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assbot: Logged on 04-02-2016 13:17:04; PeterL: ambuguous: when something is so ambiguous it has
a bug hidden inside somewhere
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski when you get back we gotta have
a conversation about jokes
mircea_popescu: yeh. i mean the inkling is good, but this seems
a footnote in something else.
BingoBoingo: The magic pisstank turns out to be placebo when comes to NOx apparently... But I guess this is
a bit much for that point.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo so i'm reading here
a 500 word opinion piece about mercedes in qntra. why ? not newsy, not bitcon-y, not funny, what is it.
BingoBoingo: It's like software. Person puts
a lot of effort into something and it still comes out turd.
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: " It took nitrous oxide intoxication temporarily reducing his mental faculties in
a particular way to grasp the Hegelian program as its proponents did." << GIGA-L0L
BingoBoingo: ascii_butugychag: At this rate mebbe just surprise us with
a block cipher in obfusticated C? Make money taking bets on how long it takes for people to figure out what ciper was pulled out of the hat?
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: It's your turn to toss
a blockcipher at ascii_butugychag
BingoBoingo after
a couple more weeks of reading disappointed in latest blogpost on social engineering. Was way too charitable to historical Hegel.
PeterL: ambuguous: when something is so ambiguous it has
a bug hidden inside somewhere
☟︎ AaronvanW: it's supposed to be pretty sweet jurov. I'm not from
a nordic country though
mod6: but not for at least
a week. i need some time to look into that and to let people test the beta patch. i want to get these resolved so we can move on.
mod6: so yah, if i can get something figured out for that bug, maybe there will be
a beta2 patch.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> second call for least-hated block cipher ??? << fucking the least ugly girl at the party means you'll do
a lot of uglies.
mircea_popescu: <TomServo> I've finally got
a node past the wedge, and there was much rejoicing << wd.
mod6: I'll keep this in mind as
a test case.
mod6: ok, thanks, i've been working on
a fix for
a similar thing, actually, which is related to
a similar test by ben_vulpes -- but haven't completed it yet.
gernika: mod6: testing out v99995. I notice that if I attempt to press
a non-existant v.patch, there is no error, and it goes ahead and presses *something* (seems to generate the full source in the target dir). Not sure if this is intended behavior or not.
mats: looks like garza hostname belongs to
a vpn
mod6: <+TomServo> I've finally got
a node past the wedge, and there was much rejoicing << Rejoice!
phf: so in my gossipd attempt i'm basically just slinging gpg packets over the wire. have
a little state machine that reads/validates openpgp packets from the wire. that doesn't work for streams though.. (in before eww)
TomServo: if these are also dumped to debug.log, I'm
a dope and missed them
TomServo: re: the conversation of logging earlier, I tend to launch bitcoind within
a tmux session and have seen errors dumped to console after
a hang/crash
TomServo: I've finally got
a node past the wedge, and there was much rejoicing
adlai: Carli-: have you ever heard of "feature creep"? being able to specify
a feature, which is related to an existing program, doesn't mean the same program should include that feature
BingoBoingo: In
a useful OS you can | things all over the place
Carli-: mircea_popescu: iirc, the only thing that "touches"-- you can burn
a CD/USB (qrcode?) of the transaction from the offline wallet. Also, it lets u run Multiple Wallets at the same time-- is there
a way to do this in bitcoin-qt?
BingoBoingo: Armory's biggest selling point was
a "badass" name it could use to hook n00bz.
mircea_popescu: "Cold storage was innovated by the Armory Bitcoin wallet. Armory provide
a first-of-its-kind interface for easily managing offline wallets for true cold storage. "
mircea_popescu: what distinction do you do there ? so you sign the txn on one system, and dump it as
a rawtx on another. this is
a big deal somehow ?
Carli-: adlai: is there
a guide, that you recommend for that?
Carli-: adlai: How do you make
a transaction while keeping the wallet offline?
trinque: mod6: I just built 99996 plus funkenstein's importprivkey patch btw, bout to give it
a go
mod6: asciilifeform: any objections to me replacing those vpatches on the mirror now, or should I wait for you to give them
a try first?
Carli-: i saw
a blog that linked to this channel, adlai
Carli-: asciilifeform: cool, is there
a guide that you recommend to do " pre-generated tx" ?
adlai: asciilifeform: would it still be correct to say that there is no intent that people use trb as
a wallet? or at least, use the same trb as
a network node and
a wallet node?
adlai: this is an operational concern. the bitcoin node software doesn't even need to know what
a private key is!
Carli-: asciilifeform: well, the point is to keep your private keys on
a Air-gapped computer offline forever
phf: i thought gpgme spawns
a child process and keeps it around. still pushing all that data around is expensive..
adlai: there are some use cases for it, sure. but there's
a reason that they weren't automatically merged in despite being invented by the same people
Carli-: asciilifeform: so you can back up your wallet to
a piece of paper once, only 18 words long is the "seed"
Carli-: asciilifeform: And you can run Multiple wallets at the same time. Is there
a way to do that with bitcoin-qt? I am trying to figure that out
BingoBoingo: Just enough rope for
a person to shoot themself in the foot when they get surprised that rope does that
felipelalli: mircea_popescu, thank you mircea to understand my motivation. Yes, I tried to help. The "magic" to make the thing easy was to derivate
a bitcoin keypair from the username+password using scrypt. I understand this can be unsafe if the user uses
a bad password, but like you said, it is just to let the lazy people to taste the power of wot.
mircea_popescu: felipelalli the reason you're getting so much grief is that it's not clear how your premises work. i mean i get it, you want to help people, and teach them about otc and so on. this is one thing. but i mean what did you do, i don't follow, reimplement gpg as
a java thing ?
felipelalli: I'll put
a link to source code and in Github I'll put the jar in "releases" section. I think it is better in this way at least while the app isn't so mature yet.
felipelalli: BingoBoingo, ahahh yes. But there is no special code to WIN32 actually in Java. The "exe" was just
a wrapper. But if the guy can't execute
a jar in Windows he just won't be able to use WoT anyway.
felipelalli:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-02-2016#1395886 << thank you mircea_popescu - the article I am writing starts with
a quote made by your PR translated to Portuguese: "Se você não tem uma conta WoT você não faz parte do ecossistema Bitcoin. Esse é o critério, não importa o que você possa achar. É onde todos olham, não importa o que alguma rede social tem dito pra você. Se você não está no WoT você não está no
☝︎ pete_dushenski: "Mr. Alverado said those fake buildings were necessary because getting to the first page in Google results now took ingenuity and cunning. “You have no idea,” he said, sounding
a little weary when asked about competition. Israelis were his toughest rivals, he said, and they had instilled
a kind of awe in him. “I can tell you point-blank, they are freaking smart,” he said. “I really admire them.”"
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Derps derping their way out is bullish for
a 2013 replay. All we need now is RealSolid returning with yet another altcoin scam.
pete_dushenski: "Along the way, we accumulated
a mess of legal and corporate complexity that has made it difficult to do anything constructive with Armory's intellectual property." <--> "You think you want to take dollar investment, you think you want to make
a non-Bitcoin company ? Think again. Think long, think hard, and start with this : what makes you think
a fiat company is even possible anymore ?"
mircea_popescu: istory is
a byword for dead and buried, which ties into why he will never be able to write
a book.
mircea_popescu: "I could probably write
a book about the depth and complexity of events of the past year, the lessons I've learned and the personalities I've dealth with. However, at this point it's all history, and I've always been more interested in planning the future than dwelling too much on the past." << no, he couldn';t write
a book. not anymore than boshiman could build
a city on all the land he walks. moreover, orc imagines h
pete_dushenski: "Blockstream,
a tech startup that employs several core developers of the bitcoin protocol, has raised $55 million in venture capital to develop its sidechain technology and expand its global operations." [...] "Horizons Ventures, AXA Strategic Ventures and Digital Garage led the Series
A funding round, which brings the startup's total venture funding to $76 million to date." << all this paper (and cardamon smell) and
phf: mircea_popescu: i'm not groking but i realized that i need to take
a break and eat instead of derping on
a computer any longer, so i'll get back to you on that one
assbot: Logged on 03-02-2016 20:46:53; ascii_butugychag: that is, currently,
a shiva runtime is destroyed on hangup
mircea_popescu: meaning that all those contributed and the press depends on either
a set made out of alf or
a set made out of mod6
mircea_popescu: well... for
a while i kept sending it nonraw dpastes, but hey.
assbot: Logged on 03-02-2016 20:44:23; BingoBoingo: Of all the #b-
a projects, deedbot's probably up there for frustration induced
assbot: Logged on 03-02-2016 20:40:10; danielpbarron: thestringpuller, i got into it with
a fairly popular girly about "nice guys" and sexual dominance or something; turns out i think we were agreeing with eachother without realizing it
assbot: Successfully added
a rating of 2 for fghj with note: very useful Eulora noob
pete_dushenski: bitcoin's too complicated, too barbed, too thorny, too messy, and too time-consuming for sortakindausers. this is obviously an asset in
a great many ways, but it can still be frustrating for persistent folks. not that this is news to everyone beating prb into trb....
pete_dushenski: but that's what you get for sucking mike hearn's dong and expecting
a cream soda to come gushing out.
pete_dushenski: so if it sounds shitty to have
a node blackholed, imagine having
a ~privkey~ blackholed.
pete_dushenski: the alternative (atm) is
a ~fixed~ set of peers determined at random on start-up, as seen in 'multibit', which i can tell you from first hand experience this week has not been broadcasting select transactions from select keys. at all. and this is in no way fixable.
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assbot: Logged on 03-02-2016 17:01:32; ascii_butugychag: these things spend
a good chunk of their time not node-in !1111