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diana_coman: I suppose I should rather be grateful that they are dead and so don't get to see indeed how it is there, really.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: do you mean it's not the effect of the Dark ages but the cause? I don't quite see it tbh.
diana_coman: and what truly gets me is this memory (that doesn't even seem to be just mine alone/specific to me) of that great-grandfather who hung on to life just to get to ask the guy coming back from the first trip to the US "how is it there,really?"
mircea_popescu: not that hanbot_abroad doesn't make >50% of all the sushi we eat by now, but holy hell
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, what the fuck, so im gonna make my own boot atelier, produce locally everything, clothes made in the house, have my own pizza oven... do you realise this is EXACTLY what created the "Dark" ages, all the lords retired to their latifundiae and made everything there on slave labour ?
mircea_popescu: they fucking reconstructed it, except of course improved by experience. who the fuck do we shoot now!
diana_coman: but apparently they are not at this stage yet/too much fat still to get there or dunno.
diana_coman: I got the other part - which in hindsight proved good training at least - ie if you want something, you gotta do it yourself or forget about it!!
mircea_popescu: pretty much certain it's what got ceausescu shot, in the end, a hundred thousand people with a thousand memories each of "my friend Q, place W, year R ; my friend T, place Y, year U" and so on.
mircea_popescu: but by now, "the west" is exactly in that fucking position, "oh, this is the pizzeria, you can't have some pizza, oh that was the steakhouse where i was gonna take my friend as he was leaving, well... there was a queue so we ended up not going, that'll be our memory of our parting in year Z, how we were gonna but didn't because the regime is a piece of shit"
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: well, only earlier this morning it dawned on me that yesterday's idiot would have been quite at place at a party meeting so yeah.
mircea_popescu: it couldn't be, in 1985 cluj, a case of "come meet me at X for Y". it always had to be "[unless they're out]" as a coda. unless theyre's a [too long] queue, etcetera.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, you know, reading your boys' things, the most striking lulz is the creeping in the usian socialist republic of the traditions of the romanian socialist republic. do you recall how utterly infuriating for the general population it was, in the 80s, the constant need to have all social arrangements dependent on the very flimsy supply arrangements of the bankrupt & dysfunctional state ?
mircea_popescu: in short, my trivializing, oral style's built out of a whole lotta scholarship, not out of a whole lotta triviality.
mircea_popescu: when trilema produces something that matches whatever formal pattern, say "oh fuck that ulysses, his boot's untied" it does so in a certain context, with generally careful handling of the negative space, which you (along with lots and lots of other people -- including on occasion <a href=http://thewhet.net/2019/01/perambulating-mp-pretense-vs-pretense/>experts</a>) are quite apt to miss ; yet it's the determinant of correc
mircea_popescu: whaack, you did produce grammatically correct trash. i can readily see whence the temptation comes, but what you have to take on faith (lacking as of yet the capacity to for yourself distinguish) is that the various "similarily looking" trilema articles substantially aren't at all similar.
mircea_popescu: in other tidbits : von moltke, who was born in the year 1800 and therefore technically qualifies, is thereby the only person born in the 17th century whose voice was recorded and therefore can be heard today : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OythrZ5_sdQ
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'd very much like the redirect-unvoiced functionality already, also.
diana_coman: well, they are very good at pretense otherwise so they can ...pretend they haven't found anything, right? what is this, half-assed pretense only?
mircea_popescu: yes, but they lived looking.
diana_coman: well, they *did live* somehow until they found me, right? so... it's possible!
mircea_popescu: in any case there is quite literally no alternative whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: in one form or another. most likely, in the anal childhood form, obviously.
mircea_popescu: there isn't actually any shortage. the world outside the gates is actually so intractably boring & pointless, it's pretty much necessarily as well as universally the case 100% of all available activity will pour into the republic.
diana_coman: myeah, I know; I admit that one hand I really didn't believe anyone was so dedicated to my chan and on the other hand I also did not quite grok the extent of disconnect that people can somehow live with.
mircea_popescu: i mean, you can "ban", but the ban's gotta specify something, and whatever it specifies will be an arbitrary, user-selected string, such as ip or box name or w/e
mircea_popescu: the problem with irc is that if you've actually got a dedicated moron, there's no good way to keep your log from filling with crap otherwise.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: that's a good point, so I'll do just that, thank you.
mircea_popescu: can also set others to be able to voice people
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, you know, obviously the correct solution is the correct solution ; but ad interim you can set your chan to +m anyways, and then voice whoever you personally want, manually.
mircea_popescu: mmm, a yeah, that was on the list wasn't it.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-13 21:58:12 trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-11#1954934 << I've meanwhile reviewed the article http://trilema.com/2019/the-contemplated-update-to-the-trilema-voice-model/
diana_coman: trinque: #ossasepia got so famous and loved that I have dedicated idiots wasting time and space so I really need it; spring is almost here, so will it get done?
diana_coman: trinque: any chance of having the voice model in #ossasepia?
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deedbot: diana_coman updated rating of jfw from 2 to 3 << sysadmin; Gales; JWRD; my pageboy; writes at http://fixpoint.welshcomputing.com
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deedbot: diana_coman rated d41r -2 << alias for c0ncord, hence the same man-alone saving the world through coding while hiding under the bed.
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ossabot: Logged on 2020-02-03 20:11:06 mod6: I fully agree, mailman is a ancient artefact back from, probably literally, the pre-september internet days. Yes, it's quite, well, frustrating to say the least.
trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-02-03#1957846 << and it just keeps going. pre-september is a reference to the internet-before-AOLification, and in this same breath "ancient artefact"
ossabot: Logged on 2020-02-03 19:52:30 mod6: For me, I've always liked the mailing list. It's cumbersome, and it's had it's pain points in the past. Everyone, at one time or another, has had a problem getting things stuck in its queue, etc. However, when it works, it does work pretty well. I like how it checks the WoT on submission, has an archive, and we can all go back and look at it years and years later.
mircea_popescu: iirc some really idiotic copy/paste construction like "more than {x} years" resulting in "more than 1 year"
mircea_popescu: hanbot_abroad, that's for sure one of them. however, there was a more recent, not directly bitcoin related, egregious example which literally claimed ONE year.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-02-07 09:56:20 mircea_popescu: incidentally BingoBoingo do you recall wtf it was, some derpy website for copy/paste "software" or somesuch, that proudly announced how it's for professional experts by professional experts WITH OVER ONE YEAR OF COMBINED EXPERIENCE ?
hanbot_abroad: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-02-07#1957987 << top shelf withering gaze!
BingoBoingo: His stature indeed appears to have supported his high claims of Solomonic descent.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I don't know that absolute or relative bigness is a necessity for exhausting Italians.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, this'd be a good theory, except of course ethiopia is very small by african standards. about the same population as the region of lazio at the time, like 10mn.
BingoBoingo: Kinda the only winning strategy for Africa. Throw bodies at the problem, keep taking losses which are actually a win until the other side exhausts. Solve two problems.
mircea_popescu: anyway, they rather sound like the serbs ; which would be surprising except of course for the part where they're deeply orthodox. just like the serbs.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, in practice they kinda got defeated in all engagements, just wore down the flimsy italians through sheer numbers. very unlike the boer fucking up the brits right and proper a half century prior.
mircea_popescu: survived the italians which are totally european, didn't survive the redditards, which are just as totally european as the redditalians
BingoBoingo: Socialists had a coup. The depose 80 year old had health problems as folks his age tend to. Still too much of a perceived threat to their more equal Africa and...
hanbot_abroad: oooh right, this guy!
BingoBoingo: That's the whole of the Rasta thing. "An African beat Italy which is totally European. We've won"
BingoBoingo: hanbot_abroad: Some cult formed around a cardboard cutout of him. They smoke weed and listen to Bob Marley.
hanbot_abroad: mircea_popescu i guess medical tourism is a main appendage ofze devil then
mircea_popescu: how not to like him ?!
mircea_popescu: "Hence, without cooling your heart of accustomed valour, there emerges your decision to fight fiercely, mindful of your history that will last far into the future… If on your march you touch any property inside houses or cattle and crops outside, not even grass, straw, and dung excluded, it is like killing your brother who is dying with you."
mircea_popescu: "If you withhold from your country Ethiopia the death from cough or head-cold of which you would otherwise die, refusing to resist (in your district, in your patrimony, and in your home) our enemy who is coming from a distant country to attack us, and if you persist in not shedding your blood, you will be rebuked for it by your Creator and will be cursed by your offspring. "
mircea_popescu: so the italian dorks are playing empire in his ancient land ; dude fancies himself a descendant of the fucking queen of sheeba in a direct line. therefore he issues a proclamation :
mircea_popescu: in other historical news, the strangled salassie's one helluva sassy.
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mircea_popescu: ah there we go, meanwhile actually found the piece i was looking for. niciodata...
mircea_popescu: the pestilence even reached romania ; these fucktards who really have no good cause to survive managed to squeeze a few "OLD STYLE barber shops" in between the slot machine/"sportsbets" nonense and the "fuck my wife, two for one" establishments/courtyards.
ossabot: Logged on 2017-10-02 15:09:36 mircea_popescu: sadly the story behind that is that denni parkinson was there with HER BOYFRIEND, who's some photog there to shoot some bs about branson's hobby (some kind of new and improved surfing)
mircea_popescu: yeah bitch, totally, that's exactly what i mean, you waterskyiing with the photographer's girlfriend on your back.
mircea_popescu: a beard, "you mean this thing overprocessed to look like groucho marx glued something on ?"
mircea_popescu: by the time the "oh, fu-xi could mean anything, shrimp fucks the cowboy leg is on the menu because literally, our chinese mother tongue does not have any actual meaning" dorks of the future turn their drones to "recreate true europe", it'll be the faux ustaridian "nobody can accuse it of not being europe" ersatz that's all that's left.
mircea_popescu: fucking self-falsification, is the infuriating part.
BingoBoingo: Nevermind Myspace lost all of their shit during one of its zombie reboots, Instagram Immortality!
BingoBoingo: Just going through motions for social media.
BingoBoingo: I don't know that they even impress each other. Too solipsistic, they seem to just be trying to win tourmament markets that don't even have prizes.
mircea_popescu: i dunno who the fuck it's supposed to even fool ; then again, apparently the last people to have ever had any money, taste, sense or experience died with the millenium. so i guess the fucktards impress each other. it's gotta be, because otherwise the insanity is inexplicable enough -- it's fucking evident they don't ENJOY any of it, protestations to the contrary notwithstanding (or rather, pleading against their case)
mircea_popescu: and, of course, bdsm. and all combinations -- including the typical 50yo moron with a "slave" who's a 20something female doing "rituals", such as inane bullshit where she "swallows the ashes". and so on in this theatrically tedious vein.
mircea_popescu: cigars suffered some under the onslaught as well.
BingoBoingo: Yeah, community colleges, US military bands, etc do these tours telling kids there are careers in the field of making noise in "cafes"
mircea_popescu: fucking intolerable. this, and the pretense 2010s "conaisseur of foods" revival, with their vomit of wine and cheese and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: just about etsy for well to do jewbois, aha.
BingoBoingo: The Jazz zombie today's a sort of extension of the higher ed bubble's "follow your passions" derpery.
mircea_popescu: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/Avishai_Cohen_2015.jpg/1024px-Avishai_Cohen_2015.jpg << and then the objectionable jewtard himself. how fucking hard could you even be trying, judas fucking christ, with the faux beard and everything, they don't know what a cabotine is in the new york jewish community ?
mircea_popescu: what the FUCK, jazz in the past three decades ? this is like mc cain's love of his life (for the past 9 months). dude's been dead for a year.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-02-07 09:56:20 mircea_popescu: incidentally BingoBoingo do you recall wtf it was, some derpy website for copy/paste "software" or somesuch, that proudly announced how it's for professional experts by professional experts WITH OVER ONE YEAR OF COMBINED EXPERIENCE ?
mircea_popescu: And then, of course, the first hit, JAZZIZ Magazine [Search domain www.jazziz.com] "For more than three decades, JAZZIZ Magazine has been covering the music scene, documenting innovations, charting industry trends and following the artists whose lives so colorfully inform our own. The award-winning JAZZIZ Magazine is your one-stop destination for entertainment in
mircea_popescu: transparent in various sizes." cuz totally, that's what I'll do with a... water bottle.).
mircea_popescu: and i ask because... wtf, fucking ridoinculous nonsense! Look for them online, it's an ad at the top (for discountmags.com, "Jazziz Magazine - Check Out Our New Low Price"), one on the side (this one for "redbubble.com", "JAZZIZ “Redemption”" by JAZZIZ " -- yes, including the BROKEN crapsoft quotes -- "Millions of unique stickers ready for laptops, water bottles, helmets, and more. Get up to 50% off. Glossy, matte, and
BingoBoingo: Off the top of my head, I do not though it sounds incredibly familiar.
mircea_popescu: incidentally BingoBoingo do you recall wtf it was, some derpy website for copy/paste "software" or somesuch, that proudly announced how it's for professional experts by professional experts WITH OVER ONE YEAR OF COMBINED EXPERIENCE ?
mircea_popescu: there's self-evidently no reason such a thing as an alleged Matt Micucci should exist, and definitely no good cause for it and similar nothings to aggregate, and for the resulting sadness to be labelled anyway other than "garbage".
mircea_popescu: c. A somber vibe and universal consciousness are the common threads that tie each piece together"
mircea_popescu: "Trumpeter and composer Avishai Cohen’s sophomore release on ECM is a reflective journey that grapples with the existential crises facing the world today. At barely 38 minutes, the album’s five tracks present a delicate interplay between temporal precision and intuitive improvisation. Cohen deftly utilizes drummer Nasheet Waits, pianist Yonathan Avishai and bassist Barak Mori to communicate the raw emotions of his musi
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in "oh, it's easy, whatever it might be, adulthood, culture, public speaking, opening a can of tuna. JUST COLOR BY THE NUMBERS!!!" postcards from ustardia :
mircea_popescu: i guess this over-optimistic "people are reasonable" tack on my part betrays innocence and little more.