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mircea_popescu: sadly.
mircea_popescu: "what would you say to this mental image of mine which i call by a name i culled from reality and whose existence is here predicated on supporting my position in an inexistent argument ???"
mircea_popescu: no, but because the question is based on a presumption that doesn't hold in practice.
mircea_popescu: let him ask me this.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#420 << no, it's a "workable" alternative to go to fucking school and learn to think. which means languages, not math. "but mp, i'm a slut, i have big udders, why should I" oops i was reading from the wrong sheet, i mean "but mp, i'm a mathgeniusboy, why should i" blabla.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#413 << doh. hence the "wars" (raging mostly in rms' mind)
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#396 << if you don't do it one way, it'll have to be done the other way. either way - it'll be the other way from the other way. what can you do.
mircea_popescu: never you mind all that.
mircea_popescu: i generally think everyone stands by their assertions until they say otherwise anyway
mircea_popescu: "i stand by my assertion that x" isn't terribly helpful.
mircea_popescu: doesn't matter which, pick one.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#346 << aqhahaha they un-open-sourced it ? lol.
mircea_popescu: you can just take the next control code free from pete's list and go with it. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: separately, if you want to register a bot you can have autovoice for it ; but in general it's a good idea to sort out the part where it voices itself as we're headed that way ; the autovoice thing is a stopgap and temporary.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#344 << to limit noise the idea is that whoever puts a link in is responsible to provide context for it ; rather than rely on automatic bot function. bots are to read their own www logs when referenced and that's it.
mircea_popescu: i suppose effort to bridge the gap has been made, perhaps most notably the "literate code" thing, but still. spec is not code ; code is not spec.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#342 << no, actually, they're fundamentally different items.
mircea_popescu: heh check out the netsplits
mircea_popescu: this idea of "code is specification" is on about the same level of intellectual sophistication as "definition by example". ie, something morons with schoolhouse jobs do.
mircea_popescu: much like a definition of an apple is not an apple ; just so a spec is not a program.
mircea_popescu: maybe ; but a spec is not defined as "can mechanically be transformed into a working program".
mircea_popescu: not at all.
mircea_popescu: mno.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#225 << if you think that is what spec looks like you must be new here! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: not sure who'd describe average working crack whore as sentient. ~same sentience as cow.
mircea_popescu: entirely, however, seems unlikely.
mircea_popescu: technology breeds differentiation. pretty sure this is a stable node ; so they'll exist alright.
mircea_popescu: what, like ancient greece ?
mircea_popescu: ie, that exact lack of agency that itches lafond.
mircea_popescu: an' i imagine breeding fantasy is when she fantasizes about being tied in a barn, fed, impregnated etc. like a human domestic animal mix.
mircea_popescu: there is nothing contiguous in the present upon which to build future contiguity.
mircea_popescu: "I'm a 23 year old female who believes in all things kinky. I have major breeding fantasies, and have had multiple children already, all whom I have given up for adoption. I'm helping the world and being a slut all at the same time." << deeze internets.
mircea_popescu: these two are only confused in the mind of the derpy englisher trying to flatter britannia.
mircea_popescu: depends. do you mean "people" in the sense of monogamy-beer-and-watching-sports, "what my daddy told me" etc ? or do you mean people in the sense of, whoever is on the land is the people ?
mircea_popescu: when you're discussing the earth you're discussing geological time. nobody cares about people.
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: with time, it will, yes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nature is very stable. recall all the inept drama about how "chernobyl is permadestroyed" ? people like to flatter themselves.
mircea_popescu: then piling up two millenia of advances you get almost 1, about .8 pre-industrialization ; and our current ~8 post, via railroad, refrigeration, sanitation, etc.
mircea_popescu: riding cattle herders, like the cowboys, or Gingis Khan's men) about 0.04 or so ; and ancient world agriculturalists can get as high as 0.2 people per square kilometer.
mircea_popescu: anyway - the great agricultural jump between 2k and 1k bc almost doubled world population (from about 60-70 to about 110-120 mn) ; before that, the great move from subsistence hunter/gathering to pastoral lifestyle cca 7k/5k tripled it, from about 7ish to about 20ish. the earth was throughout the same 500mn sq km ; and so you can say that truly primitive men will live about 0.01 to the sq km ; mongoloids (ie, you know, horse
mircea_popescu: ~same vastly unpopulated land with pompous idiots concentrated in ports.
mircea_popescu: us and argentina have a lot more in common than the usian would like to think ; certainly much closer to argentina than to europe.
mircea_popescu: and elliot's girlfriend was in some dude's bedroom.
mircea_popescu: there is no / was never any industry here.
mircea_popescu: argentina is close to 3mn sqkm, so you're looking at possibly even 100k.
mircea_popescu: iirc it's about 0.03-0.04 / sqkm
mircea_popescu: not particularly an open question even now. since 1966 - 2016, 10 5-year-plans of constant decay.
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: yeah, but where's grass there's rodents and bugs. people can live off dung, rodents and bugs.
mircea_popescu: the grass is still there.
mircea_popescu: born tupi ; will die tupi. with the reed skirts and all.
mircea_popescu: there's no pressure here. they'll just revert to subsistence hunting/gathering.
mircea_popescu: think, re the "rediscover sickle and work", that sickle is a necessary product of very intensively worked lands in like europe. it's trying to adjust to pressure.
mircea_popescu: reversion to mean is a bitch.
mircea_popescu: what hole did tall, slender, fine nosed egyptians fall into ?
mircea_popescu: i do not know. but gone they are.
mircea_popescu: that's 1500!
mircea_popescu: which is how and why the us annexed florida.
mircea_popescu: nah. listen, the way these "spanish dominions" worked was that the spanish kind simple claimed the land. there wasn't a 1 spanyard per billion acres.
mircea_popescu: but argentina is mostly built out of the italians that couldn't find us army tit to suck in europe. ie, the rejects of rejects, it's dubious italians are people at all.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the spanyards from spain were people.
mircea_popescu: the two may be hard to distinguish in practice, but nevertheless.
mircea_popescu: and it's an insult to communism to call south american communists. they're not communists, they're just dumb and lazy.
mircea_popescu: but in the 80 years hence, slowly wound down back to their hole.
mircea_popescu: they appeared people back when german empire kept them afloat.
mircea_popescu: these weren't ever people.
mircea_popescu: i do not believe so.
mircea_popescu: if carrots become scarce, rabbit doesn't start a carrot farm.
mircea_popescu: they're already starving ; 0 willingness to do anything about it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah. these monkeys will just starve.
mircea_popescu: (for the innocent : the sickle is the pinnacle of agricultural slavery. it requires one to literally walk bent over and using arms for 10-12 hours. only miner has harder time.)
mircea_popescu: TOO MUCH WORK.
mircea_popescu: you know why ?
mircea_popescu: sickle is unknown here.
mircea_popescu: and industrialize in particular manner - "we'll cull the peasantry and build towns"
mircea_popescu: also.
mircea_popescu: so there's all these "art" craps that consist of that same image of che etc.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i suspect this is the whole recipe of south amercan socialism : "we're just as much a bunch of idiot subhuman iron age farmers ; unlike lenin we won't fuck with proletkult"
mircea_popescu: and whatever, they had some maybe-promising beginnings in modernist art ; but the narrowminded soviet derps (lenin & gf front and center) fucked it up.
mircea_popescu: "at least it's shaven"
mircea_popescu: not really. just in comparative terms. you know, like the sow looks good next to the goat.
mircea_popescu: by the 70s it was already hopeless.
mircea_popescu: eh, the soviets looked good in the 50s/60s only, and strictly because the old austro-hungarian empire was ground to dust by hovitzer fire, literally, and france/low countries etc had been bombed pretty badly. so west europe starved which it hadn't done for 3 centuries while russia starved which it had done each other decade.
mircea_popescu: hm i suppose 128 is better than 100 huh
mircea_popescu: as the police joke goes, "every victim describes the assailant's gun the same way : it was big"
mircea_popescu: fact is, average woman willing to give it all away will make more over any period than average convenience store robber willing to give it all away.
mircea_popescu: suddenly explanation re ~0 robberies is apparent.
mircea_popescu: "i think the machine gun works by stabbing its victims ; but you won't notice because tits."
mircea_popescu: http://66.media.tumblr.com/c35e4918dd0193a12a9b57a5d86da76a/tumblr_mkan9o7iP71rfba0vo1_1280.png << visual aid.
mircea_popescu: maybe they're all nude and the media can't report on 'em
mircea_popescu: that's another thing.
mircea_popescu: pick a road, woman!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, more like "i don't care about what you think enough to not rob the place ; but god damned i care what you may say about my genitalia"
mircea_popescu: go rob the bank in the buff like your ancestors teh greeks.
mircea_popescu: this makes no sense to me. so you've supposedly "given up on society" and everything, right ? why the fuck are you dressed.
mircea_popescu: speaking of, i wonder why not more store robberies perpetrated by nude women.
mircea_popescu: o god. myeah.
mircea_popescu: pretty sure a) those neurotic ceramic salesgirls don't matter-of-factly expose their cunt as seen there and b) they've no guns.
mircea_popescu: how about http://67.media.tumblr.com/b1cd39c5f24a89a559007dc74c4773ac/tumblr_o4lp1woPln1s3zysso1_1280.jpg ?