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mp_en_viaje: i get we're basically getting scammed by the duplicitous nature of the lazy, and will be, forever. cuz that's how the world goes, that's how laziness survives as a survival mechanism in the first place. but i'd much rather we understand each other on the topic, than it just proceed on my authority and then whatever, ten years later it'll be "mp just shouldn't have paid all these asshats" or who the fuck knows what (priorly seen) nonsense.
mp_en_viaje: so... i think it's high time we have a conversation about it, and a l1 consultus on the topic, and so forth. what, exactly, is the negrated to get from the republic ? and why ? and wherefore ?
a111: Logged on 2013-11-13 21:06 Bugpowder: I lost enough for a few teslas on JD though
mp_en_viaje: whereas the 10`000 the republic made him in the same fucking interval out of a piddly 1 he accidentallied in there is... you know, not enough. too much trouble. and also blablabla yadda yadda & "people themselves".
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 05:51:56 snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 21:06:04 lobbes: indeed, is a scam. I fell for the 'well, my mortgage will be a fixed cost vs rising rents' thinking, but neglected to factor in cost of maintenance, rising property taxes, whathaveyou
mp_en_viaje: until that time comes, it's the optionality show on days of his lives channel, no problemo. like for instance he could... what could he do ? he could never miss a day of tv, or jury duty, or sucking dick at the airport, or whatever the fuck else (by which "else" i do mean ~same~) they do in the zone.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 03:28:41 mircea_popescu: the matter SIMPLY CAN NOT BE IGNORED : if back in 2017, ie the very month that article came out, joe bloe took out the 20-50k in debt he could and liquidated the 20-50k in assets that he could, converting it to bitcoin at a monthly average $1k, he'd be looking now at either 400k to 1mn in cold hard cash, or else something like 1-1.5mn worth of liquidated assets, if he sold during the peak. (and not AT the peak,
mp_en_viaje: years later, when it turns out they really weren't, as it happens ALL THE FUCKING TIME, with ornery regularity... then it's suddenly weasel time. we were good friends all along, right ? he just took a nap while we carried, what's the problem.
mp_en_viaje: however i'm also getting prety sick of all this self-uppity cuntery whereby douche "gets upset" at mpex/republic/the world. as if there even CAN BE such a thing as "upset at the totality of existence".
mp_en_viaje: now back on the record here : i have absolutely no intention of reinstating his mpex account. that ain't happening ; but that aside i also have no problem paying, in principle. god knows i've been paying loads of these, and what's a hundred btc or whatever, who even cares about pennies like that (right ?).
mp_en_viaje: i suggest you find a lord willing to speak for you, because i'm not interested in hearing what else you have to say. pick a limber one, too, you sure can use the help (and whoever you are -- make sure you get paid well, and in advance. pantsuits love their zone so much, let them have what they like, it's the least you could do for them).
mp_en_viaje: you shouldn't even be able to speak here ; coincidentally nobody could be arsed to plug the particular hole, it wasn't deemed that high a priorty, but that doesn't mean you have thereby acquired some kinda license to abuse.
feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/2019/sunt-un-orb << The Tar Pit -- Sunt un orb, a piece by Horaiu Mlele
BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-15#1955471 << The export tax seems to be a supreme admission of poverty. If they don't do it all of the garbage they produce will leave. ANd they they will have none
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-10 12:10:44 BingoBoingo: Reading the ongoing conversations in the forums and castles, I get a building suspicion that further cutting on Gentoo is going to start looking like cutting on CrystalSpace
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-10#1954760 <-- certainly looks like a spin on greenspun's rule: any system that amasses enough complexity (for some values of "enough", at least) becomes a contender for the "operating system" label. imho emacs, wp, cltrons all fit in there.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-09 11:54:20 dorion_road: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-07#1954458 << I'd tend to agree with the suspicion. First I think it'd be helpful to know the cost of acquiring TMSR bootbable hardware. Defining was TMSR bootbale hardware means and listing the 'known good' board that are already supported by coreboot or similar would be a good start.
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-09#1954632 <-- I'm certainly looking at that, wanna sample some items for both daily use and testing. the apu1 seems like a good candidate
spyked: !Qlater tell dorion_road in UEFI study/review news, I'm behind with all my tasks on the subject. I'm slowly getting back on track this week, aiming to have a report published by monday the 23rd
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-10#1954731 <-- I've been all good for the last week, but I got caught up in meat works (finding new apartment and starting to move, mostly) just when I was about to catch a breath. unfortunately breathing's gonna have to wait until the end of the month.
mike_c: I pulled a MPEX statement in november, but post-dividend I have not been able to (getting the 'Unrecognized signature. Please email your public key first.')
mike_c: having been there a couple of times myself, I empathize.
mp_en_viaje: in other lulz, holy shit "red 2" is a crappy movie. what the fuck were these people even smoking, you wanna talk of deplorables, this set of singer-songwriter vhs-america hanger ons is the stiffest contender. who the fuck is dean parisot even, wtf.
mp_en_viaje: who the fuck taxes ~exports~ anyway ?! this might be the dumbest thing i ever heard, everyone's ~subsidizing~ exports, the euros give a >20% tax break with their whole vat scam, the chinos prolly more though it's byzantine, these idiots actually TAX it ?
mp_en_viaje: meanwhike in dead things, http://vagendamagazine.com/2015/07/we-need-a-lie-down-2/
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-14 15:04:52 trinque: back to the subj, what does a europac bank need, in your experience?
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-14#1955410 << it's surfing, exactly. without an actual navy ready to bombard, 1800s gunboat diplomacy style, a bank's as meaningless as "a jet engine", or "a liver". they don't do anything by themselves.
mp_en_viaje: and so on in this vein, yes us is confronting a "crisis of confidence" in the sense of complede decredibilization -- but it's purely political, not monetary ; and its underlying is mindblowing military weakness, not industrial inefficiency. not that the latter's absent, but phenomena are driven by what they happen to be driven, not by the larger or most visible element. peo
mp_en_viaje: the principal problem with the approach is that the guy is a radio personality, his statements are never that i've seen structured enough to constitute meaningful prediction. they're closer to statements of sentiment, and the value of sentiments depends chiefly on what your sentiments for the sentiment-er are. if it turned out nancy pelosi loved you deeply what'd it pay ?
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-14#1955407 << this is actually a pretty accomplished description of the problem.
mp_en_viaje: in the same vein i suspect bison is massively suboptimal wrt algorithms chosen, elegance of implementation, length, pretty much everything. would prolly greatly beenfit from a rewrite.
mp_en_viaje: i get it, thing comes with supposed full sources that supposedly build ; i don't know that anyone worth any confidence even tried to in the past however many years. it's still building the wrong way, what the fuck os-awareness of power button. whole fucking point of even having a power butto nin the first place is to have an ALTERNATIVE control mechanism to the operating system.
diana_coman: I don't really have anything to offer as a counterargument to that.
diana_coman: he'll end up doing a 3rd regrind of that genesis but once he does it, I'll sign and mirror it.
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2019-12-14 diana_coman: jfw: I went through your keksum proggy and it's been quite a pleasure really; a few nitpicks on top of those: 1. why default/fallthrough on "bad option" instead of the more useful help option? 2. you have nicely \t everywhere except in usage_err in main.c where it's \s 3. just out of curiosity re
dorion_road: trinque I'll circle back to that in a bit, talking with diana_coman in #o
trinque: back to the subj, what does a europac bank need, in your experience?
trinque: this isn't an insult btw; I've been a part of several that did.
dorion_road: the ceo and cto of coinapult spun off a development company and I did some consulting with them, but they didn't finish the software they started and I transitioned to work with jfw.
dorion_road: in 2013 I met evoorhees in Panama, and took a job with Coinapult in 2014 to run customer service. I did some business development and got exposure to qa for the ~year that lasted.
dorion_road: yeah, it was fun and I learned/grew a lot. can for sure think of worse ways to spend one's 22nd and 23rd years.
dorion_road: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-13#1955315 << I shared a bit in #o a couple months back, and have some overdue articles to publish detailing, but the short is I worked 2 years for euro pacific bank, a start up at the time.
dorion_road: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-13#1955313 << yeah, a while back and it made its impact on me. probably due for a re-read here sooner rather than later though.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-13 22:23:32 mp_en_viaje: but even leaving aside how a good wot means more access to capital than any fiat bank arrangements can provide -- the ideological structure well protects him from 1 and much helps hiom with 2, by supporting strong partnerships.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-13 22:20:10 mp_en_viaje: his saving grace is that his clients are in fact very similar idiots in the relevant aspects, which is why i said well targetted. that's the key to success, always find a group of such idiots that, ideally, don't even realise it.
dorion_road: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-13#1955299 << right, we start of with a clear offer, "hey, this is what you can gain from working with us," but are open to more custom deals if it makes sense.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-13 22:17:31 trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-11#1955056 << it's hard because the flow of money through your business determines the shape of your product, which is to double down on what I said above. skillfully done, you accumulate a generally useful set of tools and the job gets easier, til eventually it's more of a product play than consulting
dorion_road: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-13#1955296 << that makes a lot of sense. processes and tools are being built in this first stage. for exmple, we have exercises/problem sets after working with these first clients. that's a product we can tweak/adjust/refine moving forward, but a lot of the work is done.
dorion_road: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-13#1955279 << systemd now, what, a couple million lines of C ? 'open source', i.e. shit that's not microsoft.
dorion_road: ah, right. that's a big shortcoming of Gales, didn't use V from the start.
trinque: dorion_road: it's more a comment that "why isn't your patch a vpatch atop the gales genesis"
dorion_road: trinque those are the packages in gports. some have patches by jfw. a task for tmsr.os is to list all the dependencies for the implicit clients. so many of those in that Gales gports list may not make it in tmsr.os.
dorion_road: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-14#1955357 << I think the source tarballs are available on the mirror. A problem with not publishing has been this source distribution is only being worked through now. I'll let jfw comment further.
trinque: at any rate one of you has a beard almost as awesome as mine.
trinque: at any rate, I consider myself heard on the hubris cycle, and I've already committed to a few bile-soaked pieces on linux and other things.
diana_coman: and just to be on the clear side: it's not against "loudly saying X is foolhardy", not at all; if it's not clear though, I'll give it a rest.
trinque: it's idiotic to equate "this man is loudly saying X is foolhardy" with "X man is a bitch" every time it comes up.
trinque: diana_coman: I'm not going to do the "hurr, be a man and toil in this mountain of boy's cumsocks" thread again.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, well yeah but i mean, before it fails all pig iron's perfectly respectable. after, you find out it had a bubble.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-13 22:11:41 mp_en_viaje: i dont know, man. from where i'm sitting, and i'll readily admit i'm not some sort of linux scholar over here, it seems to me torvalds came in two decades ago on a sorta-kinda wishy-washy platform, and a bunch of perfectly respectable men went with him because well, sorta-kinda wishy-washy is better than nothing, and because being an engineers they didn't know better. they were, so to speak, pre-headfucked by pant
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-13#1955265 - maybe it's something specific to the 3d block there that messes it up though it's not all that likely (if for no other reason than the basic 1. at first it worked 2. it still works as a separate footnote); anyways, I don't think it's worth the time right now to chase it fully.
mp_en_viaje: if the whole of argentina spent 5mn last year its a wonder
mp_en_viaje: it's a fucking excel, what. they all are.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-11 04:37:25 trinque: so dorion_road, is the idea that there's a tmsr stack upon which what, systems are built for these folks holding piles of database money?
trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-11#1955059 << database money is me being a hipster instead of saying "accounting"
mp_en_viaje: but even leaving aside how a good wot means more access to capital than any fiat bank arrangements can provide -- the ideological structure well protects him from 1 and much helps hiom with 2, by supporting strong partnerships.
trinque: this because burn-rate, also labeled its opposite, a positive, because it justifies a higher valuation, somehow.
mp_en_viaje: and a distant 2, the cost of payroll.
mp_en_viaje: his saving grace is that his clients are in fact very similar idiots in the relevant aspects, which is why i said well targetted. that's the key to success, always find a group of such idiots that, ideally, don't even realise it.
trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-11#1955056 << it's hard because the flow of money through your business determines the shape of your product, which is to double down on what I said above. skillfully done, you accumulate a generally useful set of tools and the job gets easier, til eventually it's more of a product play than consulting
trinque: that's a better bridge from protestantism to gentooism than I could've built.
mp_en_viaje: i dont know, man. from where i'm sitting, and i'll readily admit i'm not some sort of linux scholar over here, it seems to me torvalds came in two decades ago on a sorta-kinda wishy-washy platform, and a bunch of perfectly respectable men went with him because well, sorta-kinda wishy-washy is better than nothing, and because being an engineers they didn't know better. they were, so to speak, pre-headfucked by pantsuit agitprop, like cult-r
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-10 18:39:12 trinque: dorion_road: ftr I have no problem with trying out your thing and offering critique either. I do have a problem with armies that don't eat, so I'd love to hear how you plan to sustain the effort necessary to maintain an OS.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-11 04:13:36 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-10#1954813 << they're doing a consulting gig, it's somewhat detailed on his blog, he even has a business plan / some description of actual sales activity in there.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-11 03:56:53 trinque: but gentoo's a piece of shit. if it's not apparent why, I'll definitely have to say why.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-10 22:27:34 trinque: I'm going to write something on why eating a product of socialists is stupid, and if we must eat shit, eating the least shit is the move.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-10 22:34:51 trinque: dorion_road: ftr I have no problem with trying out your thing and offering critique either. I do have a problem with armies that don't eat, so I'd love to hear how you plan to sustain the effort necessary to maintain an OS.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-11 16:59:12 dorion_road: trinque mind clarifying which you mean though ? the article about trying out Gales and offering critque or on why eating a product of socialists is stupid ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-11 04:45:58 mp_en_viaje: so specifically trinque is this feasible iyo ? and everyone else also, is an hour too short a time ? other comments ?
diana_coman: I fixed the issue though it's rather weird: for one thing I distinctly rememvber it was *fine* ie all of it in a footnote so not sure what/when broke, ugh; for the other, I had to split it into 2 footnotes - it was *fine* to take 2 <blockquote> spans but not the 3rd? wtf is this.
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2019/12/13/a-walk-among-the-trees-of-v/ << Ossa Sepia -- A Walk among the Trees of V
mp_en_viaje: basically "we're imploding, the dnc is never getting another seat in the house, let's go out with a bang" kinda backfired as an exit strategy.
mp_en_viaje: bwahahahah what a fucking week
mp_en_viaje: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-serbia-china-police-idUSKBN1Y21PK << "in an exercise at a Chinese-owned steel mill outside Belgrade."
mp_en_viaje: transparently a "russkis couldn't protect you ; we will" demonstration, made all the more evident by the eurohag stance on it (ignore, rather than whine. whenever daddy's present the "liberated" cunts magically forget all the bullshit they have at the ready in all other circumstances)
BingoBoingo: At the same time China's floating a free-ish trade agreement with Uruguay's next government, yet to be published. I suspect the aim is among other things... to cut out the Miami based re-shippers.
BingoBoingo: God bless china buying all the New World food stuffs. I suspect Buenos Aires is prepping to do another run of export controls on beef now that their production's sorta recovered a decade later.
mp_en_viaje: from "sex & the city" to "an apple a day's a dream faraway" in pretty much one short generation, huh. what wonders socialism hath wrought!
mp_en_viaje: nothing quite like a little bit of reality crash, if experience's any guide.
mp_en_viaje: but, yeah, the "great victories" in afghanistan, iraq etc have resulted in what looks like a whole-north-africa caliphate in the making.
mp_en_viaje: in other news, isil is evidently moving to a nuke. taking sahel uranium mines since summer ; the iranians are quite unhappy with the subsidy level so it looks like this is their "we'll do it without doing it" approach, transfer tech to isil.
BingoBoingo: "If you don't have a scolding old crone one will be assigned to you"
mp_en_viaje: or break a nail or something. there's so much more futuro awaiting, it;d be a pity if any of them missed any of it.
mp_en_viaje: seems about as fake as "industry" or "economy", a putative imagined item, i'm supposed to believe "everything's online" just like i'm supposed to believe 0-value items are "an industry"
mp_en_viaje: except for the part where it's unclear such a thing as society exists, past 90s.
BingoBoingo: Allowing them to defect back to society in the late 70s and 80s was a mistake.
mp_en_viaje: v for vendetta (the original, 0-circulation pulp) was actually a by-product of radical labour core attempting ideological supremacy.
mp_en_viaje: they have some history as a lolcow really.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: They don't. Labour forgets that they are the local "Regime change in Iraq" party which was a great way to fuck themselves into nothing as a "left" pantsuit party.
mp_en_viaje: "does the labour party even have a right to exit ?!" no, it very well fucking doesn't.