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jcpham: i think 188 isn'
t happening again anytime soon
TomServo: Then it'll really crash when Gox can'
t pay out. ;)
Namworld: of course if people knew it wasn'
t going to crash during the month, people would buy more of them
Namworld: Which is exactly why I didn'
t buy...
jurov: i didn'
t put much into bonds myself. but i'm being MPBPT operator here
jurov: two months in a row loss for MPOE bonds will cause having to cover them all yourself, can'
t we at least assume that as a baseline?
mircea_popescu: if we knew wtf is ghoing on we wouldn'
t need optioons in the fuirst place
jurov: i mean, isn'
t it so unreasonable to assume March will possibly repeat, and do valuation adjustment?
jurov: MPOE is exposing itself to undue risk, don'
t you think?
pgp: I don'
t... just was reading their
t&c's...
mircea_popescu: pgp i still don'
t see what changes. when money comes in order is moved into active.
pgp: mp: I agree they shouldn'
t, but if their system is built around the idea of allowing unfunded order to be promoted to funded orders, that would occur no just when money comed in or out, but for those making two sided markets as well...
pgp: question: with fastcash4bitcoins.com, isn'
t there an arb on that 15 min window when volatility is high? kinda like a free put?
pgp: let's say that I have funded buys and sell in gox and unfunded buys and sell, doesn'
t an execution on one side force them to check all the orders on the other side for same person?
mircea_popescu: then again considering the string of insanities sturles was sprouting the other day, it wouldn'
t surprise me if they run it like that.
mircea_popescu: not out of need, but since data should have been plotting and isn'
t i thought worth the mention
Scrat: don'
t need a session id to access say logo and css
MJR_: Scrat: a million ways to deal with traffic, as long as your router doesn'
t blow up
MJR_: Scrat: so as long as you don'
t respond to spam, you should be fine
jcpham: i mean you guys can'
t determine if there ar 6 of us scrambling like monkeys trading
Bugpowder: I don'
t have any more capital out of deep storage
imsaguy: mircea_popescu, because everyone knows you don'
t expose your archers
Insaneatyou: asciilifeform - ah, yes, i hadn'
t quite realized that you could do that. It's an unregulated marekt
mircea_popescu: "I feel like I can'
t talk to anyone, because my own problems are stupid and insignificant, because I am stupid and insignificant."
Insaneatyou: I did much math before, but haven'
t used it in a while, i also used to code some
taub: bgupta: i haven'
t found out any correlation yet, but it's cute to look at
bgupta: taub: wondering if that ratio thing is a red herring.. and just a natural result of what happens when price goes up.. IE: people don'
t set out to sell a fixed number of coins, but rather they are selling to raise a certain amount of fiat to pay for bills/toys.. and in btc terms those keep getting cheaper as btc rallies.
MJR_: ugh, i don'
t mean like the bitcoin foundation
mircea_popescu: other than people who code there doesn'
t really seem to be any group in the us with any sort of work ethic.
MJR_: mircea_popescu: I agree, don'
t need repackagers, need people willing to work
MJR_: which may seem like a lot of cash, but it isn'
t really in the grand scheme of where they are now
MJR_: and right now everyone is waiting for everyone else to start the business that they can have as a customer, but they won'
t start it till they have the services they need
MJR_: bloomberg started small (i know most people can'
t believe that these monolithic huge corps were startups at one point)
bgupta: right my point is in this case, I sense that that a solid site could be built, and it would be useful, and get a lot of traffic, but there doesn'
t seem to be a market yet of folks iwlling to pay for a paywall service.. and ads can only bring in so much.
jurov: while i'm at it, what price is used for exercises when btccharts isn'
t there?
bgupta: mircea_popescu: Am I observing incorrectly that min/max and volume numbers go away if bots aren'
t playing?
jurov: can'
t you ask bitcoinity to provide alternative feed?
mircea_popescu: if bot can'
t find pricing feed / is not sane it just doesn'
t quote, tries again.
mircea_popescu: <jurov> iirc mp said they place orders with expiration date, they don'
t actively cancel them << this is correct.
jurov: iirc mp said they place orders with expiration date, they don'
t actively cancel them
jurov: but they warn that it shouldn'
t be fetched more often than every 15min.
rikur: but yeah, not going to bit again on bets like this. unfair rules still, can'
t understand why you don'
t agree.
rikur: mircea_popescu: I can'
t see this risky last minute bet mentioned on the site
jurov: i don'
t know. hence, it will be kept by coinbr
jurov: and wasn'
t able to produce a btc addy even with hint
rikur: so what happens if they don'
t make it
mircea_popescu: it wasn'
t expired addies, it was more specifically : guy sees bet about to close, sends btc, doesn'
t make in before close.
mircea_popescu: irt's not that "i don;'
t fix it". it's that what you're proposing is not a fix, and what i have is.
rikur: so that's why you don'
t fix it
rikur: jurov: when I bet Yes at around 160$, I was taking much higher risk than last minute 50 BTC bettor don'
t you agree?
benkay: and you didn'
t get smart?
jcpham: that doesn'
t even make sense to me
jborkl_: I don'
t look at fiat stocks
assbot: Shit. You ain'
t even old enough to smoke.
iz: hard to take their money if they don'
t want to play
jcpham: not really i don'
t like it there
jcpham: plus it's ADHD chat. you can'
t fix it
benkay: you obviously don'
t have the chops to make those plays thenm
jurov: you didn'
t read the article?
lippoper: isn'
t there a chance a lot of people will transfer their BTC's out and find another way to exchange?
jurov: benkay consider that even mpex/coinbr deposits aren'
t automated
benkay: i hate everyone who doesn'
t spend money on it
jurov: it's not like credit cards where you can;
t legally compete with them
lippoper: can'
t i just sell bitcoins to wells fargo?
pgp: it is startling to see how quickly it's moving up... $500 ain'
t so far away anymore...
jurov: but i don'
t know the formula. mp has his properietary one, smickles didn'
t release it too
thestringpuller: jurov: doesn'
t mpoe take in a volatility greek in it's pricing
pgp: not really - wouldn'
t work that way...
MJR_: but it doesn'
t really do well for directional choices
jurov: can'
t imagine... they would annoy all emmassies in tokyo
gp5st: yes, i don'
t expect to be anonomous on here
lippoper: I don'
t really understand the options at all ;-(