asciilifeform: what does putting 74e20d520ba4ecfdb59d98ac213deccecf591c9c6bfc5996ac158ab6facd6611cce7dd22120b63ebe9217f159506f352ce0ee6c0c2a1d200841ae21635dc5f9a in two different places, give you ?
asciilifeform: (which is what i gather mircea_popescu intended to do in his paste)
asciilifeform: they have entirely different paths, and so making them explicitly state their path, will not save you
asciilifeform: show me what 'correctly reference their antecedent hashes' would look like.
asciilifeform: and that this sequence could be as long as one could possibly like, 10,001 if we like.
asciilifeform: carefully note that the patches a2 and b2 are not the same.
asciilifeform: the example i just posted involves two people, 'a' and 'b', who follow entirely different paths, come to same place, because they do not know about one another and there is no clock. now you can give them a place to put magical comment, but again they have to have a drumbeat or agreement method of one kind or another, or they can still follow this same path.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu takes the patch, writes it in corpses of usg soldiers in the desert, photographers come, it is printed in every paper in the world; now -- ordered.
asciilifeform: fortunately there are other ways of unambiguous ordering for the record.
asciilifeform: +#Patch for 53fedeea28a5b6608b422f90f8c28e97c4604d6da5c18b8167b10c994166d8f0b47cd07bca8a6e4e53b6a961bef75f494c70e97437b7afd2d69c4110d7c06575
asciilifeform: it does not in point of fact have a unique 'last patch applied', because there is no way to prevent two people who do not know about one another from both writing :
asciilifeform: for starters, a patch can antecedentize 10,001 other patches.
asciilifeform: what does the string 'Patch for genesis' do in mircea_popescu's paste example ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i understand, your solution to cycles is to demand that no two patches be equal.
asciilifeform: the inequality can only be enforced by an outside synchronizer.
asciilifeform: which is same problem as in ordinary v.
asciilifeform: they will if the payload is the same.
asciilifeform: you can ban it, as shown above in mircea_popescu's paste, by demanding that no new patch produce the antecedent of an old one.
asciilifeform: sure we can. at least under my original vtron, this was a legal operation because it does not produce an eternal walk.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this destroys the ability to see that we in fact returned to genesis. has it occurred to you to wonder why even to have patches at all? why not everyone just signs the entire hindenburg titanic of trb every time he changes a line ?!
