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mircea_popescu: "The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks"
mircea_popescu: and the reason coinbase doesn't deserialize for you is that it contains that string arbitrarily.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes (if you think about it, the first block breaks with the software-as-protocol because eg it doesn't reference a prior block. rather than bake a test into code forever, more reasonable to just make it by hand.)
mircea_popescu: eh! i guess now Framedragger gets to make scriba read btcbase for a little bit...
mircea_popescu:
http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160920/#15 << not so ; the attitude as well as the possibility of success are of interest to the largest number of people speaking this language. especially if they currently don't know this. they may "proclaim irrelevant" whatever, but their green friend is interested in them.
mircea_popescu: much like a "press", it's a personal take on the lightcone as-it-is.
mircea_popescu: doesn't work, of course, but then again lemmings aren't looking for solutions ; merely for the appearance thereof.
mircea_popescu: in a sense getting rid of historical "orphans" is very much community-trying-to-insure against the nature of the blockchain.
mircea_popescu:
http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160919/#461 << technically you don't know it will be orphaned ever, because "being orphan" is not a quality of a block/chain. if tomorrow we decide to extend an "orphan" from 2014 and in the process strand extant bitcoin, we ~can~.
mircea_popescu: "dad, i want to put the cat's head on the dog's body, can i borrow your hair trimmer ?" "that won't work, it's too small and it will get clogged in blood. here's the chainsaw."
mircea_popescu: gotta be a lot more nurturing in the way of rope supplies, by your own theory ?
mircea_popescu: the ill gotta be curable at least on occasion, or else you're stuck explaining this place.
mircea_popescu: but it's also structurally broken ; because it fails to neatly reduce uncrowned king of universe via reduction to absurd. which is the measure of persuasion, apud socrates.
mircea_popescu: anyway. most of my concern is that your (plural) heartfelt advice is remarkably unpersuasive. gotta wonder wtf devil is at work here.
mircea_popescu: (i'm not even proposing it isn't, just wanna see what the showing would look like.)
mircea_popescu: trinque yah, but now it's in a much better formulation. at least to my taste.
mircea_popescu: trinque his objection is to the notion of "learn" and "knowledge" involved in that statement though, you might've noticed. and i don't really see it's altogether weak.
mircea_popescu: no, it's not just you, it's me too. but he didn't ask us!
mircea_popescu: give kid as much rope to hang self with as kid can carry.
mircea_popescu: it ~is~ as if all you wanna talk about is why he shouldn't do what he figures he wants to do. this isn't very bright, is it ?
mircea_popescu: "dad i wanna get married" "honeybunch, you'll get old and your tits will sag and it'll suck. don't get married, it's a dead end"
mircea_popescu: but anyway, leaving the discussion aside for a moment to focus on the meta discussion : am i the only one who's a little irked by the fact that kid wants to do x, gets list of instructions to not do x ? what is this, the nuclear family, elementary unit of the state ?
mircea_popescu: really, making a lisp that works for serious applications in this sense is outside his pay grade
mircea_popescu: myeah. afaik no statically linked mysql was yet made, which is kinda a first step
mircea_popescu: phf im pretty sure that if db-on-a-chip happens, it'll be mysql first. much to the chagrin of sane people.
mircea_popescu: ehehehe. did i mention very early trilema was discussing the eventual mysql chip ?
mircea_popescu: railroad bridge DOES need to be constructed out of toothpicks.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform YOU don't. because one's ideology, ie, theoretical insight, is a shield for that one.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a) all concepts are insane ; b) the only way this is ever usefully established is through prototyping.
mircea_popescu: trinque having a sane prototype is not a bad idea ; whether you can or you can't make it.
mircea_popescu: no but. everyone talking about his own thing! what is this!
mircea_popescu: yes. the "can't abstract broken software with other software" is a restatement of godel, "There may not exist specific algorithm A for any formal system F that includes statements of certain elementary mathematical truth as well as its own consistency so that A will create subsystem F' which is consistent and an homology of F"
mircea_popescu: you notice gossipd as specified is not related to implementation yes ?
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel dun mind the esteemed lords, they just hate young men for the obvious reason.
mircea_popescu: phf in his defense, nobody has any fucking patience to fuck with computers. if anyone did, they wouldn't be learning how to program.
mircea_popescu: trinque you see how horribru your error reporting is ? ?? ???
mircea_popescu: phf not exactly back, but only in the narrow strict sense that we are not alone.
mircea_popescu: "civilisation" begets totalitarianism you say ? who could have predicted!
mircea_popescu: so far other than the theory of lisp, there's no known way to do this other than "somone does the bruteforce for you on an exact copy of your machine"
mircea_popescu: but yes, your dream of "manpage magically adequate to the system it's on" is not entirely without dreampower.