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jurov: SR doesn't exist as an investment
deadweasel: interesting, i didn't realize OIX was 'funded' by the MPOE.Bond. learning is fun!
Bugpowder: tiberiusiv: you have zero experience in MPEx securities. I wouldn't be so confident until you get a better sense of the way things work around here
jurov: p/e isn't the right indicator here. it's considered low risk longer term investment which is rare for btc
deadweasel: Bugpowder, I don't know any better, just trying to wrap my pea brain around it before I started trading options
Bugpowder: unbalanced: Unfortunately I don't think running a fund is actually legal
MJR_: i can't do this anymore...too distracting and fun getting trolled, but have work to do thank god for ignore
jurov: say yourself...whatever amount it won't cross
MJR_: i can't...
MJR_: apparently you don't undeerstand emerging markets AT ALL
MJR_: oh thats right, you haven't done one thing so far that is actually valuable to anyone in this community
jurov: don't lol. they can indeed launder some of the bitcoins disguised as t-shirt operation
Bugpowder: I am hearing a lot about what ISN'T good. What IS good.
splnkr: and the world can't even properly discuss climate change; i don't see that they could execute a destruction of the bitcoin network
splnkr: it's good to be mindful of the risk of BTC going poof due to external factors, but I'm not that worried…woudln't it take a concerted, coordinated global effort to bring it all down permanently? I'm not talking 51% attack here
jurov: well, don't tell this will stay so any extended period
splnkr: ironic, isn't it…Mexicans want USD while a bunch of Americans prefer BTC
jurov: tiberiusiv i agree too. but you aren't telling normal retailers what to do
deadweasel: doesn't matter if it 'seems legit'.
deadweasel: so all T options expire on Friday. But their price is going to vary based on VWAP, which is going up every second I babble here....
MJR_: ugh...i can't get sucked into your trollery today...sorry
MJR_: tiberiusiv: just another day, there won't be articles saying that
MJR_: but my long overnight position worked well, though i got stopped loss and didn't get the top
MJR_: but i didn't buy back in
Bugpowder: I don't think there will be a correction before friday
jurov: if they don't resemble indians, then dunno
Diablo-D3: jurov: speaking indian isn't a useful description
jurov: were you eating at restaurants? cuz slovaks don't give a shit about services
jurov: i don't need move thousands of btcs like these poor silkroaders
jurov: my business is legit, i don't have a problem providing id to bitcoin-central and cashing out at price consistently few euros above market
jurov: tiberiusiv i don't know why you care so much to SR
Namworld: (Assuming they don't trust SR itself)
Namworld: We don't have link off the top of our head for everything, silly you. There's hundreds of BTC businesses.
bgupta: Don't worry.. I am not gonna be playing dice.
jurov: bgupta, if you want moar btc,don't exchange. earn them
bgupta: I don't have a lot of btc, so my trades can easily be absorbed by the market.
Namworld: Although only a few thousands, nothing I wouldn't have been able to repaid.
bgupta: hey, I can't claim to know what btc is gonna do… I have a very small position that I plan to keep in the btc economy..
Bowjob: don't feed him
jurov: just don't give a fuck about convicing some kid
bgupta: they wouldn't have had to sell off much to act as market makers..
bgupta: but also 95% of the community aren't rushing for the exits.. the things that really shook the price back in the day where theives stealing wallets and dumping them for fiat.
bgupta: It's not really shorting if you can't borrow stuff and dump it.
bgupta: ?? I can't find many merchants that take litecoin?
bgupta: The one question I have is if some large entity, gov't or financial, decided to bet against bitcoin, how effective could they be? I mean are there enough available for loan to really do a big short?
toffoo: what's the price gonna do if deposits aren't credited?
Bugpowder: and couldn't cash any more
Bugpowder: mtgox hasn't credited my BTC deposit for 8 hours
Namworld: thank god I didn't short them...
leotreasure: haven't heard back from them yet
unlord: okay, sure, but I didn't buy in 1998
unlord: lol, I thought you just told me it hadn't moved in 20 years?
mircea_popescu: well... i got meetings and shit. please don't break anything.
unlord: mircea_popescu: well I wasn't really into BTC back then
Namworld: The large traders are hardly standing around all day in IRC. They don't even know about it.
Namworld: Well the asks/bids aren't for 1000 everywhere
Namworld: if price doesn't move it's even/small loss
mircea_popescu: btc people just don't like the long term
toffoo: I don't think I've ever seen more than about 6 TH hashing
mircea_popescu: somebody owes but doesn't pay the assumption is they're insolvent.
toffoo: weird how they haven't addressed this pretty critical question
toffoo: what happened to ASICMINER's other 6TH? wasn't it supposed to be 12 TH in the first batch?
unbalanced_: Like the Cyprus "solution", Florida has something similar for foreigners who buy retirement homes: out-of-state owners of Florida property apparently pay higher property taxes than their neighbours. Because they can't vote.
unbalanced_: Bugpowder: just caught up. 80% haircut for "rich" Cypriots (a minority that won't march in the streets) and foreigners (EU/Russian retirees who saved all their lives but don't vote in Cyprus)... oh and Russian mafia, apparently
MJR_: and wasn't it for DEC hardware?
MJR_: if you are very good at linux...you don't have a job because you don't want one, or you are so annoying that no one can possibly work with you...at least in the US
dub: its simpler to think of it like this: Some people use linux as a tool to accomplish their work, som use it because they are tools who don't have a job.
MJR_: its like saying i'll start a new distro but i don't like cp
MJR_: i srsly don't get why not just fork debian and make apt-get do what you want...why create yum and rpl etc
jurov: oh, wasn't debian that fucked the keys? cuz they know better than upstream?
MJR_: don't know about ubuntu...not a big fan
jurov: tiberius isn't war... although produced quite a flood tho
mircea_popescu: sweet, we haven't had a holy war here in like a month.
Azelphur: I didn't hear this, this makes me sad, especially as I'm currently wearing my Ubuntu tshirt
Bugpowder__: I don't think I can legally offer investments outside of that group
MJR_: the most annoying people in the world don't practice what they preach
jborkl: can not rise, because interest rates would go up- then they can't pay the bills- already in a death spiral
jurov: i repeat, bernanke can't get away with not extending credit anymore
Diablo-D3: tiberiusiv: no, if he doesn't do what hes told by the federal reserve board he is fired and replaced
jborkl: so, they don't give a shit
jborkl: they can't stop , or the bond traders don't get paid $20 mil for the year
dub: don't you need an acct on weex to use bf?
ThickAsThieves: I leave you guys for a few hours and you can't even get the price to 80? cmon
KRS1: i don't know enough about this, im still trying to structure my investment
toffoo: but with all the manual movements, pt creatations, etc. you probably won't be able to do anything too fast
mircea_popescu: don't tell me somethingbawful is stupid enough to imagine
deadweasel: oh, my bad. ain't got none.
deadweasel: also isn't AM rather over-valued now that they are paying themselves?
jurov: but it's also warning, don't heed the calls of the sirens :)
jurov: T expire this month , N next
taub: what does the T and N mean at the end of the option names?
deadweasel: i probably can't, Bugpowder_ can.
jurov: but can't he earn more than 1BTC/year, srsly?
smickles: well buy my offerings if mpoebot isn't there
jurov: it didn't happen so often recently, but he's still there
smickles: i didn't think it changed
jurov: or the slave girls can't keep up :)
jurov: yea but wwe can do anything that doesn't have the interface there manually on request
cylta: jborkl: as I know, you can't sell it
cylta: Bugpowder: hehe =) I don't think that I will ever be so self confident, that I will able to make more than 2.3k$ on trading.