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nubbins`: i've got some ideas about an e-ink based hardware wallet that i haven'
t fully thought through, maybe i could collect 600 BTC in an ipo as well
mircea_popescu: pankkake i made the mistake of querying the mod that did it. here you go : "because wtf is mtgox already! look they've been announcing ltc for like a year. it's a dying dog saying it's going to start eating rabbits, i'm not taking bets on whether it actually does. besides, they're a known group of scammers and liars, what's to keep them from fronting ltc trades? and then obviously even if they did manage to implement
t fractal_: Luke-Jr: the blockchain data didn'
t nubbins`: i don'
t give a red fuck if someone's "corrupted by money" or what their morals are
nubbins`: fractal_: i don'
t care and that's not relevant. who taught you how to argue?
nubbins`: Luke-Jr: calling names isn'
t nice
fractal_: mp: pankkake isn'
t very smart, and wants to add more bad bets to bitbet, so that there are more problems like the one that just happened with bitfury....
pankkake: "Will MT. GOX be trading Litecoin as a currency before the end of 2013? " why was this rejected? I don'
t how it is unverifiable
nubbins`: the word "substantially" doesn'
t even belong there
fractal_: yes, i would agree that the bullshit bet was poorly worded bullshit and i shouldn'
t have bet
nubbins`: you didn'
t get robbed, you misjudged their ability to deliver a certain GH/s for a certain W
fractal_: i placed the bet because i didn'
t think the hardware was going to perform as advertised -- and it didn'
t fractal_: nubbins`: it wasn'
t though. the 400Gh unit , as advertised, only does 365Gh.
nubbins`: you make a convincing argument, but the bet doesn'
t mention anything about the components included
fractal_: so adding more hardware doesn'
t apply
fractal_: nubbins`: according to bitbet rules, the timestamp of the bet is what is advertsied -- it can'
t be changed after the fact.
fractal_: the joke isn'
t on me, its on everyone disagreeing
fractal_: the bet required the hardware to meet performance as advertised. it didn'
t fractal_: this unit, as advertised, doesn'
t do 400Gh
nubbins`: but the bet doesn'
t say "in your cup"
nubbins`: well, refurbs aren'
t relevant to this bet, although that'd be great news for the owners
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: i'm greedy, i don'
t return free things
Luke-Jr: nubbins`: but these WEREN'
T sold as discrete units
Bunnyh: fractal: ok, though i don'
t remember saying anything here :P
fractal: mp: maybe if the bet was a NO , as it should have been, then there wouldn'
t be any issues
Luke-Jr: I didn'
t even know who the yes betters were until just now
nubbins`: see, if the manufacturer had taped both units inside a shoebox, he could get away with calling two separate units a single unit. but he didn'
t. the guy who received the units said "here are my two units", and then just pretended that the two separate units were in fact collectively the smaller unit
fractal: Bunnyh: yes.... of course its 2 seperate units... Luke-Jr doesn'
t understand what a unit is....
mircea_popescu: it is still absolute, but that doesn'
t mean absolutely anything someone wants it to mean.
fractal: No, in this case, they brought 2 cups of coffe, because they didn'
t make 1 cup big enough
mircea_popescu: deizel wasn'
t making an analogy for the bet, was simply verifying the properties of must.
Luke-Jr: nubbins`: the bet didn'
t state how many boards the unit must be
nubbins`: yes, as you didn'
t state how full the cup should be
fractal: pankkake gets so mad at this thread. love to see his posts... also proves he doesn'
t have me on ignore.... lol.
mircea_popescu: i won'
t intervene in cases where one party is pissed off with the judge's ruling.
nubbins`: i'm mildly surprised you guys can'
t come to an agreement on this between yourselves
fractal: nubbins`: but they didn'
t get a 400Gh unit.
fractal: <Luke-Jr> nubbins`: correct, although I don'
t know if they're physically connected ----- don'
t you think it would be important to find this out before drawing a conclution?
nubbins`: If not everyone receives a 400 plus a 25, then you can'
t call the 400+25 a "unit"
fractal: Luke-Jr: it came out of your mouth 2 months ago. you woudn'
t merge-,mine namecoin because it had illegal data in the blockchain --- i want to know when you changed your mind and became corrupted by money
Luke-Jr: nubbins`: correct, although I don'
t know if they're physically connected
fractal: Luke-Jr: why won'
t you answer my question regarding merge mining namecoin. you know it is immoral. when did you become corrupted by monetary gain?
fractal: nubbins`: exactly.... thank god you can understand logic. Luke-Jr can'
t nubbins`: for that matter, if the unit only hashes at 365GH/s, then the "400 gigahash mining units" haven'
t even been delivered
fractal: you can'
t defy logic without paying a bribe
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: fractal claims you're a scammer; while I don'
t argue about that, I think you made the right call here
fractal: mp: basically Luke-Jr tried to accuse me of theft and stealing coins, based on some post from a christian church website on betting, because he thinkgs i knew the outcome before i made the bet, and didn'
t tell anyone about it in time for them to retract their bet
fractal: Luke-Jr: and by the way, bets on bitbet aren'
t bets. they are a contract, based on clauses in the FAQ, which read "Bets will not be cancelled because it became impossible for one side to win" ... this is against your morals post, which means everyone who bets on bitbet is not a moral better. which means they aren'
t betting, they're engaging in a contract
fractal: Luke-Jr: promote a set of morals that are false all you like, won'
t make it true
Luke-Jr: fractal: slander all you like, won'
t make it true
Luke-Jr: fractal: they aren'
t mine, and anyone who disagrees with the Church on morals is simply wrong
Luke-Jr: fractal: I don'
t decide morals.
Duffer1: i don'
t see how it's a scam if divs provide more income than your buy in
fractal: btw, i gave up on trying to convince idiots that buying mining equipment in USD that doesn'
t ROI in BTC terms is a bad idea....
fractal: now i'm actually using reverse reverse psychology so that you don'
t register it
fractal: just dont take bad bets. if the bet can'
t be broken down into logical symbols, dont take it
mircea_popescu: well no, as a fiction it wouldn'
t. once it's live i'm curious how that works.
fractal: fuckbitbet.com wouldn'
t take bad bets though in the first place, so it woudln'
t run into these problems
mircea_popescu: well if that's what you think i really can'
t wait for your competitor.
fractal: mp: so then why was the bitfury bet a yes when the hardware UNIT as advertised didn'
t do 400Gh? but only 365Gh????????????
pankkake: I don'
t remember. maybe it was really old and wanted OSS which I had disabled
pankkake: I tried a thing to make audio an source of entropy, but couldn'
t get it to work
mircea_popescu: pankkake you know one of the bright minds that made asics or wanted to make asics but didn'
t get to it in time should make a stick like that.
mircea_popescu: apparently linus
t was complicit in weakening linux rng implementation.
dexX7: i don'
t know. did he pay the $100k already? if so, it might be cash usd from his own pocket because of the inability to convert that amount of btc
assbot: I don'
t know those people, and they don'
t look very friendly.
fractal: but, of course you won'
t post again to the thread because people would see that you're wrong and you'd look pretty stupid ....
fractal: Luke-Jr: No, it doesn'
t. sorry.
Luke-Jr: and even if he did, he isn'
t the bet's judge
Luke-Jr: I'm sure he didn'
t mean to settle a bet with that
fractal: can'
t believe that so many people can'
t understand basic english,
pankkake: oh looks like I won my first bitbet bet. but I don'
t know which one it is
fractal: thestringpuller: actually, no, there isn'
t.
thestringpuller: If you honestly can'
t answer that question you have already failed.
fractal: Luke-Jr: heresay doesn'
t really help....
fractal: thestringpuller: thats why I'm smart. I know how to make money with 0% fees, and you don'
t fractal: the main reason i'm continuing this is because I'm completely shocked that members of the community don'
t understand the definition of the term UNIT. Even Luke-Jr , I thought he was supposed to be considered somewhat respected, can'
t understand what the term UNIT means
fractal: err... certainly won'
t amount to anything
fractal: benkay_: however, I can tell you that your dedication to this fruitless discussion , of which you don'
t even have a stake in, is certainly indicative of where your priorities lie,,, you likely won'
t amount to anything
Luke-Jr: doesn'
t change the fact you tried to ripoff everyone else of course, so I don'
t really care
fractal: so, that point doesn'
t really hold water either.
fractal: Luke-Jr: and regardless, they didn'
t want to repeal their bets... they were in here telling me i'm wrong
fractal: sure is, they don'
t lose anything
fractal: wrong, becuase it wouldn'
t have been in a single unit