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fluffypony: mircea_popescu: hah, interventions are for quitters

jurov: hm, seems like mircea_popescu recently got a propensity to solutions that break under bad external circumstances

gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user cgcardona_ to user mgk: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=cgcardona_&dest=mgk | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mgk | Rated since: never

gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user cgcardona_ to user assbot: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=cgcardona_&dest=assbot | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=assbot | Rated since: Fri Apr 11 02:04:55 2014

mircea_popescu: cgcardona_ it is a very powerful idea

Mats_cd03: mircea_popescu: word is, theyre participating in the distribution of heroin. not kids anymore

mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 just a buncha derpy kids. at least a decade ago

assbot: Voicing Mats_cd03 for 30 minutes.

moiety: !up Mats_cd03

asciilifeform: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61HnFypZdfL._SX300_.jpg

mircea_popescu: mike_c let's take the violence out of it. if you had one cock...

moiety: i would have to go with btctalk mike_c

mircea_popescu: mike_c no argument there.

mircea_popescu: mike_c ok mr cool head, go ahead, piss on my parade.

mircea_popescu: http://www.businessinsider.com/now-its-personal-sf-protesters-targeting-tech-execs-by-name-2014-4?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+typepad%2Falleyinsider%2Fsilicon_alley_insider+%28Silicon+Alley+Insider%29

ozbot: http://37.media.tumblr.com/c156e823fbca3bb9580538c1deab8d7c/tumblr_mfp7stokJe1racc9so1_1280.jpg

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: conformal co. - the reimplement bitcoind folks?

Azelphur: mircea_popescu: yea, I'm pretty sure I showed you the prototypes at some point

Azelphur: mircea_popescu: I would have if I started running a brokerage being in England ;)

Azelphur: mircea_popescu: nah, remember you wanted me to open a brokerage, and I did a lot of code, but didn't release it because of the whole going to jail thing.

moiety: just personal taste after the other day mircea_popescu

Azelphur: mircea_popescu: sorry, designing the frontend for*

artifexd: mircea_popescu: I'm starting to understand why you like these guys. Here's a quote that I find particularly compelling:

moiety: http://youtu.be/_O6bWb7oEuE?t=40s this bit even

moiety: http://youtu.be/_O6bWb7oEuE?t=45s sorry took me a while to find it

mircea_popescu: mike_c is he a younger cousin that's known or just a cousin that's not so well known ?

mircea_popescu: mike_c because the requisite for working power is limited power.

benkay: mircea_popescu: commons trasher.

mircea_popescu: and mike_c : downin' ain't the same thing as just ignoring it.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was hoping he'd go into 'tilt' and cough up the truth.

moiety: glad to hear it mircea_popescu i've been away a wee bit

benkay: mike_c: i swear to god

moiety: hi mircea_popescu :) how are you?

mircea_popescu: <cgcardona_> sweet. i can speak. << wd.

[\]: mike_c: why you gotta be a downer?

bounce: o_O? this is IRC, man.

gribble: NSA knew about Heartbleed for two years - Bloomberg — RT USA: <http://rt.com/usa/nsa-knew-heartbleed-hacking-years-004/>; DO NOT USE TOR RIGHT NOW. HEARTBLEED IS AFFECTING ALL ...: <http://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/22k76z/do_not_use_tor_right_now_heartbleed_is_affecting/>; If You Want Privacy or Anonymity or Security, Stay Off the Internet ...: (1 more message)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik, no u.s. carrier will sell unlimited (or even 'unlimited') wireless data for any price a human might pay

mircea_popescu: http://24.media.tumblr.com/42d9287b1d61c7cd9017c4b8ca023631/tumblr_n0803lmgg11ssm832o1_500.jpg

ozbot: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcfedyMlLh1rhboewo1_500.gif

mircea_popescu: http://www.mimiboutique.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/cheylas_studded_bag_papaya1-720x720.jpg

lampelina: might work for you too mircea_popescu :)

khersonus: mircea_popescu: I saw that, but it hadn't been updated for quite some time, but if it works for you it'll work for me

kakobrekla: btw mircea_popescu your shoes comment made lampelina pissy.

khersonus: mircea_popescu: I know, I just found it amusing that you phrased it like that (I'd expect it more from a US southerner)

assbot: Insufficient rights, mircea_popescu.

kakobrekla: yes mircea_popescu i fixed it

assbot: Insufficient rights, mircea_popescu.

gribble: Use the gettrust command instead. See http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/OTC_Rating_System#Relying_on_the_rating

fluffypony: mircea_popescu: Great article

mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 it's a ratnul

nubbins`: https://dancingreview.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/365b92ff1d394e9915162d4e6feb815d_01.jpg

assbot: Voicing Mats_cd03 for 30 minutes.

bounce: !up Mats_cd03

cgcardona_: mircea_popescu: been wondering how that all works. will check that out as well. thx

bounce: cgcardona_: could try ;;later tell mgk <your message here>

assbot: Voicing cgcardona_ for 30 minutes.

kakobrekla: !up cgcardona_

robwhiz22: fluffypony, as mircea_popescu and asciilifeform have shown by slipping 4 months on their delivery schedule, it is extremely difficult to bring a security product to market. Plus, it's their idea. It really would be better for them to have the proposals for their consideration. I suppose they can also share in here if they want wider feedback.

robwhiz22: well, mircea_popescu has said in channel that he put me on ignore (a strange reaction after inviting me in here.) As I presume he and the chief engineer make joint decisions, the only way the investors in s.nsa will have the benefits of the new design, and corrections to the existing design, is if they pay for them as part of supporting their investment. ("Adding value", so they say.)

robwhiz22: mircea_popescu, I could be wrong of course.

robwhiz22: mircea_popescu, however I believe you are not interested in selling snake oil and would be genuinely interested in creating a product that meets your basic claims about it.

robwhiz22: mircea_popescu, if you were not interested I would have expected that reply from you to one of my two follow-up emails.

robwhiz22: fluffypony, it's an EXTREMELY unusual request from mircea_popescu that business be conducted here.

robwhiz22: They will only receive a copy of the proposal if mircea_popescu and asciilifeform decide to share it however. It is important not to get people's expectations up if some feature won't be included in the first iteration, for example.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: even so - it is good to have it.

robwhiz22: asciilifeform, it was my understanding that you and mircea_popescu have taken investment for it. Why would you use it to manufacture sometihng faulty that does not meet its described usage case? That is fraudulent.

robwhiz22: mircea_popescu and asciilifeform are selling hte snake oil that they will fix this. They have taken investment for it. Their solution is totally broken and unfit for this usage case.

robwhiz22: The idea of the Cardano is quite simple. It is described in mircea_popescu's specs: http://trilema.com/2013/snsa-first-product-the-cardano/ -- it says, "Consider the case of visiting a random net cafe or public library. Without Cardano you are in a relatively tough spot : even should you carry your gpg keyring and gpg software on a USB stick, and even should you be able to install gpg software on the respective computer, typing in t

dexX7: i once reported a gui issue on github and his response was "In any case feel free to make it what you think is better, I'm sick of bikeshedding about these kind of details." >_>"

bounce: o_O?

assbot: Voicing mius_ for 30 minutes.

nubbins`: !up mius_

nubbins`: ;;later tell mircea_popescu mid-30s isn't old if you're a tree

khersonus: mircea_popescu: sorry, was afk. Heh, yeah, need to work on the blog a bit.

mircea_popescu: bounce.com?q=derpy_nick

mircea_popescu: in other news, http://37.media.tumblr.com/7e7b7c3cc7116db48b6d5fc1aa2ba7f4/tumblr_mzyn5lRZVl1skfvtio1_500.jpg

bounce: in this case the ouput looks like 12.rater_nick nubbins` (made up data)

khersonus: mircea_popescu: fixed, thanks.

mircea_popescu: maybe a _

bounce: which brings up another question, why does diff give me 5 lines difference? o_O?

turbo_ac100: mircea_popescu: yeah, hi.