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douchebag: "i don't know how you
think you know better what
to do with your
time
than mp"
☟︎ douchebag: How am I projecting? You're
the ones who are acting like you're somehow better because you have different interests.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: oh baby don't
take it personally, sit with
the discomfort for an hour and figure out
the root of it.
ben_vulpes: douchebag: do you understand why it's uninteresting
to
this particular group of
terrorists?
mircea_popescu: douchebag
this is not unlike becoming a dermatologist because most people have skin.
mircea_popescu: right. i expect it's
the first
time anyone even said within earshot
this whole pantsuit badge collecting isn't even socially accepted, let alone required.
douchebag: ben_vulpes: It's interesting
to me, and considering pretty much any large company or organization has a web application in
their infrastructure I feel like it's a pretty good area
to focus on in
terms of security research.
ben_vulpes: sure does not look like he's putting any
time into figuring out why nobody cares about his boy scout badges.
mircea_popescu: it's interesting
to me, honestly. i expect from his pow we appear as half insane half irresponsible, and
the question of where's
the hole
the day comes in
through quite poignant.
shinohai: Here I
thougt one got a certificate in monology
ben_vulpes: douchebag: i dunno man, i'm going
to weary of picking
things for you in short order but maybe
try
to sidechannel
the mpi lib?
a111: Logged on 2018-03-08 21:29 mircea_popescu: meditation upon
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-08#1787343 yields
the interesting result
that problem spaces are not continuous. problem spaces are discrete, and
there exists such a
thing as problem spans.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes in fairness he
tried
to show, and inexplicably it didn't work.
ben_vulpes: douchebag: you realize you're "telling and not showing" and
that nobody cares about your fiatland sekyooridee credentialing?
douchebag: I also work for a security firm at
the moment.
douchebag: Well, I've been paid
thousands of dollars in bug bounties. All of which I have found manually.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: should however same kid in same situation describe anal beads with nubbins on
them and other arcana 13yo kids notably (and notedly,
throughout history of civilisation) can NOT on
their own come up with, psychologist similarily has a solid child abuse referral case.
mircea_popescu: douchebag if 13 yo kid comes
to psychologist's office because insomnia, and after some hymenlick maneouvering on
the part of
the professional comes out with
the story
that has "terrifying and disturbing dreams",
thereuponwhich recounts numerous instances of dreamed
tits, nipples and areola but 0 clits, labia or vaginal openings,
the psychologist can safely
thereby infer 13yo kid is a virgin.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: douchebag: well it's what it looks like from here,
take
the ad hominem and show me it's wrong yeah?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: working with asciilifeform
to vpsify
the idle box now
douchebag: Where did you get
this notion
that I am a 'metasploit crank-puller'
mircea_popescu: now on
to
the issue of
the vps. is pizarro coming up with something in short enough order it's worth having
the whole genesis mp-wp wait on it, or rather should more business go away and hanbot pick herself yet another rando vps host ?
ben_vulpes: your own research
targets in which case you're a man and can make your own decisions or you need orders and will be
told what
to do. picking your own
targets is an act of *creativity*, which i muchly doubt i'll see much of from a metasploit crank-puller. as it stands i don't really expect you
to do anything but it's a low bar and a single
task
to show me wrong.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-22 11:17 douchebag: If I do
this and I am successful, am I going
to be expected
to work on programming projects or could I find something
that I would be able
to help with in regards
to information security
ben_vulpes:
http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-22#317063 << you showed up, said 'help, what do i do', and i said 'go, son, and
this
thing.' it's a severalfold
test: can you wrap your head around
the concepts in v? can you
take orders when you ask for
them? it's a layered pile of crash course in not flunking out of
the republic. in re 'what am i expected
to do', look either you eventually grow up and start picking
mircea_popescu: not even sure how original
the whole "nopenopenope"
thing is.
mircea_popescu: the unsustainable, unacceptable etc systematically misrepresented
to
them as socially acceptable,
the necessary, correct etc equally systematically misrepresented as socially unacceptable... it's
true
that
this is grade A child abuse, but
then again it's also
true
the children so abused carry on
the sad smoldering stumps of what's left of
their lives
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-03-22 06:11 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ftr, it's euphEmisms and venezuEla. are your voewls shifting from all
the
tuna you're eating or what!
mircea_popescu: i do however believe
the foregoing statement,
that high quality, sterling stupidity is always manufactured, never inborn. most people are poorly socialized from birth.
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mod6: I've said
this
to others, I'm sure,
that before even contemplating writing a V, you should be well versed in it ~use~.
mod6: I would say, douchebag,
that if you don't know how
to, at minimum, ~use~ V, you'll find it very difficult
to participate.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-22 10:34 douchebag: It would not be unpleasant if it had not already been done before multiple
times, what's
the point of reinventing
the wheel?
douchebag: Perhaps I would be able
to help w/ Pizzaro ISP?
douchebag: Most of
the work I currently do is focused around protecting customers
douchebag: Well, I've stated previously
that I intend on learning more about some of
the more low level attack vectors
diana_coman: I can't help but read
that as "I'm not
too sure if my focus on finding rats in
take-aways would even be relevant
to your actual cooking"
douchebag: For instance, what you mentioned in regards
to XSS. XSS is
the sort of
thing
that would have little
to no impact on a site like
trilema.com
douchebag: Yes, and
that's one of
the reasons why I'm not
too sure if
the areas I focus would even be relevant
to
the projects you guys work on
douchebag: Alright, yes
that is some very interesting research. However,
that's not exactly
the same area of InfoSec
that I have been studying.
douchebag: I've read
the logs partially, however I haven't finished
them
mircea_popescu: do you read
the logs douchebag ? or just stumble in
this window now and again and
that's it ?
mircea_popescu: you really
think you're going
to eat out of blabla.php?=<alert whatever ?
douchebag: However, if you guys would be interested in doing
that sort of
thing I would be more
than happy
to help.
douchebag: That was a plan of mine
to do later down
the road
douchebag: So, would
those skills be of use here?
douchebag: I primarily focus on web application and network based penetration
testing
douchebag: I can identify security flaws & help with properly remediating
the issue
douchebag: If I do
this and I am successful, am I going
to be expected
to work on programming projects or could I find something
that I would be able
to help with in regards
to information security
diana_coman: douchebag, it's fine, you just need
to expand now from
that
douchebag: It just appears
to be way of updating code, pgp signing
the updates
diana_coman: there are plenty of vpatches around - have a look at
them for "what a vpatch is"
douchebag: I literally do not understand anything. I don't know what a vpatch is or anything.
The concept just does not make sense
diana_coman: douchebag, write somewhere a summary of what you understand of it and what you don't - it will help you formulate some clear questions
to...ask in here, so people can help you understand
diana_coman: douchebag,
that already sounds healthier at any rate
douchebag: Okay,
to clarify what I meant by saying "most people" is
that people write code
to publicly release and be used by others ect..
diana_coman: douchebag, your problem still seems
to have as root
the approach "towards purpose" instead of from causes;
try and digest
that post
diana_coman: douchebag, why do you concern yourself with what other people do or not do *after* something you didn't even yet do; it's a recipe for insanity
this
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure
that's how it goes for most everyone here.
douchebag: I write code for
the simple purpose of making my life easier. 95% of
the code I write will never be ran by anyone else except myself
diana_coman: what are
the "same reasons most people do" and ..how did you figure out "most people" in
there and why
they do what
they do?
douchebag: diana_coman: I agree with you.
The reason I'm a bit hesitant is because I know what I'm not good at. I know how
to code, I write code almost every single day. However, I don't code for
the same reasons most people do
diana_coman: douchebag, learning something is never a waste of
time; and learning what you "are not good at" is quite doubly NOT a waste of
time; "outcome" as you currently define it doesn't enter into it at all; and for
that matter:
http://trilema.com/2015/causes-and-purposes/ a111: Logged on 2018-03-22 10:46 mircea_popescu: because you're sitting
there waiting for reality
to change so it may be admitted in yoru movie.
that's not how reality works,
though
there's a bunch of people still waiting for bitcoin
to be what
they
thought of it, back in 2015 or 2013 or 2011 or w/e
the fuck
they first heard of it, formed a fantasy and adhered
to it.
mircea_popescu: i don't
think you can be anything but disappointed, in your current state.
douchebag: or do you
think I would just be disappointed
douchebag: So, do you
think I should even bother?
douchebag: Like I said, I would like
to help. I know how
to code but I would be much better at helping w/ security related
topics. I would not want
to write a V just
to find out
that
the only way for me
to help would be for me
to code stuff
mircea_popescu: i'm saying
that your notion of helping is so constructed so as
to preclude helping, yes.
douchebag: Well I don't understand how I'm sitting here waiting for reality
to change? Are you saying
there's absolutely nothing
that I could help with here in regards
to Information Security?
mircea_popescu: because you're sitting
there waiting for reality
to change so it may be admitted in yoru movie.
that's not how reality works,
though
there's a bunch of people still waiting for bitcoin
to be what
they
thought of it, back in 2015 or 2013 or 2011 or w/e
the fuck
they first heard of it, formed a fantasy and adhered
to it.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: what you're actually saying is "i opt
to waste my youth". which is fine, it's yours
to waste.