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asciilifeform: but go and draw a hilbert space.
asciilifeform: 'CRYPTO_SECRETBOX is a combination of poly1305 (MAC) and xsalsa20 (stream cipher) that is used to encrypt the URCLINE. The taia96n label, CMD, and random bytes are used as the NONCE, and the secret key is chosen prior to encryption.'
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-01-2016#1367965 << this is actually a mega-l0l - a virtually 100% gossipd WITH 100% NSA CRYPTO ☝︎
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> RSA offers a longer hisotry of being studied and attacked << more importantly, it actually fits in head. a 12 yo's head.
ben_vulpes: in case its not clear BingoBoingo i'm a fan of your work
BingoBoingo: Note for everyone submitting stories about fiat matters for Qntra in 2016. "Sorry for your loss" is a welcome and encouraged way to end a piece.
BingoBoingo: RSA offers a longer hisotry of being studied and attacked
BingoBoingo: Tomiii: Well, the general downsides of ECC. At least in Bitcoin the public key isn't even public unless an address has spent a transaction.
punkman: Tomiii: here, but probably not a great idea https://github.com/arttukasvio/deterministic
Tomiii: BingoBoingo: well, determinstic keys, and much smaller keys. possibly as small as a bitcoin address.
danielpbarron: can I encrypt a message to your bitcoin private key?
BingoBoingo: If one your your GPG key's factors is a low prime like 17 or 23, you're fucked.
BingoBoingo: That sounds like a very bad idea
Tomiii: or also, how to make a "brain wallet" for a single GPG privkey, or even a Seed?
Tomiii: Hello, does anyone know how you make a bunch of GPG private keys from a single Seed? like you can do with bitcon wallet? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: "Prime95, which has historically been used to benchmark and stress-test computers, uses Fast Fourier Transforms to multiply extremely large numbers. A particular exponent size, 14,942,209, has been found to cause the system crashes."
BingoBoingo: Other Skylake lulz if someone (cough, cough, mats) wants to throw together a larger Intel and skylake suck piece http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/16/01/11/2049209/intel-skylake-bug-causes-pcs-to-freeze-during-complex-workloads
ben_vulpes: my personal phone goal is an engineering team that is on call so that i don't have to have a phone ☟︎
pete_dushenski: but since no one else on god's green earth actually uses this set-up, it's probably a moot point
pete_dushenski: for my part on the phone-comp sync experiments, i'm pleased to report that the razr syncs like a charm via 10.6 'isync' once contacts are moved from sim storage to phone storage. the catch being that your next phone would also have to sync using 'isync' or else you'll have to switch the contact back to sim storage before changing phones.
ben_vulpes: nary a walk the dinosaur in sight
ben_vulpes: but i don't have a comment section, won't.
pete_dushenski: "For all that it appears to be a JS abomination running on the iPhone, the Google Mail application routinely trounces the Apple Mail application in searching, rendering, speed, and more or less everything one would want from an email application on the phone." << beats desktop (eg. thunderbird) handily as well. web-gmail just... wins.
assbot: Logged on 29-04-2015 13:25:03; mircea_popescu: "Put another way, grep sells out its worst case (lots of partial matches) to make the best case (few partial matches) go faster. How treacherous! As this realization dawns on me, the room seemed to grow dim and slip sideways. I look up at the Ultimate Unix Geek, spinning slowly in his padded chair, and I hear his cackle "old age and treachery...", and in his flickering CRT there is a face reflected,
pete_dushenski: though in all seriousness, if the dumb bitches pretending to be 'drop-in daycares' and 'nannies' don't start returning phone calls and text in a timely manner, IF AT ALL, i'm a seriously cut their useless lives short.
BingoBoingo: You could give oregon or nevada a try
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: the kid knows his ashtanga from his saatva and not a lot besides. trudeau's as innocent as a butterfly, which is why chix dig him and dudes couldn't care less. he's nowhere near as much of a strong retard as the commie premier cunt running alberta for the next 3.5 years
pete_dushenski: punkman: i'm a greenie like that, what can i say
punkman: even if you hate the Unicode folks, they have actually codified a lot of these things and it mostly seems to work ☟︎
pete_dushenski: "GM has put a 60-kWh lithium-ion battery that weighs just just 960 pounds into the floor of the Bolt. As previously announced, the Bolt's 288 cells will be able to go over 200 miles on a full charge. That full charge takes nine hours on a Level 2 EVSE thanks to the onboard 7.2-kW charger. Of course, a full charge won't be that important most days, which is why GM says that you can get 50 miles of range in "less
mircea_popescu: there IS however a fucking marked cost. and it's of the "how do we make colored unicode people" type.
mircea_popescu: but as far the machine is concerned, there is no difference between sum-sigma and letter-sigma. nor any meaning to any symbol. and so the whole "oh we gotta have universal quantifier as a symbol" is to my eyes an exercise of naming the function "understanding" so as to get ai.
mircea_popescu: at the rate this discussion is going, the alt-"lisp" will need a pun function which tells you if the string was used in pun.
asciilifeform: what would make sense is for folks plugged into a mircea_popescutron to get the requisite answer when they ask it
asciilifeform: as is the answer to arbitrary crapolade, e.g., whether A > ∀.
asciilifeform: arguably 'how to draw an alpha' is a a name-problem question
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 13:49:26; mircea_popescu: naming is by its nature this : that there will be a group in power, allocating the names, and everyone else can go suck it.
asciilifeform: one which lets you programmatically specify an operation which yields A when given an ∀, is marginally saner
asciilifeform: fact is, a system which tries to pretend that it makes sense to ask what A + ∀ is equal to, or even whether A > ∀, makes no more sense than one which tries to define the mass of the colour purple.
asciilifeform: only a subset of which sanely applicable to characters
mircea_popescu: or in a less charitable view, it's a half assed attempt to hand-gcc.
phf: it's a totally technical low level detail for explicitly managing your memory, and speeding up operations
phf: you can't make any statements about chars using eq. eq is a special beast used to test ~von neumann~ identity. and all the comments in the spec are related to that. sometimes (eq 1 1) but (eq 123123 123123) is not
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not a matter of "glyph". A actually is both.
mircea_popescu: but i think it's very instructive because i suspect we're uncovering a psychotron here.
phf: mircea_popescu: this a hypothetical mechanism you guys are discussing. this is not actually in lisp
asciilifeform: as in the mircea_popescu> because capital alpha is A. example,
mircea_popescu: attempting to make the sign carry your guts is not going to result in a functioning computer.
mircea_popescu: a sign is a sign.
asciilifeform: if all you get is a Σ on paper - then, no
asciilifeform: you see no difference between this and a random piece of excreta ?
mircea_popescu: Tubro, the fat Panamanian God of Money is a useful notion
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2016 04:30:11; mircea_popescu: do you get a Σ to be the sum and a self-same Σ to be the uppercase sigma ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-01-2016#1367736 << btw lisp world actually is equipped to answer this in a non-retarded way: ☝︎
mircea_popescu: this is not a bad idea
asciilifeform: i've always wanted a '/dev/banhammer'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what do you have in yours, a shell callout to iptables ?!1
mircea_popescu: do you get a Σ to be the sum and a self-same Σ to be the uppercase sigma ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i think we're close to a math breakthrough here.
asciilifeform: and you would set fire to a machine that behaved otherwise!
asciilifeform: (if you ask for uppercase(.......) for any .... that includes such a sign, what do you expect to see ?
asciilifeform: at least for the chars a cultured man might use
asciilifeform: because these are not meaningfully-toggleable properties of a character ?
asciilifeform: (this is not a notation on any existing system, i invented it)
mircea_popescu: nature makes do with a hundred or so. you're better ?
mircea_popescu: mno, i am merely in the habit of having a mendelev table on my fucking wall.
mircea_popescu: that way i can look at a piece of paper with them
mircea_popescu: suppose you limit yourself to a hundred or so of these.
mircea_popescu: you actually aim to use a dword for the alphabet encoding ?
mircea_popescu: because capital alpha is A.
mircea_popescu: also, do you get two A's ?
asciilifeform: so is A > α ?
mircea_popescu: there's as the romanians say, "mai e mult pina departe". there's a lot to go to far away.
asciilifeform: whose lisps didn't even run on a real graphical console
asciilifeform: in a way that doesn't leave the crud exchanges simply going to a pit to die
phf: the only redeeming quality in this case, that there aren't better standards available, except for maybe Ada (i've not looked). you end up with trade offs, or hard constraints that make the result non-portable. a positive aspect of cl standard is that you get reasonably similar behavior on very wide range of hardware, but i agree that things could always be better
asciilifeform: incidentally, was anybody else cruelly shocked as a kid when discovering that the 8th-bit upper 'ansi' character of msdos is NOT standardized ?
phf: mircea_popescu: wait, partial ordering in this case means that alphabet is ordered. it's meaningless things like "is _ greater then a" that are not defined
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you can trivially define a partial ordering when sorting
asciilifeform: asking what 'A' + 'B' is equal to,
mircea_popescu: so if i sort a file containing a bunch of words, i do not know if i should look for ___stuff at the end or beginning or scattered anywhere.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is NOT a 'the alphabet' in the cl standard !
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so is there a special function to inquire which of two comes before in the alphabet ?
asciilifeform: debugger invoked on a TYPE-ERROR in thread
mircea_popescu: a comes before b.
mircea_popescu: they aren't ordered ? so "a" > "b" returns undefined ?
asciilifeform: they are not a ring.
mircea_popescu: no, in the sense that they are specifically labelled thus with a label specifically made to label numbers.
asciilifeform: BUT they are not a ring.
asciilifeform: could've just as easily been a ^
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is an in-band magic sequence denoting a named character
phf: a reader dispatch character
asciilifeform: phf: and yet one still finds people arithmetizing on characters, thinking that they are doing nothing wrong, then wondering why unicode is retarded and anything involving it is a crock of shit where so much as a fart runs in O(N) at best
phf: asciilifeform: i think numerics is a truly dodgy tradeoff. it took me until quite recently to grok that "character code == ascii" or "character code == unicode codepoint" are not the only two possible interpretations.
mircea_popescu: the idea was that it sacrificed outlier cases to get a better performance curve geared towards more common cases
mircea_popescu: the bit discussing the cheating involved in the asm translation of search in c was added to the log about a year ago
asciilifeform: what part of this is a mega-mystery.
asciilifeform: but, as when reading a municipal fire code,
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that was a warning not to attach side effects to the act of comparison
asciilifeform: characters as a distinct animal from numerics.