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billymg: well, because some of them actually seem very intelligent, and seem like they'd be pretty good at it, if they cared
billymg: because isn't that the point? try to figure out how the world works and get it to work for you
mp_en_viaje: why should they ?
billymg: and not just never get it, but never even want to
billymg: i see what you're saying, and it's not fear of rejection or anything like that, it's sadness. like when i realize that even my own family/close friends will never get it
billymg: ah yeah, i remember this one now, lots of good lulz in there
mp_en_viaje: i went in trying to figure out if i care or not.
mp_en_viaje: why the fuck would it be discouraging, it's not like i went in caring about the retards
mp_en_viaje: yeah, say hi to 1000 to find 100 to ask how their day;s been to find 10 to ask a 2ns question to to find one...
billymg: as in, gotta talk to 1000 to find the one human?
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-10#1944732 << it's why the ~many~ is in there.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-10 20:33:35 BingoBoingo: going over local contract law again. Tristan Narvaja produced some gems. Art. 1273. La violencia moral no afectará la validez del contrato, sino cuando por la condición de la persona, su carácter, hábitos y sexo, pueda juzgarse que ha debido naturalmente hacerle una fuerte impresión. Tampoco afectará la validez de los contratos el mero temor reverencial.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-10#1944716 << o ya, the attempt of the roman law folk to make sense out of the world, their structure of terms of art etc, lulzy goldmine
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-10 20:43:42 lobbes: But this is faulty reasoning; e.g. mp_en_viaje sure as fuck didn't like Argentina yet knew that place inside and out (which is how he even came to the conclusion that it sucked so hard in the first place)
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-10#1944721 << this is so.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-10 20:43:35 lobbes: I fell into ill thinking in which I reasoned that since I don't want to live here ~forever~ and that I don't really like the place that I am content with being a hermit for the time being.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-10#1944720 << the correct reasoning is to observe that since you don't intend to stay, therefore mistakes are cheap.
lobbes: billymg: oya, I encounter that as well, which is what leads to my hermit behavior I find ("meh, I don't even enjoy hanging with that guy; would rather just be alone"). But part of networking I suppose is just dealing with it and making the effort. Not like BingoBoingo had to be best buds with his bicycle guy contact, either
billymg: BingoBoingo: ty, and no rush
billymg: anything i _want_ to talk about, they absolutely _do not_ want to talk about
billymg: lobbes: i don't know if this is any defense but i find when try to talk to people here i'm met with http://63.80.184.72/blog/influence.html
lobbes: in other news, my second server is finally provisioned. I'm off to resurrect auctionbot and blog!
lobbes: billymg, right? Ditto, though I ought to start talking to more people regardless of where I am. Sure it is 'easier' to just not talk to people, but the easy things are easy for a reason
BingoBoingo: billymg: Aite. I'll try to have these tarballed GPG'd and uploaded within the next 24 hours. Will let you know if I have any issues.
billymg: i've been so lost in corporate world these past few years it's all i know, and vow not to make the same mistake once i jump the fence
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-08 00:14:45 mp_en_viaje: "not talking to many people you don't know ~= suicide" might've been more productive a lesson.
billymg: lobbes: yeah, this resonated with me http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1941999
billymg: BingoBoingo: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=XjKL < and the key
lobbes: But this is faulty reasoning; e.g. mp_en_viaje sure as fuck didn't like Argentina yet knew that place inside and out (which is how he even came to the conclusion that it sucked so hard in the first place)
lobbes: I fell into ill thinking in which I reasoned that since I don't want to live here ~forever~ and that I don't really like the place that I am content with being a hermit for the time being.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-10 07:48:20 mp_en_viaje: ownership of a place is a thing.
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-10#1944415 << I see what you mean, and this makes sense. In that case, I must confess I have not spent my time here in carolinastan taking ownership of the place. Certainly have not made and BTC/fiat interface contacts, which I do see now as foolish.
lobbes: pretty lulzy re: keycard BingoBoingo. Good thing you grabbed irons indeed
BingoBoingo going over local contract law again. Tristan Narvaja produced some gems. Art. 1273. La violencia moral no afectará la validez del contrato, sino cuando por la condición de la persona, su carácter, hábitos y sexo, pueda juzgarse que ha debido naturalmente hacerle una fuerte impresión. Tampoco afectará la validez de los contratos el mero temor reverencial.
billymg: it would still be nice to get a copy of some of the directories on my old rk if i'm not too late
billymg: BingoBoingo: i took a snapshot of my blog db when piz briefly came back after the unexpected outage, and i have local copies of my patches (i see diana_coman mirrored the mp-wp patches, but i also have the mp-wp-tests patches)
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/the-famous-schlob-and-other-stories/ << Trilema -- The Famous Schlob, and other stories.
BingoBoingo: "Yes, despite paying for powered rack... Running machines that may become surprise uncooled when they don't even network access is a great risk/reward calculation.
BingoBoingo: Also not a necessary leaving tell when people other than HVAC folk were seen trying to fix HVAC crisis. It's a natural equipment preservation move.
BingoBoingo: Anyways. Having everything but the one switch powered down when the network doesn't work seems like the only sane response to walking into the Monday Air conditioner disaster.
BingoBoingo: not at this frequency
BingoBoingo: Empty humans box during business hours has been the exception in the past. Consistently seeing it when never seeing it before...
BingoBoingo: But the lack of anyone in the humans box seems to be a strong "less than skeleton/prize crew at the helm" situation
BingoBoingo: And yet I was in the rack last night many hours after the wheeling out.
BingoBoingo: But during the conversation never said anything definitive as to my future operations rather than my clients'operations, but did emphasize the difficulty of continuing as is. This may have baited the keycard.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: I would have thought first batch of wheeling would have, but apparently neither receptionist cared that day nor does anyone appear to mid the security cameras at the enterance.
BingoBoingo: But never worked for the honest wheels door
mp_en_viaje: and you figure that gave it away ?
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Yesterday I had to use the service enterance because wheels.
mp_en_viaje: wait, walked you out ? i thought the keycard thingee just quit
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Not outside the realm of possibility, but yes. Would be surprising. Then again there was no one in the glass humans box yesterday at an hour 1. Well after local lunch hour and a half concludes 2. Well before local workday concludes. Fellow who walked me out had to come from one of the two other datacenters (the other two are under different S.A. corp for Freezone purposes, maybe more solvent?)
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-10 08:29:13 mp_en_viaje: i can't even be arsed to distinguish whether it's the case that some weirdo is in fact SO weird as to actually have an xray machine, microscopes etcetera but 0 boxes, or rather the case some fifteen yo is just talking along with the crowd, a sort of [][zelig], becoming overweight when talking to overweight people about their obexsity and growing a beard when hanging out with rabbis.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-10 10:26:06 asciilifeform: !Qlater tell mp_en_viaje if you think asciilifeform is liar, then per the mp's operating instruction you have wrong sign bit on asciilifeform's rating. i'ma take that -9 nao.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-10#1944537 << i don't think you're a liar. i think you're a https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QO6WLGB4RBU/maxresdefault.jpg ; and as your misfortune would have it very few interesting or important things in this world can be done single handedly.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, despite the signs of unwellness, it would still be surprising if I don't have access because they don't have access either.
BingoBoingo: "Colocates servers, why wouldn't he hire a 'fletes' to do the manual labor?"
BingoBoingo: Anyways, I'm pretty sure even though I wheeled out servers with a hand truck earlier, doing so yesterday while someone was paying attention... was probably a shock. Especially in light of the pseudo-classism thing that goes in in this part of the world.
BingoBoingo: The sutures holding my scrotum to this horse feel substantially less tight than they did even this morning.
BingoBoingo: Also visited the commercial shippers today. Going to have to get my own boxes and will probably be headed to the networking hardware store tomorrow to see what they got.
BingoBoingo: Aite. Will play dumb and let them accumulate breaches.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, after taking care of some other things Imma draft a "Let's get this liability of a contract off both of our books and cleanly and inexpensively as possible" letter. Will not fire off without getting some reads here of the draft.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, they've captured 1. weird switch any prospective or current customers are going to "brand fag" about being offered 2. Commodity switch already plentiful on local market 3. some single board computers 4. rails, cables, and other shit it would have been nice for them to have Jan/Feb 2018!!!
BingoBoingo: Seriously. Glad I didn't warn then before wheeling out the last 1Us. Still between then and this afternoon's visit to SWEEP AND CLEAN while packing... I was still able to get in last night. WTF sort of delay is that.
mp_en_viaje: ahahaah they actually stoled it ? good thing you got the shit out
BingoBoingo: ATTN ALL: Latecho has silently disabled my access to the datacenter. All that remains in the rack per my last survey are 1. Switch for the incoming connection 2. less sophisticated switch serving RK plant 3. RK plant (minus drives) 4. Rails 5. A small mountain of network and power cables 6. Many Racknuts, mostly unsused 7. One platic tote box, empty
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-10 07:03:11 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-10#1944385 << were worn, in all fairness, but certainly see the flavour.
BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-10#1944498 << Servers worn yes. Was counting on "in Uruguay" to convey the sadness.
mp_en_viaje: hanbot_abroad nicoleci https://archive.org/details/RoBalaicaGRimm/page/n5 << the sisters marrying bear story.
mp_en_viaje: just say !!up to deedbot in pm and then !!v the otp it gives you
crowncloud_: aha ty :)
crowncloud_: let me see, I'll have a chat with my boss and see how it goes, I'll drop a reply to the email ? or ?
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: and yes, irc isp suite would have been great; I'm quite sure it would have made my search way more fruitful too really.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: now you released the trackbacks and feedbot is foaming with them, lolz
diana_coman: crowncloud_: as mp_en_viaje says, in time you could bridge this over with custom software too but for the moment just a person to do the bridging (or 2-3 on shifts, whatever); you know what'd work
mp_en_viaje: the pizarro irc isp suite'd have been quite useful right now, "here, use this"
mp_en_viaje: not like pizarro wrote itself one, for all the aferations of intensive care etc.
crowncloud_: na nothing against IRC really, its just that the panel handles it all for us, bills are auto-generated on the due date, support alerts go to all members so everyone on-shift is alerted of whatever issue etc so they can all provide you updates as we get them from the datacenter side
diana_coman: crowncloud_: basically establish a presence on irc too, they'll probably even train up while at it, if anything.
diana_coman: crowncloud_: and I get what you say re mixed, not like I didn't talk to...ahem, quite a lot of isp employees those days.
diana_coman: crowncloud_: that was my email, lol; it won't really work for everyone anyway; and really, what's against irc? it's ok, we don't bite the unexperienced.
BingoBoingo: And by "much of their staff" I mean my point man with a good head.
crowncloud_: the same ID to/from which you sent us an email earlier today ?
BingoBoingo: crowncloud_: I understand that. Last datacenter had much of their staff disappear sometime after 8 September this year.
crowncloud_: Yup -- just trying to see how to make it best possible, because I don't want to leave anyone hanging for support and at the same time, for billing as well. I don't usually want staff to interact with customers as it leads to a very "mixed" of experience
BingoBoingo: crowncloud_: In my experience serving these clients they practicly support themselves most of the time. Very tech literate. The few things they ask however, they need.
diana_coman: that is not going to work at all.
mp_en_viaje: it's not really gonna work to try and get the republic on website.
diana_coman: so they can escalate it internally in any way; the point is: one contact here and then that contact can escalate and do whatever in your system
crowncloud_: hmm issue is, not all staff have access to the datacenter stuff (for security reasons) so there's a internal escilation for such tasks via support tickets
diana_coman: crowncloud_: they can come online too, no? have them reg a key each and leave a znc on, what
crowncloud_: let me see -- i mean, for support etc as well, it would be very useful if via the client area, because we have different staff on rotating shifts, so someone or the other would be available to help you out rather than waiting for me to come online :P
crowncloud_: just checking into invoicing via deedbot -- we usually handle support/invoicing etc all via our client area (helps keep track of invoices/updates the customer on any network maintanence etc)
diana_coman: or that, lol.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-10 14:34:11 mp_en_viaje: UY1: » 128 GB ECC RAM » 2x 16-core AMD Opteron 6376 (2.3 GHz) (32 Cores) » Reserved Space, Just for you on a 1.7 TB RAID 10 Array composed of Samsung Solid State Drives » Apache, MySQL, PHP 5.6 » Located in safe and politically stable Montevideo, Uruguay outside of NATO or other belligerent states
diana_coman: crowncloud_: the chan is logged at http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema if you missed anything
diana_coman: this is how ossasepia is moving to the US, pfft.
diana_coman: speaking of which: crowncloud_ I'll take that intel in atlanta whatevers, I need my blog up; put centos 6 on it and invoice me via deedbot.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: well, in the end the london guy wasted my morning; after which I have 2 people actually showing up; what can I say.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-10 09:41:58 diana_coman: and after all the time-wasting, london-guy fails; at least it's consistent with expectations.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: no; the london guy failed as per http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-10#1944531