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Namworld: BTCBOND doesn't pay much
mjr_: but we aren't the only two josh's in the world
mjr_: it won't
Josh_Rossi: because i don't think necessarily that it matters what risks you are taking as long as you are aware you are taking them and honest about them
Josh_Rossi: i wouldn't phrase quite so dramatically
deadweasel: don't mean shit, the whole game could end tomorrow.
Josh_Rossi: but i don't think anyone can say anything bad about it
MJR_: I don't see it as dirty
MJR_: those guys are so busy it doesn't seem like sdice is the main thing on their mind
mod6: You miss 100% of the shots you don't take -- Wayne Gretzky
smickles: mircea_popescu: this also happened that day that he had trouble authing with gribble, so, given that he wasn't willing to sign anything, i had a small bit of doubt that i was even talking with the real evoorhees
MJR_: you can't?
Namworld: aye, too bad I can't sell more.
MJR_: and maybe we shouldn't so much
MJR_: I don't think that they would care much
smickles: mircea_popescu: well, he implied that he either wasn't the sole owner of sdice (outside of S.DICE) or that he would soon become only a part owner and that his word would not transfer to these other owners
mircea_popescu: smickles i don't follow. you outlay what, 50 btc for printing dice on his promise that he'll adverise them if he likes them.
deadweasel: so don't bend over
smickles: so i don't want to do something that puts me in such a vulnerable position
smickles: mircea_popescu: i'm weary about entering into a business with a guy who won't put anything in writing ever
smickles: ya know, i'd be selling satoshi dice dice at satoshidicedice.com right now if evoorhees had given me anything more than an informal statement that he wouldn't sue me for using the brand
unbalanced_away: Jersey Girl wasn't that bad IIRC
MJR_: They say money can't buy happiness? Look at the fucking smile on my face. Ear to ear, baby.
mircea_popescu: unbalanced i don't get it tho. if there's ipo shares left they're in the book at ipo price. you can't buy past them.
unbalanced: I think on past IPOs people bought at the bid/ask and didn't see that there were IPO shares left.
mircea_popescu: i can't make sense of it.
mircea_popescu: unbalanced yeah, well... interesting device. we still don't have enough on how exactly it'd play out to know.
unbalanced: They are trying to do this in a way that won't get them shut down. I hope they do well and grow the market.
ColdHardMetal: Maybe, but speed counts sometimes. I don't really use them often, every 2-3 months. I can use them without having to submit any dox to anyone whcih keeps things simple.
ColdHardMetal: I don't think it's defensible at all. However in my case it's easier than having to go through multiple wires and currency conversions to get funds where I need them, so I just suck it up and pay.
ColdHardMetal: Canadian securities regs aren't far off SEC. I'd be surprised if they aren't in violationalready tbh.
mircea_popescu: 2k a month isn't too bad.
mircea_popescu: can't even argue with him anymore.
MJR_: can't turn your head without it jumping
unbalanced: Won't a big sdice win like that just encourage more desperate rubes to flush their bitcoins away?
smickles: "naw, that wasn't real money, that was a game. Like warhammere 40k"
smickles: isn't it funny that they tell you they are trusted?
smickles: MJR_: you couldn't've known
MJR_: there isn't, my point is it's high time to remember what money is
splnkr: i certainly wouldn't
MJR_: and I don't want to unwind those positions...but and hold strategy
MJR_: to be honest...I don't have a lot of coin
splnkr: i don't see how there's any ceiling
jurov: well, mere "shared space" isn't what i need
jurov: i didn't really got the human interaction i hoped for
MJR_: I guess it is just don't let pretty effects be a crutch or mask poor functionality
imsaguy: be glad I didn't post #2 in the channel
imsaguy: abracadabra: it wasn't address to you
deadweasel: i don't either
deadweasel: i just went to my account, pending transfer from yesterday still stuck. couldn't buy because they'd reached their 'daily rolling limit'
deadweasel: doesn't make for much of a 'base'
mircea_popescu: doesn't seem like worth the bother, but if you've not anything better to do why not
Bowjob: since i've got nothing productive to do but fap all day, and I don't feel like working a min wage
mircea_popescu: tiberiusiv it becomes problematic tho. the poor probably quit already, the rich really don't have a problem of getting fiat
mircea_popescu: when it gets to the point where retired folks see plainly they're riding into a wall and they have no clue you know things won't end well.
mircea_popescu: she just goes on whatever data she has. often that's crap, and when it is she doesn't know about it,.
mircea_popescu: it's the second time she fucked up, incidentally. the closing down of nuclear plants was already indicative. she doesn't think too well.
mircea_popescu: basically they failed to understand the "stolen" money in the oligarchs bank accounts isn't stolen by those oligarchs from the state
jurov: angela merkel can't be *that* stupid.. or she really doesn't have other option
mircea_popescu: i don't think they want any batch 3 customers
mircea_popescu: this won't end well.
mircea_popescu: well a bot could but so far hasn't
mircea_popescu: no, i don't have bitcoin's funniest inbox. bitcoin is just too funny for one single person.
Diablo-D3: it obviously doesn't have all the possible outcomes
Namworld: A statement of the obvious. I prefer when they don't talk.
midnightmagic: Don't worry, it's just because you're a sociopath. I'll care enough for the both of us.
mircea_popescu: sorry i couldn't care more.
mircea_popescu: that's your contention, but it doesn't carry much water with me.
mircea_popescu: can't get too far in life without evaluating people.
mircea_popescu: i don't particularly care. i wanted to know whether it does or it doesn't.
midnightmagic: Like, what do you care whether evidence should or is or isn't updating my opinion?
midnightmagic: You sure don't act like it's not really much. You get worked up over little things more these days than you used to.
midnightmagic: What is your problem anyway? Like if bitcoin is such a source of contention for you, why don't you just shake your head at its stupid inanities (sociopathic community elements included) and move on?
midnightmagic: I just find your hypocrisy growing by leaps and bounds this last while, and I don't understand what's unravelling you.
mircea_popescu: it's an ethical issue, you just don't want to face it.
midnightmagic: Just simple disappointment because I was considering at last doing a trade-in of my Icarus but I don't want them to charge me batch #3 prices.
midnightmagic: I wouldn't call it aesthetic nor ethical objection to a price increase.
mircea_popescu: cause there just aren't that many categories left.
midnightmagic: I don't think you wrote those words.
Namworld: They don't appear universal. Opinions seems to differ greatly on the topic.
mircea_popescu: pigeons i don't recall them asking / me caring at that tiem.
mircea_popescu: actually, if bfl delivering weren't such a moot point, i'd be collecting these rights as we speak and sueingthem into oblivion anyway
mircea_popescu: now, this is how things are. this isn't open to debate, it's long established point of law. you're welcome to challenge it, but it can't be challenged by simple personal exceptionalism.
mircea_popescu: point 2 : any purchase may only be entertained by a seller of an existant item. nobody can sell what they don't own.
midnightmagic: kakobrekla: Actually, channel rules don't supercede explicitly-defined moral rights under the copyright acts of both Canada and Romania.
midnightmagic: Okay go ahead. Also, you don't have my permission to quote anything I've said today.
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Ethical is what's we're talking about here isn't it?
mircea_popescu: you don't have to agree for this to be the case.
mircea_popescu: they claimed they're selling an item, but the item didn't at the time exist. the people "pre ordering" simply made equity contributions.
mircea_popescu: this "you've financed our corp so here's a complimentary biscuit" doesn't really cut it.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic you know, you shouldn't let your preconceived notions blind you so.
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Someone's making money, money is king, except when you don't directly benefit. Then you suddenly grow a conscience?
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: If that is, indeed, what he's done, that sucks. I don't see any evidence for them mining their own hardware (difficulty spiked only on delivery as per users self-reporting,) but then you tend to jump to conclusions a lot (as per your assertion that gmaxwell wanted to steal rich peoples' money, because you didn't grok multisig, for example,) so why let the lack of facts get in the way this time?
mircea_popescu: granted, i don't go by the very superficial approach most people seem to use.
pigeons: wait what did he do unethical? The thing I'm aware of is lying about having shipped when they hadn't
midnightmagic: I don't really care that he's upped the price. With a machine that pays for itself in less than 5 days (with luck) why would he not?
mircea_popescu: this isn't a point of contention.
mircea_popescu: they're all free if you don't overindulge
jcpham: i can't listen anything that person says
mircea_popescu: But I ain't seen any candy.