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mircea_popescu: so everything starts as gpl, welcomes any sucker foss head to contribute, then "progresses" to
a mit license and hey, maybe apple wants to buy it!
mircea_popescu: but it seems par for the course. all the pimply faced wanna-be bill gates business majors know how to do anymore is cast out
a net for suckers, wait until the rate of catch stops, and then try to spin it off and sell it.
guruvan: you not
a fan of MIT license mircea_popescu ?
jurov: "Secondly, we want to release
a new version of Electrum for mobile devices and tablets. In order to make Electrum available in various app stores (such as Microsoft's Windows Store or Apple's App Store) we cannot keep the restrictive GPL license, as publishing Electrum on some of these stores may break the terms of the GPL."
jurov: "I need your agreement in order to republish your contributions under the MIT license. The reason for relicensing Electrum is two-fold: firstly, we want to make Electrum more attractive to developers looking to integrate lightweight Bitcoin functionality into their systems, and
a more permissive license is helpful in this regard."
BingoBoingo: <ascii_butugychag> but in either case,
a liver largely consisting of scar tissue is not an argument against having had
a liver in the first place. << B.. But Discriminashun, Cundishuns...
punkman: "Postel tarpit (n.) -
A system that has tried so hard to accept all possible input that any change becomes backwards-incompatible"
phf: what's wrong with
a moscato anyway? :o
mircea_popescu: there's
a reason unicode wars (you know, the thing with the integral ?) are mostly around "how to color figurines" now.
mircea_popescu: BUT if the symbol "activist" ran into any trouble... there's
a newly minted "educator" symbol to the rescue.
☟︎ ascii_butugychag: but in either case,
a liver largely consisting of scar tissue is not an argument against having had
a liver in the first place.
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 18:45:40; phf: i've spent most of my college years learning math by sometimes translating problem into sexp and running it inside lisp, to get
a hang of the numeric or combinatoric behavior of the problem. there were parts of the problem that were easier to grok in sexp and then there were parts that i eventually wrote an approximation of latex formula reader for. i don't really have
a clear idea of where the boundry is thoug
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 18:36:12; mircea_popescu: if you're lucky and enough work has been put on doing the transforms that
a function was found. plenty of times the transformation's either not obviously or not at all formalizable.
mircea_popescu: phf to that the obvious counter is that sure, but before you've reached
a point where you can actually speak of it... it's premature to speak of it ?
phf: my impression of traditional education is that when everything doesn't fit in your head, you continue cramming it, until in the flash of insight,
a way of restructuring the tree comes to you. in this case notation allows for
a caching mechanism. somewhere on
a blackboard there's
a cluster of meaning, that you no longer have in your head, because head is full, so having that cluster contain higher density of information allows for
a more
phf: i've spent most of my college years learning math by sometimes translating problem into sexp and running it inside lisp, to get
a hang of the numeric or combinatoric behavior of the problem. there were parts of the problem that were easier to grok in sexp and then there were parts that i eventually wrote an approximation of latex formula reader for. i don't really have
a clear idea of where the boundry is though
☟︎ ben_vulpes: is HOSTALIASES
a thing on linuxen besides ubuntu? v-dns sounds nifty, but i'd like to maintain my own entries.
mircea_popescu: i can if you wish pick
a page of strings theory for you to transform into any other theoretical framweork of your choice. but might as well take
a page of source from gcc and write the lisp.
mircea_popescu: if you're lucky and enough work has been put on doing the transforms that
a function was found. plenty of times the transformation's either not obviously or not at all formalizable.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: <phf> presumably mp disagrees with iverson's "notation as
a tool of thought" paper in principle << i do not. i do however disagree with the theory that tool is substitute sufficient.
BingoBoingo: From the mines: "Page C3 of today's NYT in print: "It's
a good time to be David Bowie.""
BingoBoingo: <ascii_butugychag> philosophy. (not
a dirty word, just maths that haven't been mechanized) << Prolly hard to mechanize "Fear and Trembling"
phf: presumably mp disagrees with iverson's "notation as
a tool of thought" paper in principle
ascii_butugychag: and needs to hold
a MAXIMUM of thought from the page in his head
ascii_butugychag: and yes, e.g., maxwell's equations stated verbally might be more pleasing to
a n00b
ascii_butugychag: philosophy. (not
a dirty word, just maths that haven't been mechanized)
guruvan: agreed BingoBoingo - it was
a long year of much work, and much that's just been tossed by the end of it too
phf: but of course there's tons of companies that have some variation of "breakup my text into individual pictures of letters with precise x/y positioning, for extra points place the nodes in
a random order so that tools like pdftotext barf"
guruvan: thanks BingoBoingo - will be around more this year :) - it's gonna be
a crazy year
phf: pdf is ~plaintext~ container format that lets you encode an hierarchical structure of nodes of type. there's
a handful of standard node types geared towards fixed page layout. there's also
a handful of types that let you embed content, i.e. inline
a binary blob <</Filter/FlateDecode/Length 10>>stream....10 bytes....endstream. latex produces pdfs with intimate awareness of the format's abilities, i.e. sensible plain text nodes that
mircea_popescu: it is also fundamentally why math "is hard". for every non-retarded young adult who believes math is hard you have
a case of
a child who developed his own, highly personal set of shitty symbols, and then never received
a good explanation as to what the difference between his and "everyone else"'s is, so got lost.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: trinque yet the explanation is very simple :
a certain set of brain circuitry is deeply involved in novel thought (about everything, including mathematics) and at the same time refractary to structure.
trinque: if
a guy were trying to understand the rationale behind using dense symbols in mathematics from this conversation, he would fail.
ascii_butugychag: trinque:
a good and necessary thing in mathematics. but i don't want to view them with eyes!
trinque: still no reason put why using words and sexps is
a good thing in programming,
a bad thing in mathematics
ascii_butugychag: this is rather like asking why
a heap of guts is the correct interface for
a surgeon but not
a lover !
ascii_butugychag: trinque: it is
a good representation for directly manipulating ast
trinque: why is sexp such
a good representation for programming but not math
mircea_popescu: <ascii_butugychag> everything you see is 'binary blob', you just happen to own
a convenient interpreter for it << one. ONE.\
ascii_butugychag: everything you see is 'binary blob', you just happen to own
a convenient interpreter for it
mircea_popescu: i'm allergic at the notion of being fed it. i'm niot
a printer.
ascii_butugychag: ps is
a 1980s thing, and was invented for perfectly valid reasons, the malicious bugginess of crapobat etc. are not inherent in it.
ascii_butugychag: trinque: i have yet to see even
a sane implementation of, e.g., mathml.
trinque: so we use our brains and wrap whatever you don't want broken in
a box with the above CSS
trinque: no, I have not read
a book on tex
trinque: CSS has
a "don't pagebreak this when printed"
ascii_butugychag: i own
a printer. and i intend to keep owning
a printer. i like paper. and i don't ever want to see
a motherfucking pagebreak in the middle of an equation.
ascii_butugychag: i have yet to see
a pill against pdf proposed here that doesn't reduce to mircea_popescu's broomstick.
ascii_butugychag: mocsny had examples, e.g., man takes 'viagra', turning cock into
a mechanism, in the sense that you walk into
a forest and are not content to sit on ~any~ old surface, if you are there long enough you start making chairs, polishing the wood, etc
copypaste: it's
a PDF, and it was made by Pinoys, so of course it doesn't copy right
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: dan mocsny had
a spiffy essay on man and mechanism in this sense, but afaik it is lost to history
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag this thing, that we were discussing. seems to me to make the echo sounds typical of
a huge cave, even if we only found
a little hole.
copypaste: thought you guys might get
a kick out of this. i'm reading
a highly contested law where i live (philippines)
assbot: Successfully added
a rating of 1 for copypaste with note: HotWheels / 8chan guy
ascii_butugychag: that's the whole notion of
a mechanism - that it does something quite specific, in
a quite-specific way, that is defined in advance
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag nope. there isn't
a person in every cunt, yet they all work.
mircea_popescu: this happens to be how sexuate reproduction works, also, which makes me suspect it's
a peak behaviour.
mircea_popescu: #b-
a is EXTREMELY liberal in what it accepts, and extremely conservative in who it accepts it from.
mircea_popescu: and an important thing to point out is also the b-
a model.
ascii_butugychag: 'How many problems did you have with hardware compared to OS compared to end-user apps? According to most evidence I got, JavaScript does whatever the hell it wants at each browser. Hardware is not like that. CPUs from the same breed will run the user-level instructions identically or get off the market. Memory-mapped devices following
a hardware protocol for talking to the bus will actually follow it, damn it, or ge
BingoBoingo: PeterL: Well, maybe this is
a job for the indians or Chicoms
PeterL: I have had
a reactor make
a foof sound as it lit fire, not
a pleasant experience (and that was just
a simple combustion of THF, nothing explosive)
mircea_popescu: and i specifically discuss the president rather than the "mayor of the palace" because really, having dagobert cut to pieces in the public place is
a worse stigma on the obnoxious pepin than actually shortening him
a head more would have been.
PeterL: seems like
a nasty chemical to work with
mircea_popescu: and mexico makes for
a much better example, in that direction.
ascii_butugychag: local police are all that presently stand between average u.s. pgp user and
a dhs torture chamber.
mircea_popescu: it would be
a forced mistake for this gendarmerie to appear. and forced it must be.
assbot: Logged on 15-11-2014 00:27:45; asciilifeform: there was
a three-man system
mircea_popescu: ironically... i believe if one were to add up the number of usg agent deaths as evident from prosecution attempts, and then compare that figure with the number of usg agent deaths as reported by the usg for various statistical purposes,
a 10:1 difference wouldn't even be surprising.
mircea_popescu: August 12, 2014 — Armed with an AK-47, ammunition, and propane canisters, Douglas Lee Leguin set
a fire, then called 911 to report it. When Texas officers and firemen responded to the call, he shot at them in order to bring attention to his political complaints. Sovereign Citizen"
mircea_popescu: September 9, 2014 – Eric Frein, an anti-government survivalist, is currently
a fugitive wanted for shooting two Pennsylvania State troopers in an ambush, killing one and wounding the other. According to the State Police Commissioner, Frein had talked about committing mass murder in addition to killing officers. He was recently added to the FBI’s 10 Most Wanted list. General Anti-government
mircea_popescu: this 31 yo guy who together with his 22 yo wife shot
a coupla cops and then got killed.