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nubbins`: the normals who know about 420 don't pick up on it
thestringpuller: yea that wasn't actually him
thestringpuller: I can't believe she actually logged into irc.
gecko_x2: we don't want no stinking btc shares
gecko_x2: or don't bother with bitfunder
ThickAsThieves: if kako signs an NDA for me, it doesn't mean that I'm now in business with BitBet
dexX7: no i didn't
nubbins`: "Do you see anything wrong with the picture? Sure, you don't want to go to jail. I have news for you, Gerald: you're already in jail. This is what jail is, this is what jail means, this is what it feels like. You're already there. Whether you move from the large jail cell hosting everyone else you know to one of the smaller cells isn't even up to you, because, again, this is what jail is. When your
VanCleef: I don't want Tat to go to jail :(
nubbins`: Anyway, all this gov't posturing does nothing but encourage people to prepare
Namworld: Well I can't wait for robots with true AI
Namworld: They can't make it in time to hit big (IF they are even legit to start with)
Namworld: and I don't quite believe it, no
Namworld: It doesn't have half the appeal ASICMINER had. And ASICMINER was one heck of a lucky shot for everyone who had some of that.
Namworld: I didn't have coins there. Well so I thought. But apparently I had indirect exposure left and right.
bobbabad: hey guys, don't cry over spilled milk... you still got a chance to be a bitcoin millionare... all-in for labcoin is all I got to say
dub: if you hadn't sold 700 shares under 1?
dub: i havn't looked in detail but I'd be surprised if any AM hardware in the wild will actually make money
bgupta: Dub: ASICMINER could disappear tomorrow, but if they were a scam, why would they keep it going this long? They have paid out a lot of divs compared to what they have collected, if they were gonna bail it would have been way more profitable to do so months ago. To me AM seems the one mining asset where the interests of management are aligned with those of shareholders. (That doesn't mean they are a good investm
Namworld: ASICMINER could probably roll out a next gen ASIC miner in the time it would take for the others out there to realize they won't have their stuff ready until 2 years later. That is, if they weren't scams.
dub: can't email something out of there
thestringpuller: if you don't have a cc
gecko_x2: don't be silly
jurov: don't shot the balloons
hhrlot: why wouldn't there be a change?
thestringpuller: 6 btc profit ain't bad
mircea_popescu: dub "main problem is that while they're both naive, usagi isn't this organized."
kleeck: Didn't someone just light smidge up on /r/bitcoinstocks?
mircea_popescu: tyhese two don't likely mix.
dub: I don't
dexX7: didn't you know?
pankkake: the people who bought at 17-18 certainly aren't garden
pankkake: but btc garden shareholders aren't smart
pankkake: well it's likely they don't do the buyback on time
ThickAsThieves: I havent been around as long as you, but so far what ive learned is that you sorta ran DMC, and are in the process of sorta closing it. what i don't get is what you do now, and how you plan to pull off something new and larger.
pankkake: if you don't do it, you have higher fees, lower widthdraw limits
mircea_popescu: they arguably don't have a chance, as the people they're supposedly educating don't have a clue.
mircea_popescu: of course open markets don't work unless there's open minded people, and mpoe-prs.
mircea_popescu: arguably that country wouldn't be bankrupt and a laughingstock, either.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't have to randomly slap grown children across the internet all day
mircea_popescu: mostly i don't tho.
mircea_popescu: pankkake i don't insult people. i just slap children occasionally, when they get out of line
mircea_popescu: you don't have the qualifications to do so. yes it's open theatre so idiots like you may educate themselves, but that does not mean what you think it means.
mircea_popescu: ya well, you wouldn't expect him to get fired over that.
jurov: kakobrekla: can't open
mircea_popescu: kleeck you don't get to opine on what i publish.
kleeck: I'm reading your article. Should be interesting. Hopefully it isn't more drivel.
mircea_popescu: dexX7 guess why that wasn't the case.
dexX7: the obvious scam would be "collect up to 32k btc and run", but that wasn't the case
kleeck: The burden of proof lies with you, mircea_popescu. To say it is so "obvious" isn't proving anything. What evidence do you have?
mircea_popescu: obviously the scam failed, and for obvious reasons, unless you don't want to see them.
dexX7: this theory doesn't sound like much profit anyway
dexX7: kk i got it, i think. they didn't sold enough while ipo'ing (thus they bought it themselfs) and then they put up the remaining shares, but still not much demand, so they shut it down
mircea_popescu: if it doesn't take off, well, at least there's all the wash trading to claim like btct is almost like mpex.
pankkake: the ipo sold to itself *and* the price didn't go up
mircea_popescu: the scammer has no need of the "ipo" as it diodn't produce anything
mircea_popescu: btct doesn't want this dirty secret exposed, especially after being on trilema.
louong: "Maybe they determined the funding wasn't needed."
dub: if they had any intent to actually produce asics some casual extortion, standard business practice in china, wouldn't worry them
assbot: Hell, ain't we about more fucked than a whore at closin' time, huh?
thestringpuller: and doesn't everyone know the textile story of Buffet, he buys a dying company out of spite, turns it into a different business /w insurance, etc. etc.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller let's see. he claiming that the taxes are too low as proven by what he pays in tax. except he doesn't pay himself a salary.
thestringpuller: ^^ I thought you didn't like using buffet as an example
Omen1855: I'm not investing anymore, I can't compete anymore
mircea_popescu: which i guess isn't that far off...
pankkake: fuck, we can't have any private conversation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=271711.msg2913713#msg2913713
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well he didn't say "fabulate it"
mircea_popescu: the reason you don't stand a chance it's specifically because you misrepresent what "things" are.
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coinflow: TypeError: can't multiply sequence by non-int of type 'float' (file "/app/Coinflow/exchanges/models.py", line 57, in send_to_redis)
coinflow: TypeError: can't multiply sequence by non-int of type 'float' (file "/app/Coinflow/exchanges/models.py", line 57, in send_to_redis)
coinflow: TypeError: can't multiply sequence by non-int of type 'float' (file "/app/Coinflow/exchanges/models.py", line 57, in send_to_redis)
MrWonderful: don't cry about money, it doesn't cry for you.
mircea_popescu: i don't think mining is necessarily related to reason.
pankkake: not a very good idea, especially if they don't do timely updates
assbot: Aren't those tins of tobacco right there behind you?
assbot: !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
Hiro2: the only problem is that you can't find what hotel it is until you book it
firsthousefinanc: well my friend tried to apply to borrow and even after identifying his stuff he can't create a listing lol
firsthousefinanc: i haven't heard of any defaults on the otc forum since june, btcjam has really improved their shit
firsthousefinanc: hope they didn't scam me on the btcjam loan
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what leads you to think that they won't be immediately replaced by very similarly-equipped people who can afford gas?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this theory is completely false. you can't pay the good ones you lose with even legions of the shitty ones you get.
mircea_popescu: consequently, if the government doesn't like the deal the people are offering it it may stfu and not take it.
mircea_popescu: this is logically unsound. i don't need to do more than say that.
ThickAsThieves: you explain that it is so, and give examples of why it shouldn't be allowed, but you don't actually say why
Rulother__: and he wasn't lol
gecko_x2: i don't think so
jurov: kakobrekla: i'm just trying to get deeper into this mindset, cuz i don't understand
gecko_x2: oh, no i don't think so
gecko_x2: wasn't all this already stated in the prospectus?
gecko_x2: he doesn't feel like sitting by a computer for hours every week sorting out all the numbers and doing payments
gecko_x2: i don't get the problem
mircea_popescu: they didn't make it to 53.
mircea_popescu: You have been so rude as to summon my wife to the telephone and use bad language. Although she had told you that she was prepared to forget this, the fact nevertheless became known through her to Zinoviev and Kamenev. I have no intention of forgetting so easily what has been done against me, and it goes without saying that what has been done against my wife I consider having been done against me as well. I ask you, t
mircea_popescu: you don't get in a bureaucracy by having brains.
asciilifeform: if the fellow making 'the offer that can't be refused' had any brains, he'd write the script for Gavin, rather than letting him mouth off ad lib.
mircea_popescu: it's quite humiliating, a point i'm sure isn't lost on anyone but "the community".
Kleeck_: Sure, you can conspiracy theory a lot of scary scenarios, but as we understand TOR it is a very well thought out network. It's the methods of connectivity that are vulnerable, and a few other points of injection/observation, that don't involve the TOR network at all.
asciilifeform: TOR is fairly secure against people who aren't its pwners.