log☇︎
11700+ entries in 0.007s
asciilifeform: well mp_en_viaje works on bringin' back kings, i'ma meanwhile this. brb, sawing apart testbed.
mp_en_viaje: even as we speak the dumb cunts over at uruguay are "trying to resolve amiably" through the age old process of "we fuck shit up and you agree with us it's okay"
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, custom nothing, it's on the list of your very personal peculiarities, if it ever was a custom it went out with the divine right of kings
mp_en_viaje: for some reason the detergent here smells like bubblegum, i smell like i've spent yesterday evening knee deep in thirteen year old and trying to re-collect all my shit strewn all over the place is like looking for car playing card things
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: in evil-saboteur-craftsman guild, we have this custom. not done yet tho, apparently even this recipe contains mistake. currently vivisecting.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/why-the-females-of-any-sexuate-species-are-necessarily-going-to-be-lazy-stupid-and-annoying/ << Trilema -- Why the females of any sexuate species are necessarily going to be lazy, stupid and annoying.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: python version on dulap is 3.5.4 though or what happened here?!
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, your tireless effort to help bridge minigame over is indeed quite touching.
diana_coman: ah, krankendenken got switched in place in private subscribes too, yee; thank you spyked.
spyked: lobbes, all done! new feed looks in order from this side, lemme know if you notice anything wrong
diana_coman: asciilifeform: can happily report success on the very same amd fx !
lobbes: spyked: speaking of, would you be able to update feedbot for new feed? http://www.krankendenken.com/feed/
lobbes: likewise, I've got a RedirectMatch set up that is pointing all old blog.lobbesblog links to the new url (assuming I don't change my permalink structure). Everything seems to be functional (server-side select, footnotes) except for the archives dropdown, for whatever reason. Not very pertinent though, so I'll worry about that later.
lobbes: ("blog.lobbesblog" was indeed clunky so I figured I'd take this opportunity to rebrand)
asciilifeform: if diana_coman et al ask , i'ma make a 1-stick mechanized installer for this . presently is hand-cranked recipe .
asciilifeform: ^ mainly for diana_coman . physically tested on a 'e350' amd, excavated for the occasion. req'd 0 changes to kernel config !!
BingoBoingo: I've been sent uniformative graphs that list IPs suggesting that whatever happened to the network, it didn't happen to my portion of Latecho's range alone per addresses printed on the graphics they sent. Here in the dark, hypotheses were made, but no useful information was ever delivered.
BingoBoingo: I suspect they do not have a legal department at their present staffing level.
BingoBoingo: At some point earlier I did name drop Doctors Tristan Narvaja and Eduardo Acevedo Maturana as the authors of some good prose. The local civil code is the first guy's work. Local commercial code a collaboration, but mostly the second guy.
BingoBoingo: Maybe I'm projecting too much from having seen his face go pale, but... my Maxi simulator with its admitedly small data set... it reads hedging and fear.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, nah, it reads like "legal told us we'll prolly end up paying through the nose and we told them we know better an' now gonna prove it! PEOPLE DO ANYTHING WE TELL THEM TO!!!"
BingoBoingo: them to be paid.
BingoBoingo: The remaining months of the contract, if they'd performed would have grossed for them maybe enough for them to get an ancient VW "Kombi" in the local automotive market that may or may not run. Maxi's "we want to work in an amicable way to finish this contract" sounds a lot like they want to say "please pay us to term even though we have become non-performant" while at the same time betraying the lack of balls and/or justification for
BingoBoingo: By contrast Based on the Monday sit down, if Oscar was empowered to act as a telecom manager in the way his title suggests... Maybe the week could have played out differently. Then again if I had a magic clicker that reset time back five minutes every time I clacked it, I may have never made it past age 5 or 13 much less 30 due to juvenile min-max attempts. But hypotheticals are hypotheticals.
mp_en_viaje: basically place got its careerwoman/retard, they tend to ruin things in exactly this manner.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Since this collapse started and this Maxi fellow appeared... Based on the Monday sit down Maxi would be a walking talking tort generator in a common law jurisdiction. Here in this Roman law jurisdiction he seems to be actively generating breaches, non-performance, and faltas. He's been shooting from the hip and clearly been a detriment to his apparently absentee boss.
BingoBoingo: I'm going to start shifting gears towards other parts of the cleanup while they sweat.
BingoBoingo: Well, they can sweat this weekend. I would rather not dedicate my life forever to ramming the baton up the assholes, but delivering the breaking of the balls this week... It's been more than cathartic. My parents dun went and raised me wrong.
mp_en_viaje: or just walk away from it altogether, if you don't feel like dedicating however many weeks/months of your future life to raming the baton up some anon idiots' asshole.
mp_en_viaje: and, i suppose, file a complaint for theft with your local police station, listing what you recall of what they made off with "and others", and whatever, $10k or w/e the aggregate cost fairly was.
mp_en_viaje: maybe, i guess, something like "I'm happy you understand the significant financial liabilty your misbehaviour over the past week exposes you to. We may consider a significant compensation offer ; but in principle we'd much rather pursue the matter through the legal system, so as to bring you as close to never being able to perpetuate such in the future as at all possible."
mp_en_viaje: doesn't seem like it needs an answer tbh.
asciilifeform: 'if your infrastructure team have been designed a more robust security solution, that why the only solution that we found, was send your IPs to a black hole' << reads like fucking pinoy tards
BingoBoingo received a response http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=ASca Note 1. In some of the useless graphs they shared, it appeared IPs outside the pizarro range though inside the latech range had been targeted. Note 2. All that had been said before with respect to CenturyLink is that CenturyLink wasn't answering inqueries from either Dedicado or CenturyLink
BingoBoingo: Fellow in the local network has offered to make some introductions with respect to some potential future work oportunities in country.
BingoBoingo: Likely going to end up having to fabricate boxes fot the servers requesting shipping, aside from the "phd assembly line" aspect doable.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-11 11:57:49 mp_en_viaje: "Inasmuch as my key doesn't work and you seem dedicated to ignoring even the lowest level of service coinceivable, I'm guessing my contract ends through your egregious breach and ends up litigated as fraud ?"
BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-11#1944969 << Fired off variation of this. Changed breach to breaches.
feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/2019/welcome-to-the-tar-pit << The Tar Pit -- Welcome to The Tar Pit! again.
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile 34 KKKalifornia counties are going to lose power for up to 5 days in the name of safety. As the driving rain continues outside.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: I'm still inclined to assemble chapter and verse before firing off anything. Not like another up to 48 hours of their sweat is going to damage anything.
mp_en_viaje: "Inasmuch as my key doesn't work and you seem dedicated to ignoring even the lowest level of service coinceivable, I'm guessing my contract ends through your egregious breach and ends up litigated as fraud ?"
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Indeed. It's like... WTF they don't expect folks to do their own manual labor and their don't expect folks to do their own reading either
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, sadly ; hence the opening of the discussion.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, lmao, so they don't answer re your key but whine about your contract ?
BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje> eventually ima hve to rely on something. << In light of the current mess, probably a lot of somethings available readily in volume.
mp_en_viaje: somewhere, down the line, eventually.
mp_en_viaje: eventually ima hve to rely on something.
asciilifeform: dun rely on 1 d00d w/ short life expectancy , like on phf. the instructions are there, and are to be used.
asciilifeform: btw i agree w/ mp_en_viaje's larger pt, if folx dun get up off arse and ~use~ asciilifeform's published instructions to actually replicate his 'magical' irons -- then yes will die of bolix plague !
mp_en_viaje: and i'd like to get the new assumptions -- if not correct ; at least closer to.
mp_en_viaje: now i am forced to rebuild, around new assumptions.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-11 11:43:50 asciilifeform: if mp_en_viaje , diana_coman , et al, ran the risk/roi calculation and it only came out in favour of FG vs. intel rng because thought that piz could never die or that iron can be teleported , but w/ dead piz and realization that cannot be teleported -- goes other way, then so wills allah -- but asciilifeform objects to the accusation of 'scam'. erryone knew for what signed up.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-11#1944931 << i didn't sign up for pizarro service for a coupla years. i singed up for permanent, and built business around that assumption/
BingoBoingo: But still no word on WTF with the keys
BingoBoingo: So after playing dumb with the keys recieved this. After the running around part of the day's tasks plan to assemble something quoting chapter and verse while at the same time requesting we both work out a way to take this mess of a contract off our books in an amicable manner without making things more expensive than necessary. In no hurry to send anything off yet.
mp_en_viaje: it's a broken fucking mindset keeps producing the same type of error, "oh, we blackholed it". duh. because why, because in the imaginary world they live in, the cost to that is arbitratrily and self-allotedly 0.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: yes; I'll start today and hopefully it won't take *that* long (no real idea though).
diana_coman: this freenode-issue is to my eyes quite close to the isp-issue really
mp_en_viaje: even tcp'd have been ok by itself. the "pingpacket" thing is dumb.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I'll run it, as promised on all amd around, at the very least; will at least have *something* to say after that, I guess.
mp_en_viaje: everything would be absolutely fine, if not for freenode misdesign, giving a damned ping packet too much power
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, no, it's a simple statistical thing, occasionally manages to spew out enough junk so that the magic freenode packet is in the left out part of the spew
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: loox like hooligan might be sending forced tcp close in 'your' ip .
mp_en_viaje: so my megapipe is occasionally overwhelmed. so what. "oh, if you're receiving 2Gbps just when freenode decided to issue ping, you've a 50-50 shot at an exact equialent of latechco technology of blackholing, you have to remake the whle fucking connection" holy shit where the fuck do they crawl from
mp_en_viaje: incidentally, this "ping" design whereby ONE PACKET stands for the connection, and if it is lost you're dc'd is so fucking dumb
diana_coman: asciilifeform: why do you keep going on about the FG. Nobody said the FG were the trouble, wtf.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: you've the compl. pcb masks etc. , anyone with basic 10 grade education can make FG .
asciilifeform: if mp_en_viaje , diana_coman , et al, ran the risk/roi calculation and it only came out in favour of FG vs. intel rng because thought that piz could never die or that iron can be teleported , but w/ dead piz and realization that cannot be teleported -- goes other way, then so wills allah -- but asciilifeform objects to the accusation of 'scam'. erryone knew for what signed up.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-11 11:24:30 asciilifeform: cuz asciilifeform too stupid to run a piz. but can have all the parts you need, w/ worldwide deliv, at cost.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-11#1944894 << until you'll be too old to move ? like it was the case of symbolics folk ?
mp_en_viaje: dia i don't propose you should die with that horse. give it a fair run down, and report.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I am hesitating re my exhaustion because I'm not sure that is much of a measure otherwise; sure, I can and will try it at least on what I already have and if it works, there is at least that data.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, that work ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i was commenting primarily re the 'opteron', to point that you do not in fact ~must~ ('scammed by evil craftsman') use the particular machine ! can use 9000 diff machines. simply bother to inspect for physical space 1st.
diana_coman: now ofc how the fuck to "test to exhaustion" here, not like I have the full range of amd and I'm not living in a dc either, ugh.
mp_en_viaje: so let's revisit it once more when you have an answer to the above.
mp_en_viaje: now, to continue the original diana_coman q : it seems maybe we don't have to answer this in any definitive sense just yet
mp_en_viaje: i was not discussing fg specifically nor do i intend to in this context.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: again, if 'customization is dangerous b/c may end up having to physically ship irons rather than lease 'amazon'' then yes. but you knew this going into FG. but the implication that 'he scammed me into building FG' is disingenuous, FG built before piz, w/ mp_en_viaje's expert judgement & consent, and at no pt was there problem in supplying mp_en_viaje or 50+ other folx w/ it on sched.
mp_en_viaje: i had no objection to the run -- and paid for it ; pizarro failed. the expectation that this may be sustained in the general will need more bones and tears than mere "oh, socialism good idea poorly applied" level nonsense.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the config as given is amdistic correct.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: the 'specified' describes strictly asciilifeform's judged machine. it is not anywhere proclaimed that 'must ONLY' on such machine. i've FG plugged into a toshiba 586 here.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: if I got this straight, you say the "specific" here is simply "any amd" , right?
mp_en_viaje: IF one buys on the principle of customization, rather than commodification, THEREFORE one also buys the downstream. and, upon examination rather than theory, the downstream shows itself more expensive than thought, and may yet show itself more expensive than humanly sustainable.
mp_en_viaje: not with the this-or-that.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, yes, but the problem is with "specified type".
mp_en_viaje: so, i guess 1 can lay pending for a while, see what comes of this test.
asciilifeform: what type of machine mp_en_viaje et al use, is b/w him and odin. and i object to the implication that 'scammed' him into using particular type that is 'magically sauced'. at any pt mp_en_viaje was free to reject asciilifeform's rec and demand a different type.
mp_en_viaje: this is certainly worth checking to exhaustion, because, obviously (and if not obviously, stated above), pizarro's failure is not merely a business matter, but also has serious intellectual repercussions.
diana_coman: hm, I suppose now I'll have to test it on various amd I have around
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if intel then recompile . if amd, will run as given.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: eh, recompile kernel to fit that, at the very least, no?
asciilifeform: evidently i bungled even this doc. ( what other docs that i published, apparently made 0 sense ? )
diana_coman: asciilifeform: yes, but I need to get precisely same hardware too, that opteron etc.
asciilifeform: yest. put in documentation for 100% of the 'evil custom env.'
mp_en_viaje: and, as a general point, living in environments this elaborate is expensive and dangerous.
mp_en_viaje: as things stand right now, in point of fact as diana_coman might well point out, the ~one argument available from strict minigame pov as to why even get test server there was "save on the hassle of trying to reproduce env".
asciilifeform: cuz asciilifeform too stupid to run a piz. but can have all the parts you need, w/ worldwide deliv, at cost.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: (very good flame, btw, the arms pic, i've no counter) but you haven't actually been 'fucked over by craftsmen' yet re FG, not only asciilifeform can make for you as many FG as you want, but so can successors, item is 100% documented.