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pete_dushenski: ah well then. maybe it was just another lulzy idea that was in fact
a thinly veiled hatchet job. alas.
BingoBoingo: Not
a disaster, would actually solve the mine subsidence problem in
a lot of areas
mod6: yeah, there will be
a time when discussions will start around
a project like this.
BingoBoingo: I figure 1993 flood level presents
a decent reservoir target
mod6: ah, yah, im sure bigger and better ones would be
a good thing, at some point.
BingoBoingo: stop them, in order to ship. Those two to three months time, it's
a lot
BingoBoingo once he completes the re-reading list would like to publish
a book, or at least
a lecture series title "The Will To Hodl"
☟︎ mod6: one line at
a time.
mircea_popescu: "what happens if
a miner includes
a bogus tx you say ? oh, the other miners would never extend that chain!" "wait, didn't those same other miners extend
a chain that failed the rulechange they supposedly voted for ?" "sfyl".
mircea_popescu: was
a flurry of "build confidence & establish trust" activity cca 2011 / early 2012.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's
a raft of cosmetic/credible fixes between .5 and .6.
polarbeard: ben_vulpes: lol, vi... I mean notepad.exe has
a plugin for that
mircea_popescu: hey, if the change is not obviously
a good thing it's probably
a bad idea. it pisses me the fuck off, but whatevs, i'll sed or something.
assbot: And Gavin moves on to the dark side. The Bitcoin project is officially hijacked on Trilema -
A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1MvB8Kx )
BingoBoingo: <danielpbarron> yeh, so is this still
a qntra article or..? << If you submit something with all of the point brought up it channel, its chance of publication is
a weighted coinflip. Depends what you can make of it.
mircea_popescu: fancy that, someone actually thought this is how you design
a function stack.
mircea_popescu: must point to ECDSA_size bytes of memory, the parameter type ~is ignored~). Meanwhile ECDSA_do_sign_ex() computes
a digital signature of the dgst_len bytes hash value dgst using the private key eckey and the optional precomputed values kinv and rp. The signature is returned in
a newly allocated ECDSA_SIG structure (or NULL on error).
mircea_popescu: ECDSA_sign() is wrapper function for ECDSA_sign_ex with kinv and rp set to NULL ; ECDSA_do_sign() is wrapper function for ECDSA_do_sign_ex with kinv and rp set to NULL. ECDSA_sign_ex() computes
a digital signature of the dgstlen bytes hash value dgst using the private EC key eckey and the optional pre-computed values kinv and rp. The DER encoded signatures is stored in sig and it's length is returned in sig_len. (sig
assbot: Logged on 22-01-2016 04:10:33; ben_vulpes: WHY NOT WRITE
A STYLE GUIDE WHILE WE'RE AT IT
mod6: yeah, and this should make it all easier going forward to create the vpatch. overall,
a good move sooner rather than later imho.
mircea_popescu: and yes ben_vulpes is writing
a style guide from what i understand
mod6: Yeah, sounds good. Thanks, want to get all of this done in
a sane order and timely fashion.
mircea_popescu: oh ok, my bad. so what i was thinking here is :
a) finish the patch ; b) do all the other stuff you were going to do in your own time ; c) when ready make
a new version ; d) take
a week off, during which everyone [who cares to] can write and run
a script to / /
mod6: (
a vpatch to tie them all together)
mod6: But it probably would have been the last thing to go into the tree before
a release patch.
mircea_popescu: i guess i unwittingly confused you, sorry about that. the S-patch was not actually intended to mark
a new release did it ?
mod6: Ok sounds good mircea_popescu. I'll stop my current work on the high/low patch. I'll spend this week getting the changes [.wot in the pwd, and mechanical post-patch hash checking] in V [v99996] released. Then I'll immediately begin work on
a re-alignment of all the patches we currently are distributing.
assbot: Logged on 25-01-2016 01:23:27; mod6: so what we want, is three different ways: no force one way or another, force high, or force low. remember, i originally didn't want to do
a force high at all. but since asciilifeform requested this, i'm entertaining this option.
mircea_popescu: so you get
a week off or something, during which people just run teh script and sign the results.
assbot: Logged on 25-01-2016 01:04:29; mod6: mircea_popescu, asciilifeform, ben_vulpes et. al., any further thoughts if we should clean up the code alignment (currently with spaces) post release and do
a one-time clean up with tabs?
ben_vulpes: perhaps fixing magic numbers is out of scope for
a patch to force s-values?
mod6: there was
a discussion around this, and decided to leave them in as
a result. will dig up...
ben_vulpes: appears to be
a wrapper around do_sign to some extent or another
ben_vulpes: ideally such
a thread would result in
a philosophical statement that'd guide future flags.
mod6: and asciilifeform, keep in mind that this is
a *must* fix. i think that is vastly important that we discuss this in channel.
ben_vulpes: i have
a hard time giving
a shit about the ergonomics when it's covered in finger-snipping blades already.
mod6: polarbeard: keep in mind that i considered all of this over
a week ago -- and decided against it. so yeah, i have put
a lot of thought into this.
mod6: from
a user standpoint, i feel like its more conusing anyway.
polarbeard: you can't, using
a single boolean, do you mean an int?
mod6: remember, i want
a default state to *not* require
a flag at all.
mod6: so what we want, is three different ways: no force one way or another, force high, or force low. remember, i originally didn't want to do
a force high at all. but since asciilifeform requested this, i'm entertaining this option.
☟︎ polarbeard: can't it be like
a three state flag? 0 -> no enforce, 1 -> enforce low, 2 -> enforce high
mod6: Or, we can halt everything else, and create
a new genesis and re-align, re-vpatch and re-sign everything.
mod6: So the difference in '
http://dpaste.com/2EZJVXA.txt' is that the block of code in Sign() is spaced with tabs. And to Mr. P.'s point it should probably be all in
a file or nothing. Otherwise its mis-matched. Some with spaces, some with tabs.
mod6: mircea_popescu, asciilifeform, ben_vulpes et. al., any further thoughts if we should clean up the code alignment (currently with spaces) post release and do
a one-time clean up with tabs?
☟︎ mod6: Also: From now on, if you are not in my WoT, and you are
a n00b here, any pm's will be ignored, and you will feed my ignore list.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> yeah cuz crazy argentines, they're like excited sheep in the airport. << haha, it was
a big crowd. You picked me out pretty quick.
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 14:40:14; mircea_popescu: "About
a week ago, this pretty girl messages me out of the blue and we hit it off. We talked that night up until 5 AM and we have so much things in common. > She loves Star Wars > Plays video games > All other super nerdy shit > Never met
a girl like that" << holy shit, this "all that much" evaluates to almost 0. wtf is wrong with people.
mod6: For posterity: Do not do this. If you get
a neg rating and you care about your wot ident, do be an adult and do as I said. Lot less problems and drama this way.
ben_vulpes: polarbeard: coulda kept the nick, but registered
a new key and we'd be in the same spot.
mircea_popescu: mod6 well basically, cause the concept of "
a man" is pretty much the key.
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6, polarbeard, asciilifeform, mircea_popescu: y'all follow? << this is my 0.00000002: If you don't trust
a man, no matter what his keyid is today, how can i ignore that and trust
a new ident? The correct thing to do as
a man, admit your mistake, and or ask for forgiveness and move on. Simple as that. We're all adults here.
mod6: heh, there was such
a crowd at the exit of the security area, me and Mr. P. walked right by eachother I think.
ben_vulpes: how could i know, jurov! i never saw
a keyid from you.
polarbeard: all I can say is that log rotation is daily business on most decent systems, but if anybody has
a rational answer against it I would not remove shitty-ghost-rotation from trb
polarbeard: ben_vulpes: sorry, I missed that one, I was talking about
a tool like logrotate
ben_vulpes: and given that the character's lost or whatevered those keys, i don't see any reason for
a) that to change or b) influence how the wot regards polarbeard
mircea_popescu: sorta like crossword puzzles, same thing.
a sort of cleverness.
mircea_popescu: the sad truth is that this is
a very specific sort of ideal.
mircea_popescu: more generally, there's no algebra with
a 1 but not
a 0 in this sense afaik.
mircea_popescu: not only "there's nothing common about common sense" - but there's
a very good reason for this. common sense is decentralized system poison.
assbot: Logged on 16-11-2015 21:01:21; ascii_field: would let you wander off to wherever spies go when
a war is over. You know why?' he said. 'No,' I said. 'Because you could never have served the enemy as well as you served us,' he said. 'I realized that almost all the ideas that I hold now, that make me unashamed of anything I may have felt or done as
a Nazi, came not from Hitler, not from Goebbels, not from Himmler — but from you.' He took my hand.
assbot: Logged on 16-11-2015 21:01:21; ascii_field: BingoBoingo: 'I didn't know that,' I said. 'No one knows everything,' he said. 'Did you know,' he said, 'that until almost this very moment nothing would have delighted me more than to prove that you were
a spy, to see you shot?' 'No,' I said. 'And do you know why I don't care now if you were
a spy or not?' he said. 'You could tell me now that you were
a spy, and we would go on talking calmly, just as w
mircea_popescu: there's nothing fundamentally wrong with being
a dozen different oens.
mircea_popescu: moreover, gpg is specificalloy intended to work as
a PSEUDONYMOUS system. much like bitcoin addresses are.
mircea_popescu: now we're all stuck sitting around looking at
a high strung dramatique discussion with
a missing antecedent.
BingoBoingo: polarbeard: The solution is not simply new name. It is building
a history and working towards the comprehensive exam.
polarbeard: mod6: I created
a new ident because I nuked my keys, but I understand your position, you could have told me I'm not welcomed as well, instead of talking to me
mod6: mircea_popescu: he was talking to me in pm when he decided not to reconcile with ben and created
a new ident. i can't sign stuff from
a guy who i know that my co-chair has neg-rated.