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imsaguy: Chaang-Noi: he meant they won't exist on the exchange, derp
imsaguy: how are they going to add 50 more if they can't get teh original going?
mircea_popescu: i can't be stonewalled. he won't sign, he won't exist pretty much.
ThickAsThieves: its a moot point, like Chaang says, they don't need anything
imsaguy: those chinese won't sign anything unless its in chinese
mircea_popescu: talk to goat, i don't do ladyboiz
mircea_popescu: she ain't poor.
deadweasel: lol, i sold EVERYTHING. I don't want to hold of any of that crap right now.
MJR_: and people say america doesn't have a great educational system...
mircea_popescu: i dojn't give a flying fuck if she;s single. and tyvm.
mircea_popescu: was kinda funny, they were all "you ciocksucker, i bet you don't have 10 euros on you" "dude, if i do you suck my cock ???" "fuck you, show me"
mircea_popescu: can't get a fucking train on schedule, even if the schedule lists hours only, no minutes.
mircea_popescu: but the society where people don't do what they're told and question authority a lot ends up something like france
thestringpuller: Sure we protest, and "get uppity", but in general you're taught all through childhood "do as your told", "don't question authority".
thestringpuller: isn't that funny though?!?!?
mircea_popescu: o hey, twitter delivers! >> @PaulFish This is what a CEO / founder needs to focus on. This is it. http://t.co/KopwO3Udpy
mircea_popescu: and in fairness, the blockchain isn't as bad as either miley cyrus or doodling.
pizzaman1337: we don't want everyone dropping their crap in the blockchain
mircea_popescu: now don't any of you trolls quote this discussion then until after i'm done making teh banker my cockpuppet.
MJR_: but i just can't believe that no one actually does anything about it
KRS1: t'sup man
benkay: and i don't feel like debugging a socket connection over code i didn't write myself tonight
usagi: You haven't even read our contract. Go do some due dilligence before you come here and waste my time with "scumbag"
usagi: That didn't take long. I'm back.
usagi: I'll answer you when you can explain why the market disagrees with you. Why is it, praytell, the people invested in tu.silver won't sell below .12/unit? Go argue with the market.
usagi: I don't give a shit if you buy on the market or not. Bye
usagi: I don't care
usagi: Seriously, you're being retarded. You want to talk shit about how I do things and you don't know we deal in small denomination coins and haven't read our contract
usagi: Want another example? You haven't read our contract.
usagi: It is more liquid. We're small. That doesn't justify the "nerd", "junk fund", etc.
usagi: Yeah but you're a little clueless when it comes to investing in silver, aren't you?
usagi: If you feel the price is too expensive, perhaps they know something you don't know? I dunno. I don't understand it myself. I just sell silver.
seongyupyoo: i need to get going, thanks for all your helps guys. i don't know how this chatroom operates exactly, but i will be back :)
seongyupyoo: maximilian, escrow does not work for my model because i don't want to be in the middle of people handling their transaction because of USD
usagi: I don't think people are going to be concerned with that if your business takes off
usagi: Anyways, I don't like how you explain how you keep the destroyed funds, because until that moment you speak of the funds as "destroyed"
maximian: Bitcoin has a mechanism for multisig transactions - destruction isn't necessary
seongyupyoo: we don't escrow
seongyupyoo: sholdn't take long
seongyupyoo: no i don't, i just made something called nashx
seongyupyoo: well someone thought that it was an issue, you're right it might not really be an issue. and it really isn't, but it was brought up, and i can see how some people might see that as risk
usagi: i don't know what's going on
seongyupyoo: so send money from my wallet to my wallet with 100 input and 1 output if i don't to give back 99?
seongyupyoo: i don't know as i don't know how to do either
mircea_popescu: oddly, it's the crackers sayin' it ain't fair.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu, that's what they call you. bitcoin billi-on-aire, lots of niggas say it ain't fair.
pgp3: what do you mean $90... I don't see that anywhere...
asciilifeform: don't look a gift horse... in the arse?
MJR_: mircea_popescu: avoid challenges that can't be avoided...hard to explain i guess, but some things have to be done, not talking about wasting effort
Scrat: can't, the bath is proprietary
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't believe that separation is a matter of fact.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: don't know about you, but I would prefer a system that is up-front about the goal of separating people from meatpuppets, rather than pretending to do a million other inconsequential things
MJR_: i figured out how to use *nix systems because i didn't have a computer and wanted my iphone to do everything a computer could do
mircea_popescu: i don't think you can safely identify someone that way.
MJR_: they don't have to be geniuses
asciilifeform: "education" is a seriously abused word in application to the schooling of the masses. The root 'educe' being == 'to bring out.' There isn't usually much to bring out.
punkman: well assumptions don't last long when you actually have to go to work
mircea_popescu: very weak society, one that wants the benefit but doesn't enjoy the labour.
mircea_popescu: problem is, cultures which have this ethos don't need the pathos
MJR_: but my point is, if you "say" you value education but don't, you won't get education
mircea_popescu: adding more won't credibly help.
jurov: you don't seem to have any other solution
mircea_popescu: i don't propose this as a practical solution, mind.
jurov: if they just threatened to pulp me if i don't learn... then i;m not sure i'd really learn
asciilifeform: the kid is taught the times table to see if he is trainable. as witnessed by the fact that the times table continued to be taught, even in times and places where the people running the show don't give a damn whether anyone actually knows their times table.
MJR_: yeah, that makes sense...kids (and many other people in society) won't understand why things are necesssary....that's why you say because i told you so
mircea_popescu: you can't expect them to self-motivate. if they had enough of a clue as to what's what they wouldn't need school.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well... you can't improve it the way you broke it i think.
jurov: where we left the saying you can't make horse drink ?
asciilifeform: any system of organizing society (education, work, whatever) that doesn't include a hard mechanism for separating actual people from meat puppets is doomed.
mircea_popescu: "because if you don't i'll fucking beat you to death" is an excellent answer.
jurov: and it isn't so much about money. but not about beating, either.
mircea_popescu: that doesn't take money, that takes the will to do so.
asciilifeform: AFAIK testing mcdonalds cooks isn't mandatory (vs. truck drivers etc)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nobody would bother testing the poor for drugs if they didn't need to work.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well... i don't have an opinion.
jurov: don't tell me nobody other can think about such things????
MJR_: since they will also be accepting public assistance, we want to make sure they won't spend it on drugs!
mircea_popescu: also pls don't boycott mpex
Scrat: managed email delivery isn't such a bad idea
Scrat: topace: here's the problem, they don't have set IPs
Scrat: mircea_popescu: are you implying that it doesn't work? it can be avoided however if reverse proxies have set IPs and your webservers whitelist said IPs
mircea_popescu: seongyupyoo don't listen to kakobrekla and trolls
seongyupyoo: that sounds about right that pool ops wouldn't share
MJR_: i personally like bitcoin just the way it is, i haven't seen another system which brings anything valuable to the table in my opinino
MJR_: he just doesn't give them to the people actually wanting them
MJR_: seongyupyoo: he doesn't actually destroy them
MJR_: if you don't want to participate in the system, it doesn't matter to you
MJR_: ThickAsThieves: he said for now he keeps them, since he doesn't see that happening
asciilifeform: you can simply carry on pretending it doesn't exist (of course, at present it doesn't exist at all, and isn't likely to)
asciilifeform: the best part is that shitcoin can't do anything whatsoever to you if you don't use it.
asciilifeform: also, since you can have infinitely-many addresses, being sent shat-on coins doesn't hurt you (you will need to come up with clean ones to post a bond, but for other purposes dirty ones will do fine)
mircea_popescu: bitcoin isn't universally compatible with this sendfback thing tho
mircea_popescu: this is bad tho. you can't refuse a tx.
seongyupyoo: NashX doesn't answer any transactions
mircea_popescu: seongyupyoo that is a big problem. i imagined you'd only allow people risk btc, and so your service couldn't be used for 1st time btc buyers
MJR_: his exchange seems to be based on a ltc to btc model...which could work if i didn't find ltc useless
seongyupyoo: i don't know shitcoin
mircea_popescu: seongyupyoo why you say people woudln't use this for 100 btc ?
mircea_popescu: but i think it's fully argued, i don't see anything more for it than what;s been said.