asciilifeform: GNU gdb (Gentoo 7.8.1 vanilla) 7.8.1

asciilifeform: $ gdb --version

asciilifeform: you might have to get the same gdb i have, to properly compare.

asciilifeform: (connected to warm and running board)

asciilifeform: trinque: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/nkmho/?raw=true << mine, with complete debug out, fwiw

asciilifeform: in a row

asciilifeform: trinque: what happens if you run it second time ?

asciilifeform: i never connect any to mine.

asciilifeform: it is guaranteed to make 0 difference

asciilifeform: and no you don't need a hd in there

asciilifeform: this prints raw packets.

asciilifeform: trinque: give me a similar dump but after you put "set debug remote 1" in your gdb config.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: gotta also think about the fact that sb700 is EXTRAORDINARILY unusual in that we have chip docs at all for it.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha.

asciilifeform: are you able to turn the board on and off using the probe ?

asciilifeform: trinque: did you try the resets as i described here ?

asciilifeform: nobody knows what amd generated these with. could've been msword for all i know. could've been motherfucking quark express. but in any case all they published (WHEN they published anything) is pdf.

asciilifeform: spam - pig-able ?

asciilifeform: is steak cow-able ?

asciilifeform: what's that even mean

asciilifeform: these are chip docs, with thousands of magic numbers.

asciilifeform: png would also be very painful because no cut'n'paste

asciilifeform: who wants - go ahead, it is a 1-liner, and is in the l0gz somewhere

asciilifeform: well yes. multi-GB.

asciilifeform: could rasterize the thing, but it will be multi-GB.

asciilifeform: (i personally stitched it out of the old braindamaged wiki, dumped circa july 2015)

asciilifeform: given as the latter is hand-cranked html

asciilifeform: strange

asciilifeform: ^ what's on the gboard.

asciilifeform: trinque: http://support.amd.com/TechDocs/43009.pdf http://amd-dev.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wordpress/media/2012/10/43366_sb7xx_bdg_pub_1.00.pdf << amd sb700 chipset docs. (and no, they do not exist in any other format, nor will they)

asciilifeform: *the

asciilifeform: all it means is that he cpu wasn't halted properly

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: oh btw you gotta have the cpu arch set to i386 for that one, as the iron starts in 16bit mode, and gdb is too stupid to track mode switches

asciilifeform: gets you to start of bios.

asciilifeform: alternatively, monitor HaltOnReset

asciilifeform: ctrl-C will halt it to where you can play

asciilifeform: switches on

asciilifeform: monitor Power,on

asciilifeform: switches off mine

asciilifeform: monitor Power,acpi

asciilifeform: and no, gizmo first, then sage.

asciilifeform: there aint no 'reset'

asciilifeform: rtfm, http://www.loper-os.org/pub/sage/sage_smartprobe_gdb_command_manual.html#sideband_commands

asciilifeform: sometimes it takes some fiddling to get it into a gdb-able state.

asciilifeform: trinque: try power cycling the board using gdb monitor commands

asciilifeform: http://marktarver.com/reply.html << moar on subj

asciilifeform: http://marktarver.com/professor.html << it moved.

asciilifeform: trinque: so was the plug loose, or dud board, or wat

asciilifeform: various.

asciilifeform: the new tarver is instead a case of 'my sbcl-with-serial-number-filed-off-pays-my-mortgage, open sores suxx!111' ☟︎

asciilifeform: nah those are for young blokes

asciilifeform: i linked subj because he is not the only one in that kingdom, it quite resembles one of those glue traps for mice, and folks who 'disgusted with open source!111' tend to end up in it.

asciilifeform: tarver had an open source crackpot lisp system for a decade or so, then quit in disgust, then opened some commercial thing

asciilifeform: https://archive.is/tbpjB << the only afaik live copy

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: british dude who was once a comp sci prof and quit because barfed at academia's corrupt idiocies, http://btcbase.org/log/2014-06-22#728961 ☝︎

asciilifeform: (with Shit Bolted To The Side)

asciilifeform: took sbcl and closed it.

asciilifeform: jurov: unfortunately it was tarver, not i, who 'reductio ad microsoftium' -- literally! http://shenlanguage.org/professional.html << his turd requires winblows.

asciilifeform: the female connector inside the probe is keyed, should not be hard to reseat.

asciilifeform: one time i even had a board with bad tracks to the hdt connector.

asciilifeform: this has happened to me >1ce

asciilifeform: see also that it has not come loose inside the probe box.

asciilifeform: make sure plug is in the right way

asciilifeform: trinque: naturally the probe won't do anything useful without being connected to a powered amd mobo

asciilifeform: jurov: per this argument, the microshit world is where it's at.

asciilifeform: and yes, if it shows 'SmartProbe: 3.2_3743' it is cured.

asciilifeform: ^ http://www.loper-os.org/pub/sage/sage_smartprobe_gdb_command_manual.html

asciilifeform: E81 -- 'The HDT cable is not plugged in'

asciilifeform: on the other hand, if tarver - or anybody 'open source has failed!111' else - thinks that i am going to build anything whatsoever on top of his closed turd, he is smoking dope.

asciilifeform: then something has gone very wrong in her head. The aspirations of the OS fanatic hooked on mindshare are often no more realistic than the neurotic checkout girl at KFC.' << soooomebody's been reading ze logz

asciilifeform: 'There is a certain character you see in the West; the sort of girl who paints her nails, works at KFC and dreams of being selected for X-Factor because she sang karaoke at her friend's hen night. We laugh at this because we know that for her the chances of getting mindshare and being the next Beyonce are slight. Everyone can dream; but when the girl goes on to neglect her education and development because she's stuck on this dream,

asciilifeform: (apparently he links back to my www now, lulzily)

asciilifeform: http://www.marktarver.com/open.html << moar.

asciilifeform: !#s tarver

asciilifeform: meanwhile,

asciilifeform: (the tool i made for writing ~the probe's own~ flash, was posted earlier.)

asciilifeform: there is a mechanism whereby one can read/write the flash. i've been bolting it onto the ubiquitous 'flashrom' linux util, will be posted later.

asciilifeform: not only commands

asciilifeform: ( afaik the docs were to be found literally nowhere on the net. but they are now here. )

asciilifeform: and i forget who else.

asciilifeform: trinque ^^^^^^^

asciilifeform: of possible reverser interest, https://derevenets.com << 'Snowman is a native code to C/C++ decompiler...' >> similar, possibly, to ida's famous 'hexray'.

asciilifeform: now let's see other folk also !

asciilifeform: anyway kudos to phf for actually solving this exercise

asciilifeform: phf: it is not imho important to optimize parachute for speed. lamportron per se is nearly the ultimate waste of cpu and space in crypto world ...

asciilifeform: will have to look into their rng at some point.

asciilifeform: hmm i think i have an example of phf's selfsame mac here !

asciilifeform: which mac did phf use ?

asciilifeform: would be interesting to learn how it worx

asciilifeform: i ask because on any of my boxes with linux 3.x, i get maybe 1kB/minute from /dev/random unless i have rng plugged in.

asciilifeform: link?

asciilifeform: or why does phf's /dev/random work so well.

asciilifeform: also this was running on a box with iron rng?

asciilifeform: barbaric.

asciilifeform: yet there can be no excuse for it consing

asciilifeform: https://github.com/froydnj/ironclad/blob/master/src/digests/sha256.lisp << phf is right re current one

asciilifeform: could've sworn it had callouts.

asciilifeform: at least not my copy

asciilifeform: mno