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trinque: this I think is the value in doing "world-building" work
ascii_field: but i could be wrong.
ascii_field: i happen to think that i do.
ascii_field: see, it is this 'noble' thing that i don't grasp
ben_vulpes: while noble, i do not see much turkey-buying value in pogoquest.
ascii_field: i.e. the thing i made.
ben_vulpes: no i know. but i'm asking you another question of value.
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: i was speaking of neither
ascii_field: where i was trying to say more or less the same thing each time.
ascii_field: and at any rate, i'm not a 'high-performance' anything.
ben_vulpes: "ah fuckit, get out of my way, i'll do it in a tenth the time and it'll be twice as good."
trinque: there are plenty more knowledgable on this than myself, but this is why I ask periodically about smaller components of the thing, if such a thing exists at all
phf: luckily for you today only you can get a new and improved PATCH from me that will at least let you create context, since i only finished it like last night, i don't yet know if it will actually encrypt, but it might
phf: gpgme bindings are broken, since they've not been updated since 2008 or so, i'm surprised they are in the source tree at all
trinque: ascii_field: this is why I spoke of military hardware; it's only valuable if it's a) used and b) the user wins something of value
assbot: You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey.
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: I don't follow. again, as though I were five?
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: the thing i'm trying to figure out is whether i'm smarter than a chicken.
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: don't mind me, i'm just trying to learn the violin.
ascii_field: i have a puzzle for ben_vulpes, who is awake, and mircea_popescu, who might soon awaken, and the rest:
ben_vulpes: aha libgpg-error i guess, derp.
ben_vulpes: phf: where's a sane place from which to procure gpg-error? i've found some text files scattered about the web but nothing in the gpgme lang/cl dir
PeterL: I'm off to get the kids from school, mostly I lurk by reading the logs
trinque: if I have 10 nukes and you have 100 artillery in a fortress, and I nuke the fortress, does a nuke silo spring up in its midst?
ascii_field: i do not know how to make a cpu for 100 people.
ascii_field: i learned this the hard way.
ascii_field: i am deliberately not even mentioning gpu, because it is possible to have a useful computer with no vga board (e.g., you can speak x11 over tcp)
ascii_field: i picked this example out of a tall hat with many others, to demonstrate the impedance mismatch between the lisp way of doing things and pc iron
assbot: Logged on 05-11-2015 01:07:56; asciilifeform: at any rate, i (and $maxint others) will port $whateverthefuckyouwant to, e.g., cray II. for a fee.
PeterL: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=05-11-2015#1316588 << when I was in middle school we went on a field trip to the Warren (MI) Army Tank Plant, tour included the Cray II, cool looking room sized machine with liquid cooling fluid bubbling over its brain ☝︎
ascii_field: i'ma do a worked example for PeterL
ascii_field: that was where i learned to despise unix.
phf: i've been trying very hard for the past 15 minutes to remember its name or anything about it, and even though i spent 8 months with it, i'm completely failing to
phf: of magnitude improvements and that the whole thing is not even funny. he suggested that i do an implementation as an indepedent study for another semester and that's what i did
phf: thestringpuller: it wasn't actually forced. started as a final project in william arbaugh's (the guy who did the smooth handover wireless implementation at umd) class, where we were writing a malloc for the teaching os as a final project, only three mallocs came anywhere near the spec, since mine was one of them i had the opportunity to say that the whole thing was a sham "shit code written by retards", etc. and that you can have orders
lobbes: kakobreklaa: fuckin chanserv << I know what you mean. I had to ghost my nick off earlier
ascii_field: jurov: do i understand, this needs a heavily patched client ?
ascii_field: phf: i tried to explain some of this in last night's thread
phf: ascii_field: my undergrad "thesis" was putting a malloc on a one of those teaching os's, it was interesting in that "wrestling with bare metal" sort of way, but then i learned how lispm does it, and realized that i was lied to
phf: mircea_popescu: i'm just stirring shit up
ascii_field: just no useful i/o.
ascii_field: i have raw scheme going on x64 metal right now
ascii_field: phf: i was trying to see if anyone comes to this conclusion independently of my saying it.
mircea_popescu: punkman kinda what i was proposing, a progressive scale. imo the way i stated it is better pr, but whatevs.
mircea_popescu: i suppose if you prefer i can instead make it a time rule, and be like "bets under 0.0001 are paid in a year. bets under 0.01 are paid in a week"
mircea_popescu: which will come back to me, and i have to sit on it, and create more dust to payout.
mircea_popescu: think that i have to keep SOME dust over here while idiots get aggitated because "o noes it's been 25 hours" so im now creating more dust
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i don't hate'em, but i did search in vain for signs that somebody was ~thinking~ rather than merely piling intel xeons ten metres high
mircea_popescu: currently this CAN work as an extraction engine - it costs me more to make the payouts than i take in.
ascii_field: these last two, i had the misfortune to be involved in.
kakobreklaa: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317035 < i dont see how this fixes your dust problems - you may feel better handling it but you still need to handle it. i suspect you let some retarded algo chose your tx outputs for you amirite? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: boi o boi am i hgonna have a fun
kakobreklaa: nickserv i mean
ascii_field: aww i ~liked~ kakobreklaa
ascii_field: poor old j.c.maxwell gets no rest when this comes up, but i'ma have to use him as example again. he didn't even bother ~trying~ to build a radio...
mircea_popescu: i don't care you sat on your tatched roof in mongolia and thus "dreamed" of skyscraper.
PeterL: I see, if you push the goal posts far enough away then nobody will ever score
ascii_field: PeterL: in so far as i can see from my perch, nothing fundamental has happened in at least a generation.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: my broadcast later tonight when i get out of the pit
adlai: patternspeak for up-and-down. i'm probably misusing it, iirc it's only an eiffel if the down returns to levels before the up
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't think it's worth a crap in absolute terms.
mircea_popescu: <jurov> i tried to sync my 0.5.4 to core 0.11, it won't sync << this is a horribru error message.
assbot: Logged on 05-11-2015 13:23:33; jurov: then i tried to set MIN_PEER_PROTO_VERSION = 0 in 0.11
assbot: Logged on 05-11-2015 13:24:30; jurov: then i returned to 0.10 and left further research for later
shinohai: I can't say for certain until I clone my drive, had to idle it for a bit.
jurov: then i returned to 0.10 and left further research for later ☟︎
jurov: then i tried to set MIN_PEER_PROTO_VERSION = 0 in 0.11 ☟︎
shinohai: I have an old 0.10.0 binary that does.
shinohai: I can't get core to not crash 0.11 xD
shinohai: jurov: I have had same results. it won't sync against new core.
jurov: i tried to sync my 0.5.4 to core 0.11, it won't sync ☟︎
mircea_popescu: random thought of the day : wtf is this "boyfriend" bs. girlfriend i can see, but it's manfriend innit.
asciilifeform: guess what, i don't give milk either.
asciilifeform: at any rate, i must confess that i don't do www or ipnohe for any amount of pay.
ben_vulpes: if you want intros to indenturitude, i can provide this as well.
ben_vulpes: if i find anything, i'll let you know
asciilifeform: i suppose this means that ben_vulpes is also ready to port to supernintendo.
ben_vulpes: d'you know? i only landed my first of those within the past month.
ben_vulpes: i know your rates, and you could live comfortably out here.
ben_vulpes: not eager to do it, i misspoke. eager to spend time in our mines rather than wherever they slave normally.
ben_vulpes: as it stands, he hates the kind of work my shop does, and i have a list of people who also hate the kind of work that we do but also find the company company so beguiling that they're willing and sometimes even eager to do it anyways.
ben_vulpes: well should i need someone to port eulora to ipad i'll ring him up
asciilifeform: eh i do items like 'port $proggy to $toaster'
ben_vulpes: i can always cook up work for people to do on my own tooling.
asciilifeform: i think i met ben_vulpes somewhere
ben_vulpes: re technologies, we do mobile in obj-c, swift (i guess theoretically), java, server stuff in python/django/whatever, ruby/rails/whatever, java/clojure/{it's all algol you know}, and actual web stuff in whatever hodgepodge of html/css and js is already in place or pretty well-curated tools that...abstract over the hodgepodge to one degree or another.
ben_vulpes: i pay technical staff hourly rates such that should staff choose to work a 35+ hour week, they'd make depending on their value to my org ±10% of a bigcorp salary.
mircea_popescu: there should, i imagine, be a way to extract significant cheating out of the fact that we don't intend to support random gunk.
asciilifeform: this is one of the problems i've been fighting with for perhaps a year now.
mircea_popescu: "this very this" lol. i'm not going to even research it. i know it's what the nexus of all diddlery would have to be if i was running the diddle department.
asciilifeform: which is actually how i found this thing at all.
asciilifeform: anyway i'll be the last to cry for tcp.
asciilifeform: reading this thing i - astonishingly - don't feel like i'm chewing on gravel
asciilifeform: i wonder if anybody's ported fabrice bellard's tinycc compiler to this.
asciilifeform: i thought he was dead...
asciilifeform: 'Xv6 is a rewrite of v6 UNIX in modern C that runs on multicore x86 chips. It compiles in a couple of seconds and is trivial to boot up in QEMU. It took me a while to see the genius of Xv6, which is that it is simpler than I would have thought a working multicore OS with shell and filesystem could be. For example, it lacks wait queues and ready queues — in Xv6, both wakeup and scheduling are accomplished by looping over the
asciilifeform: i don't personally expect to see 2019.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: i'm still waiting for the magical 1986 or so of our day, when thinking people stop even recreationally giving a shit about the stuffed shirts << Too late BitBet exists
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm still waiting for the magical 1986 or so of our day, when thinking people stop even recreationally giving a shit about the stuffed shirts
trinque: Trump and Carson practically fist-bumped on stage in that CNBC "debate"; I wouldn't be surprised to see them end up running together