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assbot: Logged on 12-01-2016 06:18:05; ben_vulpes: my personal phone goal is an engineering team that is on call so that i don't have to have a phone
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2016 06:12:11; BingoBoingo: https://i.sli.mg/U6151s.jpg
mircea_popescu: "i know... we'll offshore everything to china and live off a '''service economy'''. then we won't bother getting off the couch. win-win!"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-01-2016#1367845 << i don't hate the unicode folk. i hate the notion that we'd include all this in the first place. once we decide "we need it", i'd actually prefer unicode to any adhoc herpderping. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-01-2016#1367833 << i can't discern which side you're taking. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i get it, there is a fashion in the derp army of going around and 'i'm a visual thinker!11111'. this changes nothing. there are napoleons in your local loony bin, does not change the historic fact of napoleon.
asciilifeform: i wouldn't buy an ascii-art edition of feynman.
mircea_popescu: he did, yes, but i won't count it because at his time (40s) he had no other options.
mircea_popescu: the difference between a thinking man and a hack is that a hack goes "hey, i can't explain this without a blackboard"
mircea_popescu: what did i say ?
asciilifeform: i woke up and read the docz, almost fell out of bed:
ben_vulpes: in case its not clear BingoBoingo i'm a fan of your work
danielpbarron: can I encrypt a message to your bitcoin private key?
Tomiii: BingoBoingo: o i c. so you can do it with ECC keys in GPG 2.1?
BingoBoingo: I still have no idea why their mascot is an elephant
BingoBoingo: I left out the L or did I do that and need to capitalize the whole thing?
BingoBoingo: <mats> i don't get it, why another instruction << Because Intel
ben_vulpes: my personal phone goal is an engineering team that is on call so that i don't have to have a phone ☟︎
pete_dushenski: for my part on the phone-comp sync experiments, i'm pleased to report that the razr syncs like a charm via 10.6 'isync' once contacts are moved from sim storage to phone storage. the catch being that your next phone would also have to sync using 'isync' or else you'll have to switch the contact back to sim storage before changing phones.
mats: i don't get it, why another instruction
ben_vulpes: but i don't have a comment section, won't.
BingoBoingo: https://i.sli.mg/U6151s.jpg ☟︎
ben_vulpes: if vcard import breaks i want to hear about it.
pete_dushenski: i'm probably not the only one who's curious about the software versions
assbot: Logged on 29-04-2015 13:25:03; mircea_popescu: "Put another way, grep sells out its worst case (lots of partial matches) to make the best case (few partial matches) go faster. How treacherous! As this realization dawns on me, the room seemed to grow dim and slip sideways. I look up at the Ultimate Unix Geek, spinning slowly in his padded chair, and I hear his cackle "old age and treachery...", and in his flickering CRT there is a face reflected,
pete_dushenski: though in all seriousness, if the dumb bitches pretending to be 'drop-in daycares' and 'nannies' don't start returning phone calls and text in a timely manner, IF AT ALL, i'm a seriously cut their useless lives short.
pete_dushenski: punkman: i'm a greenie like that, what can i say
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: at least i don't live under clitler (if still natoreich)
pete_dushenski: punkman: if only to balance the life i'm adding to the planet.
pete_dushenski: yes, i shoulda been born in riyyad
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 06:36:31; BingoBoingo: copypaste: I suspect the reason you dislike pete_dushenski aping trilema is he comes from boring Canada and his cool factor and empire potential are limited by that.
trinque: mircea_popescu │ "∀ x ∈ R ∃! y ∈ R ∋ x + y = 0" offers exactly no benefit over "for any real number there exists another real number so that the two add to 0". << ftr I am precisely the african that would benefit from the math textbook written in *only* this manner.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm off. laters!
phf: i will support cyrillic in my lisp,\ only because,\ it was used to write by lenin --mayakovsky
phf: i think if my lisp rendered same character but claimed that they are not char=, i would be very unhappy
mircea_popescu: but i think it's very instructive because i suspect we're uncovering a psychotron here.
mircea_popescu: phf i know.
mircea_popescu: there is no actual meaning to proposing Σ-which-i-interpreted-as-sum and Σ-which-i-interpreted-as-plotin are somehow different in the "eq" manner but similar in the "equal" manner.
asciilifeform: that i use every motherfuckin day?
mircea_popescu: i don't see why you think this answer is not retarded.
asciilifeform: i've always wanted a '/dev/banhammer'
mircea_popescu: what can i tell you.
asciilifeform: so i can grasp.
mircea_popescu: i think we're close to a math breakthrough here.
asciilifeform: i don't see how.
mircea_popescu: phf which is why i said, it's contrary to everything he was saying.
asciilifeform: e.g., i can turn it into an aleph
asciilifeform: (this is not a notation on any existing system, i invented it)
asciilifeform: what if i said that α ought to live as an s-expr equalling (low (greek 0)) ?
mircea_popescu: mno, i am merely in the habit of having a mendelev table on my fucking wall.
mircea_popescu: that way i can look at a piece of paper with them
asciilifeform: or do i not get an α ?
mircea_popescu: anyway. i have nothing against lisp, neither historically nor intellectually. but this is an unsatisfactory notion of an alphabet.
mircea_popescu: i have had enough seawater in the shape of bitcoin genesis
mircea_popescu: anyway. i have no intention to bake in historical idiocy, and especially not of this ilk.
asciilifeform: (the entire process took place at all, as i gather, because foolishly smbx thought it could finesse the process)
phf: the only redeeming quality in this case, that there aren't better standards available, except for maybe Ada (i've not looked). you end up with trade offs, or hard constraints that make the result non-portable. a positive aspect of cl standard is that you get reasonably similar behavior on very wide range of hardware, but i agree that things could always be better
mircea_popescu: phf and if idiots make functions going ___function where in the ordered list do i look for them ?
mircea_popescu: and no, i won't be looking for the beatles records past the why records.
mircea_popescu: i can also trivially define the new location of washington dc.
mircea_popescu: and i should not be surprised, lest the scribe gets her ass colored.
mircea_popescu: so if i sort a file containing a bunch of words, i do not know if i should look for ___stuff at the end or beginning or scattered anywhere.
phf: asciilifeform: i think numerics is a truly dodgy tradeoff. it took me until quite recently to grok that "character code == ascii" or "character code == unicode codepoint" are not the only two possible interpretations.
mircea_popescu: well now ima gonna have to search won't i ;/
asciilifeform: i get it, mircea_popescu wants boyer-moore
mircea_popescu: i wish to know wtf it does omg.
mircea_popescu: dude if you imagine it is acceptable for me to sit here looking at two strings AND NOT KNOW exactly what the machine will do if i tell it to search
asciilifeform: (who would? i've nfi)
mircea_popescu: and how do i search ?
phf: apropos i like how cl does it, there's a set of characters that are predefined to be standard and portable, and it's basically an mp set: alphabet, digits, top row, handful of controls like newline. each character has a numeric code and a verbose name #\a #\b #\space #\newline. there's a handful of predicates that let you query characters basic nature, upcasep/downcasep/whitespacep. that's it. an implementation though can choose to
trinque: :( but I am enjoying it!
trinque: asciilifeform │ and (λ (x y) (....)) ~is~ superior to (lambda... << with this I have no problem at all.
asciilifeform: i can write an exploitable calculator, what of it.
asciilifeform: i'm half-convinced that naggum painfully killed himself to pay for xml.
asciilifeform: i.e. you would embed the glyph, if it is a non-traditional one, and represented as an s-expr driving a vectorizer
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm not prepared for this matter to get a ruling.
mod6: I guess this does actually effect us a bit -- i mean, lets say we wanna do some math modeling or expound upon some properties of something fourier whatever, and send it to the ML... now you gotta have it in ascii otherwise you can't sign it.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> "a tensor" << haha, i missed this
mircea_popescu: i bet you they all grew up as kids among a herd of wolves worshipping the symbol, never once thinking to make them write it down in words.
mircea_popescu: i couldn't care less you use sigma or the integral. what matters is the foreword
mod6: i dunno? sig = [T(e1)T(e2)T(e3)]
mod6: i like the idea that we could have a regular char set, like 127 bit ascii, and do everything from this. and if you need Sigma, its SIG, or LAMBDA, its LMA or Absolute Value, ABS.
mircea_popescu: i eat it.
mircea_popescu: i don't see this emerging other than by piecemeal correction, honestly.
asciilifeform: i tried to write it, actually, and ran out of juice
mircea_popescu: half the fucking things i do here each day and every day is exactly that, force people to properly plaintext their shit.
asciilifeform: if i have to be shiva, mircea_popescu can be a racehorse!111
mircea_popescu: what do you think i am, a race horse ?
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu posts the plaintext rigorous green's theorem, i promise to read it..
mircea_popescu: i'm not a fucking cpu.
asciilifeform: just like you can brag about being a muscle man, but i can always fill a knapsack that you cannot move with, so you cannot say 'it does not matter what a knapsack weighs!111'
mircea_popescu: it's still in my fucking head. i read it. wtf.
mircea_popescu: do you think i presently notated the merchant of venice so 3555 liunes fit in one page ?
mircea_popescu: there's plenty of squigglies in physics too. i never much cared.
mircea_popescu: yes, actually. i generally said this si fucking stupid and you people suck.
mircea_popescu: i don't remember any of it. nobody does, people who wrote it included.
mircea_popescu: yeah i had a raft of that retarded shit too
mircea_popescu: what can i tell you.
asciilifeform: relatedly, i spend a great deal of time in uni maths library. to this day. and every so often i end up picking up a thing that was typeset on the cheap, in the dark ages, using typewriter
mircea_popescu: be the scotsman with a parasol, what do i care.