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usagi: Oh of course, it won't last forever, the market knows that or it would be 4BTC now
usagi: i didn't read about that
mjr_: i don't think i will get the return i'm looking for
usagi: Even with negative interest rates you don't have risk free.
mjr_: that doesn't take into account compounding
mjr_: you can't buy liquor in a dry county in america
mjr_: your money can't get you an alcoholic beverage
deadweasel: i don't think anyone should have guaranteed anything. I think people should live right, and that would all take care of itself.
usagi: I spent a long time living on the streets, and all I learned can be summed up as... the cream always rises to the top, and, you can't keep a good man down
usagi: mjr_ I don't know. The truth is, if you look at the people who end up starving on the streets a great majority of them cannot be helped by any system
usagi: "In absence of a proper education, most assume that society just arbitrarily decided to make gold money, and that any other commodity would have worked roughly as well. " This ewasn't mircea's talk
usagi: "And so, much of our lives is spent searching and grasping for something we don’t understand." -- this is very true. People have $20 in their pocket for most of their lives so they think they understand money, and they really don't.
jcpham: i was hoping it didn't happen again but if it's new i want to lol at it
mjr_: isn't that a super old video?
[\]: for a while, the header wasn't laying out correctly
Scrat: always looked like shit so I can't see the difference
Scrat: fiat500: no because it shows you that they couldn't handle simple things like that
mircea_popescu: fiat500 he's a kid, doing okay on the freedom of speech angle, i don't mind him
mircea_popescu: cause it wasn't in schiuuuuullll
dub: hey hey hey ,,this is 666 Satan's ultimate economic system.. if you wanna survive in the future have money to buy things you gonna need this. but also you can buy real sliver too, don't need this Satan damn shit thing thought .. we have to against them,, but you know,,the best hackers in the world can't even hack into them,, cause the logic is hard.. the password... etc... so what we can do is...nothing.. just pray for God.. you don't wanna live
dub: if you know something about bible you know bitcoin maybe it's 666 . maybe later you don't need a computer, just embed a chip into your hand ,. forehead , whatsoever,, and you can make a deal... holly crap.. if you want to survive in the future.. you gonna need this,, badly.. find many bitcoin for your future living... man . I am serious
fiat500: 22:28 < mircea_popescu> the middle east hasn't been fucked over by the "all equal" fallacy.
mircea_popescu: the middle east hasn't been fucked over by the "all equal" fallacy.
aknap3: seriously though, I think it won't be a huge issue. I think the third world will appreciate the value of and benefit from bitcoin more than the first world -- they get increased access to global markets, freedom from currency controls, plus they escape hyperinflation in their own currencies
aknap3: TAT: doesn't look like Jurarul auction sold out -- what do yu make of so many buys > 2.5 on AM-PT?
Scrat: can't go wrong
jurov: lol "butbutbut i don't want to know if it's feasible. i want to know if it will be good or bad for bitcoin economy"
mircea_popescu: "i want to own some bitcoins but i don't want to be bothered"
jurov: if it can;'t be arbed, then it is *useless* as any spot price indicator.
jurov: you want bitcoins now, but you can't 1:1 exchange them
jurov: how can you arb something that isn't convertible in both directions?
mircea_popescu: except the atkinson hawttie isn't related to rowan
mjr_: btc already does everything ripple does, and people haven't even implemented all the features it does have
mircea_popescu: mjr_ in that debt is not fungible, in that liquidity is not free, in that information is never symmetrical and in that closed models don't work fopr that application
mircea_popescu: fiat500 they were thinking they don't want to http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-future-of-bitcoin-regulation/
mjr_: TBH, I don't think that OpenCoin's hilariously bad presentation and ponzi is the real problem with ripple, i think that it is a fundamentally bad system
mjr_: so doesn't the whole thing kinda break down without everyone trusting?
mjr_: apparently, you can change the trust settings so it won't by default equate anyones coins with an exchanges coins
mjr_: can't wait to go back
mircea_popescu: i don't like it. hot and humid. you're like trapped in a vagina
mircea_popescu: well i don't go on safaris in africa as it is either
mjr_: i find it hilarious that they won't bring billions of dollars back to the US
mircea_popescu: well i don't have a browser capable of rendering that atm
mjr_: and if you think your idea will get stolen you probably shouldn't be in any business
usagi: Actually there are some photos I just took that I didn't put up yet.. but they're on my camera :)
usagi: The advertisement is a bit weak coming from the issuer, but, I guarantee I won't make any money from TU.SILVER
usagi: Tu.SILVER isn't really about selling silver coins or operating a silver fund
usagi: The problem isn't with deprived's questions, it's with stuff like "usagi failed to answer my questions and deleted my post"
usagi: I can't believe there are still people that are feeding on that bs
usagi: They didn't use the spreadsheets I published. They altered them.
usagi: Pigeon was used. He didn't know what he was doing, and he apologized to me. I like pigeons now.
usagi: Oh god don't start that again lol
usagi: TAT don't play the politics game it doesn't look good on you.
usagi: Deprived was being paid by MPOE-PR to trash my rep on the forums. Don't be a dick.
usagi: The truth is, if you start asking questions about Deprived's books, he won't even tell you what he's holding, but he will start swearing at you on the forums
usagi: Then don't repeat deprives shit
usagi: He didn't :)
usagi: I called Deprived on his contract and he couldn't show he had the money he claimed he had
usagi: deprived doesn't really know very much but he is very vocal
usagi: i don't speak japanese
usagi: Yeah sorry I don't live in america I don't get that kind of humor anymore lol
usagi: I really don't like liars.
usagi: i don't care about nice.. i care about honest
charybdis: I didn't know you were into bitcoin stuff
mircea_popescu: the latter aren't acceptable. the former are.
mircea_popescu: well let's distinguish between bets of local interest and bets that can't be resolved.
furuknap: Well, I'm moving to Costa Rica. I really can't have this anymore. You're on your own for a few days. Bye.
furuknap: Ah, c'mon, I pop out for a few days and you guys crash the BTC price? I can't leave you people alone without supervision for a minute, can I? *tsk*
Scrat: tapping tiny links isn't user friendly
Scrat: what you have there isn't really usable on a cellphone
Scrat: aren't*
mjr___: but it doesn't look horrible on an iphone
mjr___: there is supposedly a fix, but it didn't work for me
mjr___: it doesn't render the whole area
mjr___: doesn't show anything useful yet
toffoo: then maybe I don't feel as bad about the 1.4 btc he owes me...
dub: can't make a backup, can whiteknight for his butt buddy nefario
mjr___: basically like if i was on facebook, and people know me there, but then on twitter people don't know me at all...either i use same username on both (ok) or i list both usernames on both accounts in order to establish link
mjr___: random doesn't care about WoT
mjr___: doesn't need to be identified unless you want to do something involving WoT
mjr___: haven't seen the page
mjr___: i was struggling with learning this framework and couldn't figure out how to only let users cancel their own orders
mjr___: by the way, location SHOULD update as you walk around...not sure cuz i haven't tested, but that is how its built
mjr___: in fact, not to toot my own horn, i don't think its that easy to adjust orders on any "real" exchange
mjr___: nfc doesn't require bumping does it?
mjr___: we don't bump phones
mjr___: not to say there won't be any
mjr___: so far, we haven't had any issues
mjr___: well, none of them have asked us any questions and we aren't being quiet about it
mjr___: older gentlemen who aren't good at computers
bitbuyer_m: I take out 300 at ATM and don't worry Bout being mugged
mjr___: LOL, but the worldwide system of local exchanges shouldn't be affected
bitbuyer_m: I haven't lived in NYC since 04 so probably yuppified
mjr___: bitbuyer_m: yes, exactly, and even if they weren't...for most non investor enterprise people, the process is too much bother
mjr___: and we aren't holding or sending money
mjr___: first off, i don't like serif fonts online
KRS-1: No worries I don't need that chan I own #btc-anal now
mircea_popescu: no they can't.
mircea_popescu: anyway, what exactly are you trying to do that you can't do right now ?
mircea_popescu: KRS-1 you know if you misspell my handle i don't get a ding