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ben_vulpes: it's been some
time since i gave a shit but
the 'docker' folks were very proud of
the resource sharing
that linus wrote for
them
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: does
the 'cgroups' 'containerization' sharedhosting approach waste
the same amount?
mircea_popescu: it's
the pantsuit gift of "progress",
tends
to soak up about 60% of
the living life
to do nothing at all. much like
their
tax system.
mircea_popescu: which 60% can also be used
to... you know, buffer
the occasional mass mysql rewrite or w/e user needs
mircea_popescu: yes, i expect 60% of
the box goes
to
that wastage by now.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-22 17:18 ben_vulpes: can we leverage chroot for
this?
mircea_popescu: well if you're not using it
to publish web shits, get a proper box.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how will anyone eat all
the ram, apache runs as nobody anyway.
ben_vulpes: heh,
this'll
turn into our bitbet moderation cost center without care
mircea_popescu: not even sure what it'd
take, but we could have a competition, "shorters bash line
that hoses box"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i've not yet managed
to properly speaking hose a modern box (hosed as in, root can't log in
to fix it)
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes depends what host. a blog ? i dunno man, what sikrits can
they glean!!!!
mircea_popescu: if
there's actual demand for some reason, can always stand up a box with all
that crap later. or entreprising fellow can just resell one.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu:
tru
tru; what objections would you field
to sharing a host with l2?
jhvh1: ben_vulpes:
The operation succeeded.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-22 17:08 asciilifeform: i for instance do not see why , if it's wot l1 people living in it, it has
to expend
the cpu overhead
to pretend-isolate and vm-ize. why not simply
traditional unix accounts.
mircea_popescu: yues, fucking obviously, kuhn's notion of "paradigm" in research is precisely
that, what beds
to not look under.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: doing
things correctly also implies knowing what hairballs of stupid
to cut off and not consider.
mircea_popescu: indeed,
this may be
the first shared prior unearthed yet. but it's solid.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: yeah i care quite deeply about folks clicking links with b58 encoded piles of
trash in
the url
douchebag: Good, I'm glad someone is on
the same page as me.
ben_vulpes: why bother fucking if your dick's going
to pop out?
douchebag: Wouldn't it make sense
to make sure you're doing something
the right way before you go ahead and do it?
☟︎ douchebag: ben_vulpes: Why do you write web applications if you're going
to allow vulnerabilities in your code?
ben_vulpes: man i can't even find
the juice
to beat
this kind of
thinking into
the heads of people at $work;
they gotta come preconfigured for utility
ben_vulpes: not
to insult your
trade, but
to
try and hammer home
the paradigms you're missing
ben_vulpes: douchebag: until you wrap your head around what goes on here, you're going
to be fighting
this negative impression where you insist
that you're smart and educated etc, just...not in any
topics
that anyone here cares about eg
trb as a basis for murdering
the megastate and all barnacles like ecommerce/ssl/securitycircus hanging off
the side
ben_vulpes: i
thought
this was
too obvious
to point out, did not want
to further insult douchebag's intelligence
shinohai: Because
the Republic isn't in
the business of
tard wrangling?
douchebag: I just don't see what was so damn difficult about
that? If you guys
told me
to look for RCE in
trb
this conversation could have ended hours ago
a111: Logged on 2018-03-22 16:41 douchebag: "i don't know how you
think you know better what
to do with your
time
than mp"
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-22#1788650 <<
this is also interesting. note however it's misstated. whether you know better or not what
to do with your
time is not generally
touched ; but you sure as fuck don't know better what NOT
to do with your
time, which is
time and again
the crux of
the matter.
☝︎ mod6: then
tell us for christsakes
douchebag: Okay, suppose I can get remote code execution w/
trb
ben_vulpes: douchebag: if you cannot read
through
thebitcoin.foundation website and get
to
trb i do not know what future
there is for you
mod6: I have personally, at least, posted 'thebitcoin.foundation' in here 196
times.
ben_vulpes: also i don't give one watt of credence
to
this 'no
time'
thing; i've read logs daily for what, four years? started and sold out of a company, had more
than one 'job' at points, manage a family and still keep up and contribute
a111: Logged on 2018-03-22 16:37 douchebag: How am I projecting? You're
the ones who are acting like you're somehow better because you have different interests.
shinohai: >Can't be annoyed
to read logs, yet "can sit in front of computer 36 hours straight researching a specific
topic"
mod6: i gotta look
this up now
ben_vulpes: no fucking way anyone's going
to
try
to enumerate
the holes in your education
ben_vulpes: douchebag: you did just get a link
to
trb
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes "here is everything". he was promised his context is universal by
teh universalist party.
douchebag: ben_vulpes: How am I supposed
to
take anything in here seriously if nobody can
tell me anything besides
ben_vulpes: douchebag: see dude
this is why i can't
take you seriously, you have zero context for what's going on here and yet you insist on strutting around as
though you matter
douchebag: mod6: not in full, I don't have a
ton of
time on my hands
to read 6 months of logs
mod6: you can't say
that you read
the logs, and also do not know where
trb is or what it is.
mod6: you have never read
the logs 'eh
a111: Logged on 2018-03-22 16:41 douchebag: "mp is better
than you; stop pretending like he isn't"
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-22#1788651 << amusingly enough, i'm probably a better "website security" dood
than you, if
that's what you mean, or at least so
the folk in
the know believe, on
the strenght of
the various website fuckings / wp ddos writeups etc i've piled up over
the years. but
this is a little like disputing
the sackrunning competition.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: douchebag no, actually : we are explicit about
the [little] we feel good about ourselves.
the "alternative" such as it misrepresents itself, is very successfully implicit about how [grandiosely] it feels good about itself. but somehow you don't go up
to some clueless dork pretending
to run a "security business" and be "your boss" and ask him whence he feels
that insanely overstretchedkly good about himself. for SOME reason.
mod6: douchebag: did you ever build
trb?
douchebag: but instead you jerkoffs just
told me
to write a v implementation
douchebag: No, I figured
that maybe I could help more
ben_vulpes: this "all hobbies are equally valid"
thing ain't gonna carry water fwiw
douchebag: No, I came here so
that I could help.
douchebag: Oh yeah, and I'm
the one projecting.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-22 16:26 douchebag: Well, I've been paid
thousands of dollars in bug bounties. All of which I have found manually.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 06:53 douchebag: I also have an extremely good memory compared
to most people, I can remember very specific details about events and conversations
that happened years prior
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 06:43 douchebag: I can sit in front of my computer for 36 hours straight researching a specific
topic
douchebag: "mp is better
than you; stop pretending like he isn't"
☟︎