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mod6: <+diana_coman> this one: http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/02/20/eucrypt-corecting-error-in-oaep-check/ << this seems to have fixed it
a111: Logged on 2018-03-03 07:58 diana_coman: mod6, thank you for the detailed write-up on the vpatch issue; I'm not sure it makes sense or even helps to name as "chapters" fixes so people don't miss them in the future since this happened with the mpi_fix before just the same
phf: ty, also http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-03#1786835 is a solid scheme, and i wouldn't want to see it go, i'll just be more attentive in the future ☝︎
diana_coman: that's why it failed on anything that wasn't either 8*n or 8*n + 1
diana_coman: phf, any bitrate above 1600 will correctly fail there since bitrate cannot be more than the total length of state (and that's 1600 unless you change the knobs); this being said, there IS an error too and it's one of those that show I need to sleep more: I got ToPos and FromPos flipped around and failed to notice it ...; so big thank you for testing this! correction, patch & post coming later today
diana_coman: mod6, thank you for the detailed write-up on the vpatch issue; I'm not sure it makes sense or even helps to name as "chapters" fixes so people don't miss them in the future since this happened with the mpi_fix before just the same ☟︎
diana_coman: I'll have a look at the bitstream /rate issue too, thank you; I'll get back later today on it
diana_coman: phf, the oaep_fix_checks seems to be missing and that's possibly also creating trouble otherwise since you're running the code without the fix
phf: i get identical result if i play with bitstream sizes (including changing bin to 1-base)
phf: diana_coman: when i run this code http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/cW0FU/ i get the output http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ZDEOs/?raw=true
mod6: My vtron also fails on this as well. I have a whole write up here. Stand by:
phf: diana_coman: btcbase is claiming that i'm missing proper antecedents for smg_oaep.adb/ads, but i think i have all your vpatches. can you please check http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=eucrypt&search= and let me know if i'm missing something
mircea_popescu: if it's not one it's gotta be the other...
BingoBoingo: Aha, photo from a few weeks ago, taken for that reason.
asciilifeform sees BingoBoingo's photo, and nearly asks 'where didja get the SGI Indigo' and then realizes 'suitcase'
BingoBoingo: Ah yeah, the girlie reactions to the cold depend on sirve o no
mircea_popescu: then again there's that scene with teeny bopper chicks at the north sea, on the "beach", wind so cutting i was glad for my greatcoat. im sure it's in the logs somewhere but beyond 5 minute's search.
BingoBoingo: Brasileros break out the heavy coats when night temperatures fall below 20C, the Uruguayos tend to use lighter jackets and give it a few more degrees 16-18C is when their low temperature reactions get triggered.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It is a fine degree less innocence than say... the Brasileros
asciilifeform: speaking of wind, possibly record-breaking wind atm in asciilifeformistan, wooden hovel groaning, trees breaking
mircea_popescu: then again locals' notions of what constitutes coldness show a clear innocence of the arctic.
BingoBoingo: Otherwise I am told it gradually gets colder, windier, and wetter. Like a Latino London barely lucky enough to avoid snow.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Prime as in the country expects guests coming for the beaches, and there being the tourism infastructure turned on in case you want to do some sightseeing.
mircea_popescu: it's about the same, 1200ish +- 100 via panama if bought 2-3 weeks in advance
BingoBoingo: The prime window to take trips is before the end of this month when summer ends and the tourism allegedly disappears.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: seems like it is indeed my turn.
mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform, how are we getting the nsa boxen over to uruguay ? you feel like taking a trip ?
mod6: Thanks for outlining all of this.
mircea_popescu: (in this discussion, the $ stands for the dollar, which however denotes the taler, a weight of gold (or perhaps sivler ? highly contentious matter at the time, this), not fictitious lincolnite bs.)
mircea_popescu: literally, you're buying from the bank the putting of the bank in the position of having eaten in your restaurant.
mircea_popescu: JUST SO, the bank ~sold~ people bills to itself. if you pay the bank $5, you get in exchange... a bill for $5, that you can give to the bank, as if the bank had sat in your restaurant and ate $5 worth. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: much like the reason dollar bills are called BILLS is because banks came up with the bright idea of selling... bills to themselves. you know how if you go to the restaurant and eat there, they bring you a bill, which you oblige yourself to pay ?
mircea_popescu: and since we're doing history lesson : the reason the option is called "CALL" is because of its functional equivalence to the... calling of capital for subscribed shares. basically what you're selling there is the... right for someone to... CALL the cash equity as if the share had just been subscribed. you "resubscribe" it so to speak, it's a fictitious revirgination of the holy mother.
mircea_popescu: it's also a confusion of layers to name employees in the charter. what happens if you decide to hire ben_vulpes' son to manage it eventually, recharter ?
mircea_popescu: this aside -- you certainly can also have the foundation simply hold a convertible debt ; but bear in mind that it can't possibly hold a seat on the board until such a time as it converts that bond and gets shares.
mircea_popescu: so something like "pizarro incorporated, issued 1`100`000 shares with a par value of 100 satoshi each, subscribed by mod6 (500`000) ; asciilifeform (500`000) and TBF (100`000)" would be more in the regular form of these things.
mircea_popescu: and from thence to this day, shares are subscribed, then their capital is called up and paid.
mircea_popescu: then as the preliminaries were done and the thing was starting to move capital was "called up", ie, joe you underwrote 10`000 shares, now's the time to pay up so and so moneys.
mircea_popescu: pices in the ferrara market"). this then was called the "authorized capital". 3. the item was then circulated (among the savy, the l2 of the time) and all those interested in participation wrote their name at the bottom of the paper (subscribed, or underwrote. the term is still used in insurance, very much in this sense).
mircea_popescu: mod6 the usual terminology re shares is "subscribed". the reason has to do with history. the way business has worked (mostly in italy, which is where it was invented, five centuries ago) was that 1. some people got together united by their recognition of a solution to some problem ; 2. that then evaluated the costs of implementing such solution (often the case -- the cost was to outfit a ship and the problem was "there's no s
mircea_popescu: mod6 where's the charter itself ?
ben_vulpes: it works everywhere but trilema, sadly
mod6: ah, yeah, it's slightly more grey than the others. stars here: jurov: ben_vulpes: and the foundation loan == Stock Warrant #1 in pizarro's report?
mircea_popescu: but since we're on this, i suspect the lack of readout bot is the principal bar to bvulpes log adoption ; not that i expect you gas at this juncture
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i compared numbers, comes to a jurov line
mod6: hmm. i dont think so?
mod6: Awesome, thank you!
mircea_popescu: sure. ima read it today an' let you know.
mod6: mircea_popescu: Can I get your opinion on this quick regarding the Charter for Pizarro?
mircea_popescu: and in breakfast suggestions : slice homemade bread, spread aguacate on it, flake smoked trout atop the aguacate, cut sweet red onion on top of the trout, serve with a mug of leche agria on your balcony of splendid views.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-problem-with-christians/ << Trilema - The problem with christians
mircea_popescu: i might propose to you that perhaps the more pressing problem isn't how you store your coin but how you populate your thinking table ; but i suspect you are already well aware.
Guest45857: Is this guide still valid? http://trilema.com/2013/how-to-airgap-a-practical-guide/
Guest45857: thanks for the article. I'll do my due diligence swapping storage solution asap
mircea_popescu: shouldn't you have been already aware of this ? if the "trezor" wasn't patent medicine, that is ?
mircea_popescu: there is not at present anything significantly better ; and it is crap. not a matter of it "being considered", it is sheer crap, provedly so, on its own factual record of usage that it won't face or consider, let alone theoretical consideration by people who (unlike the rank imbeciles involved in its production) actually understand the world.
Guest45857: so i assume is considered crap. Asking this cause i've one and i was thinking to be on the safe side. Should i discard every hardware wallet or is there something significantly better than trezor?
mircea_popescu: yes well, let's not confuse the inept products of idiots with the broader categories. trezor is a specific piece of shit, not something as lofty as "a hardware wallet".
mircea_popescu: seems plenty, how did you try to navigate ?
mircea_popescu: !#s trezor
Guest45857: tried to navigate through logs but nothing relevant found about it
Guest45857: hello, i would like to ask about trezor security. in your opinion is safer a properly air gapped computer or specific hardware wallet like trezor?
asciilifeform: i'ma definitely think. but presently asciilifeform must go and tea and then backtowurk. so bbl.
mircea_popescu: as a dry-run for the eventual iron production.
mircea_popescu: the whole idea of 0-footprint is to have something you can unroll into iron.
mircea_popescu: mno. too large device.
mircea_popescu: idea is for it to be a push-button stick, so you can !!v from internet cafe without worry.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i thought you already had one of these tho. the dos lappy.
mircea_popescu: so basically ima have to make a new nsa to make the item in question ?
mircea_popescu: (re the above fg, it ain't for sale ; we'll eventually make a new batch, but it isn't a high priority yet.)
asciilifeform: there unfortunately is also not a shit-to-gold converter in or out of the republic.
mircea_popescu: there is no magic outside of the republic.
asciilifeform: there is no magic in this world.
asciilifeform: lol i also signed the original. but it is still kochware.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman signed it, what r u talking ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no kochware involved though.
asciilifeform: while i have a few min on the clock : attn folx : there are 7 unsold FG units in my inventory; of which 6 are currently installed in snsa boxen waiting for their day in the rack; this leaves 1 'bachelor' FG. if someone wishes to buy this one, talk to mircea_popescu for where to pay.
asciilifeform: it so happens that i've designed exactly such a device. but it will be filled with ffaware, not koch. and all things in their proper time.
asciilifeform: oh it's in the log isnnit.
asciilifeform: let's posit that asciilifeform were willing to put his signature ever again on kochware. ( he ain't. ) how would the key get on the device ? ( i.e. is this exactly the orig cardano ? )
BingoBoingo: That is the kicker.
mircea_popescu: spyked that's an epic 2010 piece, im translating.
mircea_popescu: slightly but essentially different through hard earned intangibles aka experience.
mircea_popescu: should self-populate with a key by contact with a fg, and should be able to readily destroy the key.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform obviously the question becomes : should ave1 complete the 0-footprint eucrypt wrapper, can the next nsa product be a push-button decryptor -- specificaly a usb-like stick with a button, which produces a decrypted.filename for every filename found on stick at button push ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: appreciate the continued scrutiny, will respond tomorrow
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the saga continues (and also, you have what looks like a stranded > right after the "leave your comment" heading)
trinque: nobody could have predicted scrolling and searching in weechat at the same time.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: There is plenty of source material to cite. Care to write up for Qntra a summary of February's events in the Republic?
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/heres-how-pantsuitism-christianity-ruined-civilisation-in-both-the-ancient-and-the-modern-world/ << Trilema - Here's how pantsuitism / christianity ruined civilisation, in both the Ancient and the Modern world.
BingoBoingo: Disfruta tu almuerzo
jhvh1: ben_vulpes: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: !~later tell PeterL i've responded to your comment
a111: Logged on 2018-03-01 20:01 phf: diana_coman: i was also getting some boundary issues with different bitrate issues, i couldn't figure out if it can take any natural value, or there's some specifica subranges that i have to stick to. when i spot checked with values like 1200 (or whatever), it would fail deep inside absorbblock. i'll test it again not that i have a bit of free time and see if i can reproduce
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-01#1786657 << sounds like all the makings of a beautiful race condition. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: note though that base-whatever is in fact more compact than hexencode.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't have to follow any format but reason.
mircea_popescu: pipe though! i want cat x.txt > rrsa -aer stan > y.txt or some sane equivalent.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-01 19:03 ave1: mircea_popescu, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-28#1786498, which parts of gpg (I can image plain text signing, encryption and decryption).?
a111: Logged on 2018-03-01 19:03 ave1: mircea_popescu, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-28#1786498, which parts of gpg (I can image plain text signing, encryption and decryption).?