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PeterL: there is a high investment required for competition, needs a seat on MPEx, not sure if the small number of potential users would justify that

asciilifeform is not a user of jurov's service, but always found it interesting that it has no (afaik) competition. must be quite good.

jurov: no, if I decide to, it will not be shut down at a moment's notice, the situation is NOT so dire

danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403585 << ok, my main concern is that I have quite a bit of shares that I had not intention of selling any time soon, and I'd imagine if you shut down you'd just liquidate it all at whatever the current bids are ☝︎

punkman: PeterL: signing is not easily done with a touchscreen phone << it's not really the interface, more that phones suck

PeterL: I was thinking of typing gpg commands like in a terminal, I guess it can be as easy as clicking a button if you set things up

asciilifeform: interestingly, these were an 'ultimate' weapon, in the sense that nobody, afaik, found a pill against them (at least during ww2)

assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 13:39:30; BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> instrument of trolling >> a trawl? << A Trawler, like the boat. It puts out lines that catch lulz.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403533 << maybe just me, but i normally think of a ww2 mine trawl, the kind towed by a tank ☝︎

PeterL: signing is not easily done with a touchscreen phone

asciilifeform: (gotta get used to ~having~ a signable name...)

assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 14:46:24; mircea_popescu: i wonder what's so hard about wot. people get in routinely, one a day by now or somesuch

mircea_popescu: yet for a class (or perhaps a reunion of classes, dunno yet) of folk it seems the height of impossibility.

mircea_popescu: i wonder what's so hard about wot. people get in routinely, one a day by now or somesuch ☟︎

polarbeard: works like a charm, here is a patch for removing some unused functions if somebody is interested: https://github.com/polarbeard/trb/blob/master/patches/polarbeard_rm_unused_functions.vpatch https://github.com/polarbeard/trb/blob/master/sigs/polarbeard_rm_unused_functions.vpatch.polarbeard.sig ☟︎

Reydev: Ill register a sig later, dont have much useful to add anymore. Im building the richlist anyway, even if its just an exercise in the end :) and ill be lurking some

polarbeard: oh, okay, that's a separate tinyscheme tree ? to freeze & possibly work on it?

mircea_popescu: "hey guise, is seattle legit ? my girlfriend got a job here but i dunno... i looked on the itnernet and it seems like a real town and whatnot, but how can i be sure ?"

mircea_popescu: how about you register a pgp sig with assbot.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i left shiva1 an island to emphasize that it is a heathen and largely unverified turd (tinyscheme)

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> instrument of trolling >> a trawl? << A Trawler, like the boat. It puts out lines that catch lulz. ☟︎

asciilifeform: this is a legit point, 2 is not vtronically linked to 1

polarbeard: I certainly shaked the tree a bit, will recheck

mircea_popescu: the 1st symptom of a well written guide : author knows exactly what the user did wrong.

asciilifeform: instrument of trolling >> a trawl?

BingoBoingo: * mircea_popescu reads punkman's article by some lawyer. 1.st line ? "Bitcoin, a peer-to-peer electronic cash system, is intended to allow" << Tis of immense value as an instrument of trolling

mircea_popescu: i guess that can happen... i once knew a chick Dusty Diamond. she was a... ahem. cough. coder.

mircea_popescu: (iirc she ended up a candidate for some derpy party somewhere in their nordic system there. denmark perhaps)

Reydev: he was kind of a celeb there

mircea_popescu: notably, i have NEVER seen a woman so deeply humiliated as that chick obviously is

Reydev: i played wow for a while, dont ban me plz

assbot: Cel mai bun paladin din the world. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pr7ENi )

mircea_popescu lives in the sort of cave where even kardashian is more of a starlet than a celebrity.

Reydev: Hi all. For those holding a decent amount of BTC or other crypto, would you ever consider (pseudonymously) self-identifying on a richlist-like site purely existing to flaunt your riches?

mircea_popescu reads punkman's article by some lawyer. 1.st line ? "Bitcoin, a peer-to-peer electronic cash system, is intended to allow"

assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 08:01:06; punkman: "AFAIK Mark Karpelès hasn't been allowed any visits, not even contacts with his family and is not allowed to use a computer either. He already lost 35 kg but still hasn't accepted to be the scapegoat, which seems to be why he's still detained after more than 4 months, without any trial or official charges…"

BingoBoingo: Fucking revisionists. Apparently now caffeine and not "having been the world's fattest man" killed a one time world's fattest man http://www.sfgate.com/world/article/6-energy-drinks-a-day-blamed-for-death-of-6801521.php?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link

punkman: '"Oh, you wanted to *increment a counter*?! Good luck with that!" -- the distributed systems literature'

punkman: "AFAIK Mark Karpelès hasn't been allowed any visits, not even contacts with his family and is not allowed to use a computer either. He already lost 35 kg but still hasn't accepted to be the scapegoat, which seems to be why he's still detained after more than 4 months, without any trial or official charges…" ☟︎

assbot: I’m a web developer and I’ve been stuck with the simplest app for the last 10 days — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1V7VVEM )

ben_vulpes: https://medium.com/@pistacchio/i-m-a-web-developer-and-i-ve-been-stuck-with-the-simplest-app-for-the-last-10-days-fb5c50917df#.tq2thlp8r << checking in from the lulzfactory

assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/85ef912e10a7ae08

assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for DicePower with note: Euloran

assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/0aa13d1a7b98679a

assbot: Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: 9AF0C08E3C97CF0CCDC2F6E3201E1D0C00EDF5AB. This may take a few moments.

asciilifeform: ftr tumblr_nrqrymGFeu1uu92gho1_1280.jpg is the single hottest chick i've ever seen in a bitmap.

assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 15:00:13; asciilifeform: perhaps she had the face of a human, rather than ruminant, nfi

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403315 << WOAH this is one of maybe total 3 chix mircea_popescu linked that has a ~living face~ ☝︎

assbot: 0 results for 'https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/329' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fbitcoin%2Fbips%2Fpull%2F329

mircea_popescu: danielpbarron> would it help if there weren't any expectation of speedy order matching? I don't really care about sniping so much as setting long term orders and letting it sit for a while << kinda the entite fucking point of a broker in the first place.

shinohai: I'm not sure, more r/btc drama I haven't read through yet. I had to stop reading and help a buddy fix his broken core wallet.

assbot: The Anatomy of a Z80 Gate - Baltazar's Hacks ... ( http://bit.ly/20Pbubx )

danielpbarron: would it help if there weren't any expectation of speedy order matching? I don't really care about sniping so much as setting long term orders and letting it sit for a while

asciilifeform: i diagnose a severe, possibly life-threatening failure of the imagination...

asciilifeform: normally it is at this point when a fella is expected to mutter something about making machines from discrete transistors or ttl

asciilifeform: mic change, which only then becomes a secure basis for ciphering. We see none of that. None' << >> 'heavier than air flight requires an engine that is like our steam plant but weighs no more than 100kg. this cannot exist'

asciilifeform: 'If we accept the need for "hardware" encryption, we can talk about somehow originating a "pristine hardware system" to run it. But that also means maintaining a pristine (largely static) development system to build it.This, in a web environment designed to cause dynamic change and incidentally transport malware. That seems unlikely, but even if that worked, it means ending up with a cipher system which never allows algorith

asciilifeform: 'One example of the larger problem is that virtually all modern ciphering occurs on a general purpose computer. Our overall model of computation, upon which correctness in ciphering rests, does not include malware. ... [lengthy discussion of irrelevant crud assuming reader uses winbl0wz snipped]'

asciilifeform: or a rational root of 2.

asciilifeform: it is like asking for a quantity smaller than 0.

asciilifeform: but this is still idiocy, because otp is the ~definitional~ strong cipher. it is provably ludicrous to ask for a cipher in any sense whatsoever stronger than otp.

asciilifeform: if someone plants a mine under your car, 'cars have failed' ?

gernika: I suppose DNA is not a blockchain? Proof of sex?

BingoBoingo: Well, prehistoric camels had some role, but creation does not have a block chain so until all bones are dug and cataloged there is an element of mystery here

BingoBoingo: "It is virtually impossible to overload a camel. When, in a camel's considered opinion, the load strapped to it is excessive; it simply will not rise. Neither cursing nor beatings will budge an overloaded camel." << http://www.desertusa.com/animals/desert-camel-experiment.html

BingoBoingo: Last American president Jefferson Davis signed of on the import of camels when he was just a Senator

mircea_popescu: camel, like mule, doesn';t really give a shit.

mircea_popescu: camel needs a lot of training to be ridden

mircea_popescu: a dream, no matter how shared, is not a thing, nor could be a thing, and so does not matter to any actual thing.

mircea_popescu: for the record, the us is an example of nothing and a measuring stick for nothing,

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is still thinking like a normal person in some honest non-soviet economy

asciilifeform: 'i thought i had a good job! but that was before i learned, how we'd make 'new and tasty' ! '

asciilifeform: it isn't a ~bad job~

assbot: Logged on 01-02-2016 22:03:10; mircea_popescu: in other news : mp decides new heels and dress would go very well with a shiny-red lacquered leather ball gag. proceeds to inquire with a dozen or so sex shops in the farming town. they ALL have the same exact item.

assbot: 2 results for 'ball gag' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=ball+gag

mircea_popescu: in other "life sucks" news, i've been trying to buy a red lacquered fine leather ball gag for the past fucking week. this country thinks itself a masterful leather manufacturer, NOBODY has it.

asciilifeform: btw there is a version that turing discovered everett's device before everett

assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 16:26:09; mircea_popescu: no one can tell a man what his fucking life looks like!

jurov: everyone has a choice. but choices have consequences, at least for mere mortals.

asciilifeform: aha because mircea_popescu has a choice !

mircea_popescu: jurov not a bad working model for a preteen huh

mircea_popescu: no but seriously... spend some time doing SOMETHING OTHER than what you're doing ? dude, if i thought this is a good idea... i would just stop doing what i;m doing. that day. forever. wtf.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu was never a slave, so probably can't even conceptualize it

jurov: when i was a kid i have imagined adults fulfill their desires in some secret magical way, so that they don't eat cake all the time

asciilifeform: and it does not take a heroic amount of introspection to find oneself int his picture

mircea_popescu: i suspect every youthful generation's conviction the previous people are dumb and generally suck has a lot to do with this.

mircea_popescu: not what i meant. depends on what variant one entertains etc, but there is such a thing where the slave's the slave throughout the day, do what she may.

asciilifeform: well sure, there is a certain amount of 'like sledding? like pulling sled too!'

asciilifeform: i don't even sadomasochate but i always assumed that it was a hobby like any other

mircea_popescu: if shown a cheesecake picture, they DO in fact imagine that the woman looks like that from dawn to dusk, while shitting, etc.

asciilifeform: if i show a picture of, e.g., chess players, what , viewer will assume that they play from dawn to dusk until they drop, and while cleaning the house, eating, shitting ?

mircea_popescu: it is very mujch a boschian thing, specifically because of this tension.

asciilifeform: i immediately thought that this picture was not intended to represent 'typical day in the life' but rather is a boschian thing

mircea_popescu: with a fucking wrecking ball attached.

mircea_popescu: "In a rare bid for sanity, the Harford County School District had cancelled all field trips for students into Baltimore, as it is clearly an unsafe environment. The mulattress mayor [the same whore who let the city burn and then requested that 1,000 Somali refugees be settled in Baltimore] was outraged. Phone calls were made, and the school authorities waffled, and will now be sending their children into harm's way, wh

mircea_popescu: anyway. maximal density is the killer. yes, obedient slave takes whipping. there's a maximal % of her time she can spend being whipped.

mircea_popescu: you have a maximal puppy density that allows the biomass in question to stay puppy-shaped

mircea_popescu: sure, but that's a consideration on a different timescale.

asciilifeform: eventually ~everything~ is a silo of meat.