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nubbins`: flat stock is something people put on their wall & admire -- see "Imagine a game" bitcoin posters
nubbins`: fucking up a t-shirt print = $6 wasted. fucking up a poster = $0.70 wasted
nubbins`: thestringpuller you're technically still a child at 28
asciilifeform still has a few sealed ones in crate
mircea_popescu: * asciilifeform had nfi >> you recall, we made a t-shirt design, he agreed to print for a very nice rate, ended up storing them for us.
nubbins`: 's a reaosnable variety of ways one could blow $10k
nubbins`: what i'm asking is if toilet paper is a good suggestion, or if a motorcycle is a good suggestion
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 02:44:42; *: asciilifeform all ears for ideas re: on what to blow a modest (~10kusd) worth of coin while it is still worth something.
nubbins`: easily actually a thing that's real too
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 12:59:16; nubbins`: or did you guys just assume that bitbet divs and a vidya game were enough to keep it all together
nubbins`: or did you guys just assume that bitbet divs and a vidya game were enough to keep it all together ☟︎
assbot: 3 results for 'from:mircea_popescu divesting' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Amircea_popescu+divesting
nubbins`: in retrospect, prob pulled the trigger a bit early on ordering tees
nubbins`: speaking of work, i have a large number of S.NSA t-shirts still taking up space in my basement
nubbins`: it's a "work machine", so i'm more concerned about how it runs illustrator than how well it protects the private keys that aren't on it
nubbins`: but it was beterrn that and the 6502 for a while
nubbins` went and built a computer from parts
asciilifeform: want an addr, mine a block.
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 07:26:07; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: how would you limit the number of addresses/coinbases in a pow-for-addr scheme?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423470 << trivially: an addr is valid if a coinbase some time fed it, and not otherwise. (in this hypothetical alt) ☝︎
ben_vulpes: i think that the above change would necessitate a new genesis block, as i suspect that difficulty is far too high for the hardware capable of hashing as described to generate a single block in any sort of reasonable time
assbot: The necessary prerequisite for any change to the Bitcoin protocol on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1QWvD4x )
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: how would you limit the number of addresses/coinbases in a pow-for-addr scheme? ☟︎
assbot: I'll pay for your tits on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1SrkpdO )
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/#comment-116709 << lose a kingdom, gain another, or how did that go.
gernika: asciilifeform: cheapair.com seems to still take btc. I bought some tix to europe from them with btc a few years ago.
mircea_popescu: a well. i shall go out and have some myself.
mircea_popescu: +5 lbs guaranteed over a week, 96% or more from icecream.
mircea_popescu: so send the pet over on a btc-fueled joyride.
mircea_popescu: heck, you could come over for a spell.
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asciilifeform all ears for ideas re: on what to blow a modest (~10kusd) worth of coin while it is still worth something. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "The anger of the base directed at anything: socialism, political correctness, brown people, etc; which they feel is giving them an unfair shake. This demographic also carries a substantial number of people among them who have traits that make them readily victimized for con artists." missing a verb, no idea what's going on at the end and prolly 50% too many words
CrazyTruthYakDDS: in 3 months, eth has gone from 30m to close to a billion
assbot: 116 results for 'waterfall' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=waterfall
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2016#1423367 << aha! in brin's ver, it was a traveller, who didnt like the food, and before packing up, spitefully shouts 'hey guyz! some of you have horns!' ☝︎
gribble: The importance of backups, from the other side. on Trilema - A blog ...: <http://trilema.com/2015/the-importance-of-backups-from-the-other-side/>
asciilifeform: http://puzzling.stackexchange.com/a/28196
mircea_popescu: well yes, in principle anyone left holding "a very slow, unreliable and expensive visa run by idiots" is definitionally a bagholder.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu does know what it is called when a king divests, though.
mod6: i need a soda.
mircea_popescu: engineering consistently presents management with two options : a) either shit takes forever or b) well now there's no pistol.
asciilifeform: but every computer user knows that a bad schelling point can take generations to dislodge.
asciilifeform: i think i described a good bit of it here.
mircea_popescu: mod6 even if - and consider i'm speaking of a purely cartoon view of reality, merely for illustration purposes - even if trbf "misses the boat" and instead dilligently focuses on fixing satoshi code, and three years later the "winner" of july competition falls on sword that trbf actually fouind and fixed, the relative position of trbf in the world has not suffered one iota.
mircea_popescu: i'm not even sure we actually took a single walk around the whole item
asciilifeform: punkman: if you want a dollar cardano, call up ft meade and rsa co., they will happily sell it to you today!
danielpbarron would have been more surprised if either 1) bitcoin didn't fail or 2) bitcoin didn't become some sort of one world government causing monster of a thing
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mod6: we should probably discuss solutions, write a spec of new bitcoin, then implement new bitcoin
mircea_popescu: it had a failure mode that was known forever. so ?
mircea_popescu: how is feb 5th differfent from march 5th ? there's a pile of shitty code implementing sort-of kinda badly a concept, that's being extracted to light.
BingoBoingo: What, no faith in hawalla over gossipd? or a well-designed altcoin ever happening?
asciilifeform: i suppose it will buy a resistor.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Anyways you've got warrants in a substantial portion of S.NSA which are convertible to BTC or its successor on MPEx
mircea_popescu: (i'm not porposing you have a lot - merely poking fun at the rounding process you prolly use regardless)
assbot: Noob MP, or how it all began on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ygk7qH )
mircea_popescu: this particular system, for instance, i've been running for a while now on a half dozen long etc hosts, i don't even notice.
asciilifeform: or a usable computer.
asciilifeform: go buy a working cramershoup on this blackmarket?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a world where a lizard can print is by no reasonable description 'free'.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck did you imagine the various items and pillars to build a coherent world-envelloping system come to me so easily ? i'm not coming up with fucking wot-economy and pgp-corporations and all this de novo, i'm just applying to pre-existing items!
asciilifeform: and yes, bitcoin is not a boat, but a plank from broken boat.
mircea_popescu: without these things ~free world accessible to arbitrary $fortune~ is a dream.
asciilifeform: without these things, free world is a dream.
mircea_popescu: sound money can at best be a practical foundation.
asciilifeform: again spurious analogy. or is mircea_popescu about to explain how tmsr still has a philosophical foundation without sound money.
mircea_popescu: in general "what to do" has been a foremost topic in everyone's head for days now, i would imagine.
mircea_popescu: we at the very least achieve a very useful head of a mongoloid on a stick for the education of future retarded children of (principally) asian mothers,
asciilifeform: mod6: but remember, this is only a pill against demoooocracy
mircea_popescu: but anyway - there's a substantial difference between the degree of brokedness bitcoin experienced between 2010 and about 2013ish, where imbecile independent miners nevertheless gave their vote blank to "pool" operators (mcuh like idiot shareholders let the various brokers to vote for them)
assbot: 11 results for 'non-outsourceable' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=non-outsourceable
mircea_popescu: ah, that post was made in a happier time, a more innocent time.
mircea_popescu: nobody in the us has done a spot of work in about fifty years.
mircea_popescu: it ended, long ago, various 2nd hand leaders a la putin now and again go to kick the once-great, currently ridiculous loser.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i suppose it's absolutely obvious and entirely uncontroversial that a bitcoin with cartel-mining is entirely uninteresting to everyone.
asciilifeform: and to a bitcoin user, currencies that have to mive physically, or hawalate, are all stone knives.
mircea_popescu: mod6 because more or less then, it'll be a case of "well... what does everyone use ?"
mod6: Why is july a thing? This doesn't make sense. If prb wants to fork a centralized mining protocol, that doesn't make it any less dead.
BingoBoingo: mod6: Well, work on a trb with a new genesis block could be an interesting skeleton for altcoin. It opens the door to flensing far deeper.
mod6: if this is all correct, then i agree with alf. there is no reason to continue work on trb - we should suspend, indefinately, all efforts therein. At least until somehow we have a re-write that resolves these issues.
JuliaTourianski_: reddit is a pool of people who should never breed
asciilifeform: if you're talking about gold and you aren't wearing a crown and leading an army -- delusional.
BingoBoingo: Becaus ewe can't have a republic without money
mircea_popescu: now imagine what other incredibly dumb shit they imagine is a good idea for crying out loud.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo imagine someone somewhere thinking this is a good idea.
mircea_popescu: hopefully some hicks from missouri capture you and i can hear all about the ozarks supremacy for a while.
asciilifeform: i'm a prisoner.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btc cartel is a bunch of dudes with some technical ability and no clue generally.
mircea_popescu: if whatever you're doing is threatened by a government, you're either very stupid or very lazy.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> (because there is no satisfactory way of bootstrapping any alt.) << in principle a ~WELL DESIGNED~ alt with a ~WELL CHOSEN~ pow would work quite well.
asciilifeform: (tldr: hawala over gossipd. an end to the 'anyone is a bank' dream.)
asciilifeform: and, as usual, i have a pill against these boojums, but it is very bitter and i promise that no one will want it.
BingoBoingo: A boat which, in scuttling value we can float new boat in?
BingoBoingo: So, how do we make a better boat on the open sea?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: we had a rusty old boat. it was pathetic and barely floated, but it was a boat.
ben_vulpes: so cartelization, preservation of extant btc distribution not even desireable. sounds like a new genesis, altcoin, if the prototype is even preserveable?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: yer a bit early for the gotterdammerung. give it time.
mircea_popescu: anyway, ftr, re ben_vulpes link (not that i've read it or intend to read random derpage from nobodies on topics) - years ago protecting miner investment made sense as a topic.