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mircea_popescu: i'm not telling you how to grasp things, you're the one that keeps going "no true scotsman would go around without a parasol" or w/e.
mircea_popescu: if i see void alfun (1, 2, 3, 4 .. 26); ima think you can't code.
asciilifeform: what next, if i need to define an operator i also fucked up ?
mircea_popescu: in 6th or 7th grade at some point i discovered sums and the sigma. i was enchanted for about a year. throughout highschool i just wrote them out.
mircea_popescu: look... i read what i read. what do you want from me ?
ben_vulpes: i've been digging, but the line's not showing in the logs.
asciilifeform: i must've slept through this.
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 17:40:46; ascii_butugychag: and i'm not interested in writing word 'nabla' instead of ∇ every time !111
thestringpuller: i see him on steam occassionaly. must have taken early retirement.
thestringpuller: LOL smickles has only beeng gone a year. I thought it was longer than that.
danielpbarron: ben_vulpes> you played trader without spreadsheets? << what is it for? I use strictly txt files in my various Eulora activities
BingoBoingo: Ah, I missed that part
mircea_popescu: i remember we kinda had enough of the shit at the same time and that guy, what's his name, the accountant guy ended up inheriting it all
BingoBoingo: Summer 2013. After I'd visited here and before I was sitting here full time
mircea_popescu: feels like 30 fucking years, i reemember it as from under a concrete slab.
mircea_popescu: that and some worm hole digging, i recall going with hanbot
BingoBoingo: Nah the smaller thing. By the time I trained to the obelisk is about when I bored out of eve. Fucking jumps
mircea_popescu: but i do recall BingoBoingo did a bunch of hauls in one of those what were they called ? obelisk ?
mircea_popescu: i think i had them haul 5 bn worth of isk in 10-20mn installments
mircea_popescu: in tyhe end i was using that society, what was their name
BingoBoingo: The things I have to see
mircea_popescu: anyway, the bitcoin eve society had like... a space station fully built and i dun remember how many of the not-titan class ships, a dozen or some shit
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 15:21:54; copypaste: i very much love the concept of a 3d game with a bitcoin economy. i've played a few, but all poorly done.
mircea_popescu: if you think i'm about to load my head with random strings...
ben_vulpes: mwell i owe ya one
asciilifeform: and useless in that i never found a serious use for it
ben_vulpes: i caught snippets over the oar, looking forward to it.
mircea_popescu: shinohai a few people have asked, which is why i said.
BingoBoingo: Other commands may emerge, but bloom filter request is the only one I have seen in the wild.
BingoBoingo: I mean before using the patch. I've only seen bloom filter from multibit/Shildebach et al hit my node.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I haven't seen any other commands in debug.log yet. Perhaps leave a comment on post?
jurov: i'm tired and want sleep, whoever is doing qntra, can have it
jurov: <ThomasV> [20151130 17:24] that's my point. I think nobody would use a closed source fork
jurov: <Tribaal> [20151130 17:23] ThomasV: How so? If my fork steals your wallet, I would be pretty sure you'd mind :)
jurov: <ThomasV> [20151130 17:22] Tribaal: I would not be too concerned about closed-source forks, in the case of Bitcoin software.
jurov: "Hello, thanks for asking, but I refuse to change the license of my contribution. I cannot with clear conscience recommend a Bitcoin wallet with closed source modifications. Would you use one yourself, really?"
mircea_popescu: and i'm one of the few guys that publicly burned the coran.
mircea_popescu: guruvan i like isis a lot more than i like mit.
jurov: "I need your agreement in order to republish your contributions under the MIT license. The reason for relicensing Electrum is two-fold: firstly, we want to make Electrum more attractive to developers looking to integrate lightweight Bitcoin functionality into their systems, and a more permissive license is helpful in this regard."
thestringpuller: i didn't know it was news cuz coinbase.
thestringpuller: damn i wanted that story
punkman: wonky definition but I like the name
ascii_butugychag: this is, i know, sad.
ascii_butugychag: actually like most folks living in usa who do any machine work, i own two sets of everything.
mircea_popescu: i have been known to
ascii_butugychag: i'm entirely with iverson on this one.
phf: as far as i understand, the point is to walk with mp to his vantage point to see something or other. for example that the railroad runs from hitlertown to the work camps. pretty sure he'll just be delighted if you invited him to your own private railroad that goes from your living quarters to your wineries.
ascii_butugychag: but since it was referred to, i assumed mircea_popescu was thinking of the idea.
mircea_popescu: i dunno who wanted "the railroads" out of reality.
ascii_butugychag: but more like what i wanted out of the net to begin with.
ascii_butugychag: not 'save some time.' but ABLE TO DEAL IN CONCEPTS of the level i deal in, AT ALL
ascii_butugychag: if all of the railroads are in the hands of hitler, it does not follow that i ought to take an interest in travel by oxcart.
ascii_butugychag: i thought it was because it was solid brick with no flotational volume ?
mircea_popescu: the only reason she exists is the perhaps well intended, but also castrated inclination of educated males to go "oh, i wonder what the hyeroglypsh mean, can't be discarded out of hand"
mircea_popescu: the only reason her bullshit sinks, however, is that i do not permit symbologistics.
mircea_popescu: i don't think the postmodern symbological deluge has any sort of match or point of comparison.
ascii_butugychag: and i notice they aren't abusing integral signs
mircea_popescu: look at lacan's "work" to truly see what i mean, and look at all the junk coming out of the usg's 3rd generation to truly know what i mean
phf: mircea_popescu: aaah now i see what you mean by obscurantist claptrap
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 18:45:40; phf: i've spent most of my college years learning math by sometimes translating problem into sexp and running it inside lisp, to get a hang of the numeric or combinatoric behavior of the problem. there were parts of the problem that were easier to grok in sexp and then there were parts that i eventually wrote an approximation of latex formula reader for. i don't really have a clear idea of where the boundry is thoug
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-01-2016#1366919 << this is uncontroversial i think ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 18:46:27; mircea_popescu: this "you gotta run the city in which i wrote the letter to read the letter" thing is for the birds.
mircea_popescu: you'll note that variety speak or no variety speak, i can explain the whole thing or any part to anyone of any persuasion. that i may not feel like expending the effort for any random derp is true, but also not germane.
mircea_popescu: i ain't building no cities to read anything, ever.
mircea_popescu: this "you gotta run the city in which i wrote the letter to read the letter" thing is for the birds. ☟︎
phf: i've spent most of my college years learning math by sometimes translating problem into sexp and running it inside lisp, to get a hang of the numeric or combinatoric behavior of the problem. there were parts of the problem that were easier to grok in sexp and then there were parts that i eventually wrote an approximation of latex formula reader for. i don't really have a clear idea of where the boundry is though ☟︎
ben_vulpes: is HOSTALIASES a thing on linuxen besides ubuntu? v-dns sounds nifty, but i'd like to maintain my own entries.
mircea_popescu: i can if you wish pick a page of strings theory for you to transform into any other theoretical framweork of your choice. but might as well take a page of source from gcc and write the lisp.
mircea_popescu: <phf> presumably mp disagrees with iverson's "notation as a tool of thought" paper in principle << i do not. i do however disagree with the theory that tool is substitute sufficient.
mircea_popescu: now : i do not propose that this is either better, or obligatory for anyone else. whoever can fuck whatever bottle they most like. but i also can't let stand this theory that somehow obscurantist claptrap is the only way to think.
mircea_popescu: if im stuck with reading some "maximum thought" concoction i have to spell it out and read it anyway.
mircea_popescu: why not use पॢ, i wonder.
mircea_popescu: which part of what i said dja actually disagree with ?
ascii_butugychag: what other notational element, i wonder, would he have us give up? matrix ?
mircea_popescu: as we speak i hold all the pages i hold anyway.
mircea_popescu: i never had a problem.
mircea_popescu: i'll tell you that i do prefer spellking out "sum x over y for i to j" than squiggling it up. heck, i have the girls read out bash commands explaining what they do.
mircea_popescu: what, do i not count ? is systems theory not math ?
phf: pdf is ~plaintext~ container format that lets you encode an hierarchical structure of nodes of type. there's a handful of standard node types geared towards fixed page layout. there's also a handful of types that let you embed content, i.e. inline a binary blob <</Filter/FlateDecode/Length 10>>stream....10 bytes....endstream. latex produces pdfs with intimate awareness of the format's abilities, i.e. sensible plain text nodes that
BingoBoingo: Anyways guruvan I'm glad you stopped by. Keep coming back, it works when you work it.
guruvan: BingoBoingo: classic - banning light clients is now censorship - I'll let who I like connect to my nodes tyvfm
ascii_butugychag: and i notice that mircea_popescu links to bitmaps of gurlz, not homeric descriptions in 10,000 words...
mircea_popescu: but i do not wish to see them, pray with them, and so following.
ascii_butugychag: trinque: a good and necessary thing in mathematics. but i don't want to view them with eyes!
guruvan: I see you guys still remember how bitcoin works :)
guruvan: saw that - can hadly believe it's been so long since I've been in here
ascii_butugychag: and i'm not interested in writing word 'nabla' instead of ∇ every time !111 ☟︎
trinque: ascii_butugychag: there is python (or cursed rubby) which is "more compact" like your equation, yet I prefer lisp
ascii_butugychag: and i don't always like the notation.;
ascii_butugychag: 'i wanna hug a gurl not a set of loose guts'
ascii_butugychag: i agree, whole thing oughta be a sexpr underneath
mircea_popescu: how do i SEARCH for "arrow pointing like this" ? hm ?
mircea_popescu: suppose i want the circles filled in red. what now ?
mircea_popescu: i see no indication as to how the arrows go.
mircea_popescu: you can't dance anyway. i was asking the ozy nboob
ascii_butugychag: if i can't read, say, http://www.complexity.ethz.ch/education/Lectures/ComplexityHS10/ScriptChapterTwelve WITHOUT ANY degradation in quality, searchability, without superfluous page breaks or line breaks, 'can't dance'
ozymandias_: If I can't dance, I don't want to be part of your revolution.
ascii_butugychag: but i have no interest in READING it with naked eye!!
ascii_butugychag: i'm all for latex-like animal in sexp representation
mircea_popescu: just like i'm not interested in binary blob "signed" text.