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phf: it's actually from latin caesura, which is now used as the name of pause in a poem. i thought caesarean section comes from that, but wikipedia article has a very confusing "etymology" section so i don't even know what to believe anymore!

ben_vulpes: in re fp, dunno that anyone noticed, but i backpedaled from the global state fatwa in my v poc

mircea_popescu: on top of which, i suspect there's a large chunk of "strange woman" in all this also.

phf: i was saying that agents/actor is the only valuable dydactic take on object orientation in real world, it both properly traces oop history and also has meaningful parallels in biology and physics.

asciilifeform: 'I am curious as to how many jurors they went through before they found a non Costco member.....or if they did.' << from commentz

BingoBoingo: https://i.sli.mg/i2m6N1.jpg

mircea_popescu: shooter, the fastest runner, big league ball players, the toughest boxers. Americans love a winner and will not tolerate a loser. Americans play to win all the time. I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed. That's why Americans have never lost and never will lose a war, because the very thought of losing is hateful to Americans."

mircea_popescu: "...Now I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country. Men, all this stuff you've heard about America not wanting to fight - wanting to stay out of the war, is a lot of horse dung. Americans traditionally love to fight. All real Americans love the sting of battle. When you were kids, you all admired the champion marble

BingoBoingo: I'll give it a look

mircea_popescu: "i'm writing a book as a fallback plan in case i go broke". 14 yo.

BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/glzmH3C.png

mircea_popescu: i don't own it nor is it a functional object.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do you own that juice chair ? i'd like to know how it works: which way do the legs go? through the metal brace, or is the latter a backrest?

linton_s_dawson: so disconnection from the outer world doesn't seem feasible unless i'm on another planet

linton_s_dawson: indeed. the community must consist of "true believers" as well, i guess, since external factors can easily screw things up. like, if 1 btc buys 5 apples in my community but 1000 apples in the outer world.

linton_s_dawson: mircea_popescu: i've seen your argument regarding the "true" value of a bitcoin where it has nothing to do with fiat. do you have a way to determine it? say, i start a community and we agree to use bitcoin as a currency. how many apples would one bitcoin (bit, satoshi, etc.) buy?

mircea_popescu: i went for highschool, good enough.

mircea_popescu: i never bothered to pick it up myself.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-11-2015#1329372 << kinda funny, everybody i know who has one, incl. self, keeps it in some dark place with tax papers etc ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://russiapedia.rt.com/files/of-russian-origin/koshchey-bessmertny/koshchey-bessmertny_4-t.jpg << this pic is stolen from a book i had.

mircea_popescu: i feel better now.

funkenstein_: i guess their socialization is superior in the sense adlai implied: more evolved

funkenstein_: i called it "better"

funkenstein_: actually in this case I was complimenting a far more entrenched class system

mircea_popescu: admire : you want that to be there so that you and ants are made by the same god so therefore, and i underscore, therefore, if the ants were owners of the world there still were a place in the world for you.

funkenstein_: yeah that was pretty vague sorry.. I guess more established social behaviors..

mircea_popescu: actually upon rereading that spoken poem, i notice a hole the light might perhaps be brought in!

mircea_popescu: you show me a roomfull of 20 year olds that all supposedly have an intuitive understanding of number theory, i see both the reason poor brin looks like he sucks corcoduse his entire life and a candidate for hanging.

funkenstein_: mircea_popescu, no offense taken. I have mostly explored Red Square at my own leisure, but still consider myself a stranger there.

adlai: funkenstein_: most recent common ancestor. you and i have one, we and the ants have one. probably not the same one.

mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ understand, it's not that i dislike you or that i mean to do you the boo boo or anything. but there is a difference between the guy that was taken by hand through red square and the guy who lives in moscow. and i don't believe you are familiar with a whole bunch of superior math simply because it's not possible to be so disorganised in other aspects if that were the case. whether you recognize words on pre

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i mean, it doesn't exist in any mainstream programming system, of the kind favoured by the tards

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno, was on the list ?

funkenstein_: I know how relativistic metrics like robertson-walker and minkowski are not actually metrics but pseudometrics

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-11-2015#1329234 << i'm still having trouble figuring out how tailcalls came up. possibly because my redditard dosimeter is maxed out for the month ☝︎

funkenstein_: i will ask when I don't understand, how about that :)

funkenstein_: i am familiar

mircea_popescu: obviously the discussion of metrics, ordered sets etc is useful in the general, but i don't think he's familiar with the field and so i won't use it.

mircea_popescu: most tellingly, and the heuristic i generally recognize it by, is the inability to find the places where no context is possible.

mircea_popescu: "A is magically comparable to B on the grounds that I believe!"

funkenstein_: there's not much room for magical divinity anywhere in these considerations so I think I'm missing the point

mircea_popescu: the sad story here is that this is a war we already fucking won. about... uh i dunno, fifty times to date.

funkenstein_: well I agree, they don't mean much until a context is provided

funkenstein_: well I've heard these words used on occasion and they not useless

funkenstein_: i guess with ideal objects this is true

funkenstein_: no, only that I can write code to define the object

funkenstein_: hmm thanks ascii somehow I missed his mention of quakerism, I am particularly interested therin

funkenstein_: I see the inner light doctrine problem ok.. but I'm not sure what's wrong with recognizing I am an individual just like any ant

asciilifeform: 'Even more precisely, it is a core doctrine of the neo-primitive Christianity that we call Protestantism. And specifically, I believe it to be a mutated and metastasized version of the Quaker doctrine of the Inner Light. Basically, all humans must be neurologically uniform because we all have the same little piece of God inside us. (All the American Protestant sects, or at least all the Northern ones, became heavily Quakerized

mircea_popescu: "i just want"/"i'm just trying to" derives directly from this as well.

funkenstein_: no i don't.. can't even properly place the monty python character at the moment

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i see your lamp and raise you a pony.

mircea_popescu: i can't quite believe this. da fuck "so much fucking fat in their blood that it actually overwhelms their carrier proteins".

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo has successfully infected my household, so now look what i read : http://voat.co/v/fatpeoplehate/comments/670672

mircea_popescu: and it will never go away, either. by now vesseness is out, more or less, but even if i make murck's dessicated skull a part of my urinal (which i will ANYWAY, irrespective of how useless it is, because i don't give a shit about utilitarianism in some cases) there's going to be another sciencehatesyou around, ready to strut.

mircea_popescu: (the line quoted is a fine example of the cost assymetry, too. tard thinks it's ok to break grammar, because hey, tard immunity! tard doesn't even consider whether it's ok or not to be wrong. ofcourseitis. meanwhile suppose you were stupid and wrong, then what ? i don't mean all the time, like sciencehatesyou. i mean ONCE. which is how the various wanna-be intellectuals across the pond lose all the time. sooner or late

mircea_popescu: im better than her and she's stupid and fat, of course i'm going to be bad. what, you figure if i wrote differently sciencehatesyou woulda loved me ?

mircea_popescu: not like it wouldn't have been trivially easy for me to avoid the charge, if i felt like it. so than then what, random internet tard would have created a DIFFERENT rationalization as to why i'm bad ?

punkman: http://i.imgur.com/QoAU7a2.jpg

ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-11-2015#1328990 << i chuckled a bit ☝︎

BingoBoingo: Or maybe I'm just using an especially lazy definition of agonal

BingoBoingo: The new body shaming https://i.imgur.com/OlS3iQo.png

punkman: I am craving corn dogs now

soiled: and i'm gonna get rich because of those things

soiled: i can be whatever you want me to be baby

pete_dushenski: on that bombshell, i'm off for the evening. happy friday and to all a good night !

adlai: and this still doesn't have the report itself, or say what happens to the plane... and i just ran out of distraction-minutes

ben_vulpes: i have no idea where it came up with the notion i found it on twitter

adlai: kakobrekla: well pete_dushenski didn't link source so i'm not sure what's in store for that plane, but all i took from the quote is that it won't be chemtrailing isil farmlands

ben_vulpes: "will depreciate...to accomodate for loss of life", sorry, not following. as though i were 5?

ben_vulpes: which should be entirely unsurprising, as most doctors i've met can't do odds for poker in their heads much less the odds for human ailments.

mircea_popescu: i've not got around to reading anything else of the guy's.

pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: speaking of idle masturbation, i tried sifting my way through a few of 'pseudoerasmus' ' other blogs posts and pretty much choked to death on that inanity and pointlessness

mircea_popescu: this is about as bright as "here's an oil fire in my kitchen, i know, splash water!"

mircea_popescu: incidentally, i must say, as someone whose education such as it was happened on old style, film x rays

ascii_field: i hear plenty of u.s. folk have problems with aim when shooting self, for some reason

mircea_popescu: from the actual data i've seen, about a third of us "forces" are not actually psychologically capable of using their weapons.

ascii_field: in re: paris, i see it as an own goal

pete_dushenski: in other news, i'm quite enjoying this atm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtLoaMfinbU

assbot: Logged on 20-11-2015 21:54:18; mircea_popescu: but anyway, maybe the answer actually has little to do with a "west worship" thing, and simply is that the sort of people who have goals and set about to pursue them simply no longer exists. for all i know the problem of mauretania is exactly the problem of missouri : everyone in sight principally desires to sit down in front a tv.

BingoBoingo: I guess I should figure out a way to help the imageblind get the joke

BingoBoingo: At least I included the Hussein so everyone knows he birthed ISIS

BingoBoingo: And I haven't figured out a way to make it flash between the two

mircea_popescu: but anyway, maybe the answer actually has little to do with a "west worship" thing, and simply is that the sort of people who have goals and set about to pursue them simply no longer exists. for all i know the problem of mauretania is exactly the problem of missouri : everyone in sight principally desires to sit down in front a tv. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: ask me that once i run a military coup in fucking mauretania

pete_dushenski: ;;later tell gabrielradio fantastique ! i'll take a look over the weekend and whip it up into a piece for contravex.

mircea_popescu: i guess.

mircea_popescu: pig squealing last words of berlusconi were "fuck this stupid shit, i wish i was younger so i could just go kidnap nato troops at sea"

ascii_field: i suspect that the standard alpha orc still wants to 'make it in the west in the end' (tm)

mircea_popescu: i was jus' wondering.

ascii_field: i'm sold. but you gotta convince... them.

ascii_field: i just now grokked this - http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328641 - mircea_popescu actually thinks that the ~150 unaligned toy countries are sovereign ?? ☝︎

mircea_popescu: i can see why individual cowards don't shoot cop first, ask questions after.

mircea_popescu: i sitll have nfi why all these dubious regimes don't go on a shoot first policy.

BingoBoingo: I'll see what I can do

mircea_popescu: btw, i humbly submit for your consideration that for the future qntra does s/Obama/President <a href=qntra.net/president-bahamas.jpg>Bahamas</a>/

mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/J0aNCtN.jpg << best pic ever.

BingoBoingo: ""What I actually worry about is long-term psychological problems. Some cats are quite delicate," said Lara Chan with the Calgary Cat Clinic."

BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/nKSjTGa.png << Mayospiration

jurov: i guess they can drive themselves to service