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mp_en_viaje: well, if they go south you drive over get boxes back. what of it
asciilifeform: irresistible target for 'oops you've been dos'd' etc
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: atm seems that 'fill whole rack' is recipe for 'new piz'
asciilifeform: atm not sure if makes sense to get these
mp_en_viaje: besides, if this works out it finally gives you htat holy grail, of unassailable excuse to stay put
mp_en_viaje: it seems to be the case saving 20 bucks a day is not worth the "own rack" outlay
asciilifeform: 'get the 2u, come back for more'
mp_en_viaje: yes but to get whole cabinet. only full us ?
asciilifeform: a:'how long would take for arin bureaucracy' bmore:'~week'
mp_en_viaje: do they have half or mini racks ?
diana_coman: fwiw I just made my stock email telling them what I want and now sending it around with way less filtering (because there isn't much to filter); I expect there'll be some emails waiting for me tomorrow but dunno if anything positive.
mp_en_viaje: get a coupla c blocks to start with, distinct, and "raid" them.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The news seems pretty broke already.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: appears to be.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it's 'bout 3x less than i expected it'd cost
mp_en_viaje: ration selves is the ~only other commercial version you'll find besides "oh ddos" latech style
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wd. ( yer gonna have to break the news to'em at some pt tho )
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, honestly this sounds like a pretty decent deal.
BingoBoingo back with the 4 1 servers. Oscar ended up walking me out and asking if I'd checked that the IPs were opened back up again some time today.... to the powered down diskless rack. No notice had been provided that the IPs were restored. Told him I'd return and check from the one of the microservers. Will try to do so when I return to fill bags again.
asciilifeform: finally, there is no contract, it's a monthly thing.
asciilifeform: thing is in 1 of those concertina wire forts in bmore. 'expedient' corp. (never 1nce heard of it, but apparently nao monopoly in this fuckhole.)
asciilifeform: ergo, minimal cost to house a single machine running at sustained 10Mb/s (very thin imho) is 150 $ us / mo ( + orctax ) .
asciilifeform: 2u hole costs per se 100 / mo (just mains current an' physical space) , net pipe is on top of this.
asciilifeform: racks are kolhoz, if one buys less than whole rack, a d00d with a camera stands there while you fiddle in it.
asciilifeform: for physical slots, that is, cheap. bw -- less cheap. they want 50 $ (usa) per 10Mb-sustained. ( and in fact boxen get plugged into a Gb/s port , and expected to ration selves , erry 10Mb/s/mo costs 50 , if somehow eat 100Mb/s/mo or equiv. weight, costs 500 ! )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje, BingoBoingo , et al : bmore orcs actually pretty cheap , comparatively . promised written quote later today.
mp_en_viaje: only 20k words today in 800 lines, what, a novel/day
mp_en_viaje: obv if i wanted to pay less i'd have made the award less. i don't, not because "it's what it's worth" (which very eminently isn't, true market value of the item's prolly in the $70-$150 range, depending where you buy it) but because tryina prime the pump, so people can go "hey, we made something out of crumpled wad!", why not.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-09 10:23:54 mp_en_viaje: "sure, most people specializing in serving breakfast for a fee can produce omlets in about ten minutes. but they start with a ready kitchen, which already contains eg eggs"
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 10:42:25 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1943108 << I see your point. fwiw I'd be willing to give a chicken-finding discount once all is said and done
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1943371 << this incidentally was re discount offer.
mp_en_viaje: (in the sense can get job, not in the sense not need money)
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, tomorrow if nothing yields by then, yes.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 11:44:44 BingoBoingo: MP's informative tour writeups suggest all the world is mostly populated by tards of some sort.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1943366 << this is likely. so far outside of costa rica vienna (and to lesser but still palpable degree warsaw) were remarkable in the positive, but no kind of shangri la. they do have the advantage you don't have to be already rich to enjoy, tho.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-08-19 16:36:37 asciilifeform: oook here's an experiment : asciilifeform set up a mirror of the logotron on a cheap heathen host. ( one of the most rubbish hosters known, lulazon's . hence cannot in fact stand up copy of bot there, fleanode bans conns from it unless sslized. but the db is current. )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: as side note, 'horse' prolly belongs in that glossary of yours.
asciilifeform thinks 1 'all the general staff in 1 trench' episode is enuff
mp_en_viaje: yeah, that's the last thing we need, have a proper outage next time.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: are the people where you put your www at all usable ? or only worx when mp_en_viaje's in saddle ? (or not on table cuz 'eggs/basket' ? )
mp_en_viaje: "worse enough" is quite the coinage
asciilifeform elbowed a key and mp_en_viaje's caesar ended up where the front sector camera running image normally is on asciilifeform's left-lower lcd. asciilifeform sees, and goes 'wtf' before realizes
diana_coman: the dc around here are just about as idiotic as last time I looked, at least via email; ie the only dim possibility might be if I get to visit at some point and somehow find some human in there but I'm not giving it many chances and so I can't spend current limited time on this.
BingoBoingo headed out the door finally with the wheels after very IRC/Log heavy start to the day
diana_coman: but I won't put my blog there too, just no.
diana_coman: I've recovered and parked younghands still in Chisinau because I can't keep those guys in #o doing nothing, it's worse enough as it is
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: so far sadly none that I want to try at all; and yes, I've been looking & talking to idiots precisely because I *need my blog* back online already
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, you got anyone shortlisted you wanna try ?
diana_coman: so need a serious whip too or on-repeat
diana_coman: fwiw I don't mind it if anyone actually wants to ride maxim but note that their "uptake" of anything proved indeed 1mm deep; just yest I had to ask *again* for the same thing I had previously asked
BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje> there;s a reason horses are saddled not stitched to rider's groin << This is rather what Pizarro felt like. I have no intention of getting sewn to a working beast of burden again. I can try riding, but I'd rather not get SEWN because "you're already on the ground and we all got bored/spawned/bumbled etc."
mp_en_viaje: there;s a reason horses are saddled not stitched to rider's groin
asciilifeform: the correct way to do ~errything is the way how we did the logger.
asciilifeform: cuz that was -- mistake .
asciilifeform: and ideally yes, not glued to 1 horse again.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: we'll be ridin' them horsies. cuz aint got shortwave net yet.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I do not want to end up in the saddle of another ad-hoc'd together Pizarro indefinitely dependent on a single orc or golem being ridden until they exhaust.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, the last time this preference against riding worked out was https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Siege-alesia-vercingetorix-jules-cesar.jpg
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun think there's any way to avoid riding'em
mp_en_viaje: a boy that's no good might as well be made a horse.
BingoBoingo would much prefer not to be in this species of saddle again
mp_en_viaje: i imagine plenty of horses were in fact produced through the process of 6yo boy "you have to brush teeth, go to school, practice curves" "hell no i won't go"
mp_en_viaje: all that orc's refusal to humanity does is put a human atop him in a saddle is all.
asciilifeform: aite. cuz i suspect it's 'moldavia all the way down'.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 06:28:21 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1942040 << to be clear, i'm not against this or anything. it doesn't solve my problem, but that doesn't mean it can't solve anyone else's.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: do you find it entirely unacceptable to use someone like the moldavian d00d , if someone volunteers to 'cutout' (i.e. pay him and pasture him, on command) ?
asciilifeform: imho e.g. bmore is only good (IF at all usable) for physical boxen to live, where asciilifeform can pasture'em with own hands ; would have to be barking mad to ~lease~ a box there
asciilifeform got call w/ bmoreistan scheduled for 1.5h from nao, to haggle.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Aite, with all this stuff offline I've been feeling like an amputee too.
mp_en_viaje: it really doesn't matter so much where as it matters getting this back online already, it's just too crippling every which way
mp_en_viaje: aite, wouldja mind as part of pizarro continuancy plan getting a shared server ~anywhere online, and bringing the piz shared back online ?
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: all tarballed up just under 14 GB, before tarballing ~35-ish
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, nono i mean re the shared server
asciilifeform raging atm re the apparent depth of the bmore tards' retardation, but will elaborate later
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: I will weight the hole orchestra, but one of the supermicroservers came in at just under 15kg on the scale.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, what sort of weight are we talking here ?
mp_en_viaje: yeah well. hence the earlier talk of darkening.
asciilifeform did not know. 2y ago there still were..
asciilifeform: such that take humans.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: didja know there are 0 in washingtonistan ?!
mp_en_viaje: ideally the next few days, also, dun want this in 2020.
asciilifeform in talks with a bmore machine park, not expecting massive win. but possibly can house sumthing at sumthing resembling a human price.
mp_en_viaje: if anyone turns up a host they wanna try, getting this up for me together with a promise to cleanly move it if/when you move gets me to pay for your first 3 mo service.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, ty, hold on to them a little bit.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje Aite. I've not yet shredded the pre-GPG'd backups anticipating the possibility of such an ask.
mp_en_viaje: yeah, and ima ask people to ad-hoc isp for me now. god damned it.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it doesn't even need to be unusually heavy machine
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, im thinking of just getting a machine
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje already knows that we have backups.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i think he's asking re 'when the fuck can thewhet et al be standing again asap'
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Every shared hosting customer's home directory and databases are being uploaded to trinque's deedbot box now as gpg encrypted tarballs.
asciilifeform: alternatively colo hole and the actual uy1 to be placed there. ( but this latter, slower )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: there is ! i.e. get heathen machine, and unroll the backup to it.
mp_en_viaje: is there some way the orig pizarro shared blog box can be mirrored ?
asciilifeform: i'm still not 100% convinced that it was stupid. even if erryone is too weak.
mp_en_viaje: and i had you & all also quit with the fucking queues. because they're stupid.
mp_en_viaje: on the exact contrary.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: for some reason i thought you had'em write into a queue always
mp_en_viaje: so many excellent solutions delivering in the end nothing but an entrenchment of some kind of the exact thing i was trying to stamp out in the first place.
mp_en_viaje: or what, "hey, instead of sucking my toes & finding whores / palaces to hang out with, i'll pay for hotel rooms so you can sit and nerd out, find new hosts, install mp-wps, all that" ?