smickles: the wrong one mined a block which .7 clients couldn'
t see
smickles: mircea_popescu: some arn'
t, the largest pools are
smickles: mircea_popescu: isn'
t it off by about 8 digits?
gesell: Bowjob: don'
t panik, just buy when it all settles
smickles: wasn'
t it over 1500 goxlag the other day
pizzaman1337: well, I can'
t wait to get myself some cheap coins if it drops
mircea_popescu: withdrawals are fine, but prolly people aren'
t doing it just to be safe.
smickles: gsi don'
t think they are processing deposits/withdrawals
mircea_popescu: (course i have the advantaghe that my system is designed so such things don'
t affect me)
vampireb: so what? it isn'
t the end of the world. a minor hiccup
vampireb: well devs dont wanna do qa, and u can'
t really qa your own shit
BitHub: isn'
t that the foundation job? or not really?
BitHub: why doesn'
t the bitcoin foundation use all that money to actually hire proper programmers
evoorhees: Bowjob don'
t be a fool. If you actually saw the devs react to this and remedy it, you'd be very impressed
dub: mircea_popescu: its obvious they don'
t want adoption
mircea_popescu: and then they merge into one that doesn'
t include you being paid.