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asciilifeform: (for those who do not - eventually it became 'a sense', and when the thing fell out he was quite distressed and felt blinded)
trinque: it also seems to suggest that mind-amplification is a much nearer goal than AI, as the brain's own ability to handle new inputs can be leaned upon
trinque: the above doesn't seem to bode well for having a model of cognition any time soon
asciilifeform: trinque: do you recall the article where some fella implanted a small magnet into his finger ?
trinque: this leads to being able to wire visual inputs into the tongue, and having the brain eventually learn to make a picture from this ☟︎
trinque: I have a friend in prosthetics who once explained at length to me that the brain doesn't begin knowing how to see, smell, etc ☟︎
nubbins`: this is a terrifyingly accurate representation of meat-based life, i fear
assbot: Logged on 26-01-2016 17:20:06; ascii_butugychag: (there was a spiffy talk at shmoo, which mentioned how nn used in image recognition usually imprints on what - to a human - would be an entirely accidental cluster of pixels, and if you flip'em, it will recognize an obvious, e.g,. cat, as a refrigerator, etc)
asciilifeform: so you get a box that sorta, most of the time, does X, but 1) sometimes fails spectacularly for no apparent reason, as if 'alive' and 2) teaches the builder ~absolutely nothing~ useful about X
asciilifeform: i.e. attempting to get to the bottom of what thought process ~is~, in a meaningful way
thestringpuller: i have a feeling same was said when deep blue beat kasparov...
thestringpuller: yea. a lot of selling pressure recently. i think node blockchain survived I'll see when it tried to load the index tonight. definitely going to back this thing up daily...
nubbins`: investors apparently took the pronouncement as a sign of things... not being quite well.
nubbins`: cool, he wrote a whole article about me on trilema!
mircea_popescu: mircea_popescu> and more importantly, because once expressed the current situation becomes tolerable << INtolerable, obviously. and in all fields. much like a smoky kitchen wall is tolerable for just as long as you don't see any actual white stuff for contrast. but bring in a new stove, suddenly the wall needs a paintjob too.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin, in any proper sense, means the republic, and the wot, and the forum, and so on. and similarly "cryptography" means "a bunch of derps on usenet" much in the same way space flight means chimps with monkeys. yes, the inclination to see inanimate objects fly is the same in both animals.
mircea_popescu: "bitcoin" in the sense of a collection of (whitepaper by satoshi, 2-3 shitty mutually exclusive prototypes by satoshi, even shittier code in prb) is much like "russia" in the sense of "the kiev kingdom".
asciilifeform: 3 is not a solution if you don't give a fuck about 'next generation' and would rather experience some sanity yourself, or die trying
mircea_popescu: oh, more radio stations ? great, now the cars are all designed by imbeciles for imbeciles. let's make more houses in autocad! this is how a city looks!
mircea_popescu: this is a major problem, at least to my eyes. it was just as large, if not nearly as expressible, before the age of bitcoin. by which, to be perfectly specific, i do not mean satoshi crapolade. i mean bitcoinb as in tmsr, and wot and ba and such.
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2016 13:33:19; *: mircea_popescu is incredibly fucking glad he never gave in to the temptation as a child, and systematically never regarded go as anything above or beyond parlor trick to entertain oneself with teh nude houri postcoitally, in spite of perhaps reasonable and well reasoned arguments to the contrary. ☟︎
mircea_popescu is incredibly fucking glad he never gave in to the temptation as a child, and systematically never regarded go as anything above or beyond parlor trick to entertain oneself with teh nude houri postcoitally, in spite of perhaps reasonable and well reasoned arguments to the contrary. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2016 13:26:24; nubbins`: more like "case 2: the shop pays a cleaner once a month to clean rugs. random asshole thought the rug cleaners weren't coming so he paid a second rug cleaning service to clean the rugs. then the regular rug cleaners came and cleaned the rug again. then random asshole tries to bill the shop for a needless rug cleaning that he ordered himself"
nubbins`: more like "case 2: the shop pays a cleaner once a month to clean rugs. random asshole thought the rug cleaners weren't coming so he paid a second rug cleaning service to clean the rugs. then the regular rug cleaners came and cleaned the rug again. then random asshole tries to bill the shop for a needless rug cleaning that he ordered himself" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "I don’t regret accepting this challenge," said Lee. "I am in shock, I admit that, but what's done is done. I enjoyed this game and look forward to the next. I think I failed on the opening layout so if I do a better job on the opening aspect I think I will be able to increase my probability of winning."
mircea_popescu: do they play a different go where they're from ?
mircea_popescu: "I was very surprised," said Lee after the match. "I didn't expect to lose. I didn't think AlphaGo would play the game in such a perfect manner.
nubbins`: gonna be weird running a business with a scammer who hates you
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2016 04:10:08; mircea_popescu: kakobrekla> they also arent comparable in a sense << or in the sense of "case 1 is a derpy kid who tried his derpy time-arbitrage scheme without having the first clue as to what that entails, then whined to be made whole when it blew up" vs "case 2 - someone came into a shop, shot a patron, and now the business is charging the carpet cleaning against on its expense account". hurr durr, "the police sh
punkman: I played online tournaments with Apprentice a lot for a while. Now I wonder what kind of security/crypto the thing implemented, if any.
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2016 03:31:17; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-03-2016#1427413 << my brother was once a game programmer, for a co. that has died many years ago, and they had the contract of producing the 'official' mtg client. he had to learn the rules of the game, with much loathing, and play it for year+ straigh, all day, every day, with loathing, possibly more hours than just about anyone alive
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-03-2016#1427481 I remember the official client was impossibly clunky and annoying when I used it. Must have been an epic quest to cover all the edge cases in the game's rules. "Apprentice" was kinda cool, just gave you a tabletop and you had to manually make all the moves. ☝︎
fluffypony: I generally agree with the "don't be a giant douchenozzle" principle, and as long as employees are operating in any capacity representing one of my companies they don't have permission to be a giant douchenozzle on my behalf (what they do in their own time and of their own volition I don't care about)
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: we signed it by show of hands - it was just a commitment to encourage tolerance and respect in the ecosystem, and if any of our employees overstep that we will reprimand them
mircea_popescu: trinque> rather than dissect it, I wish to stop using the wallet entirely (as I did before with btcd) and just write a sendrawtxn for shiva <<< a raw tx manipulator for trb is prolly a very useful item, really.
adlai: more technicaly commentary at https://www.youtube.com/user/USGOWeb/live and the game's moves on a clicky board where you can go back and forth at https://online-go.com/demo/114161
trinque: if only it were possible to select the transactions referencing a given address whose outputs are referenced by no other transaction's inputs
trinque: then the balance goes to -0.0002 (fee + deed spend) so I smell a floating point fuckup
trinque: I also had to lower a constant which didn't seem worth its own vpatch
pete_dushenski: were you importing into wallets that already had a balance ? just trying to understand the boundaries of this phenomenon
trinque: rather than dissect it, I wish to stop using the wallet entirely (as I did before with btcd) and just write a sendrawtxn for shiva
trinque: pete_dushenski: yep, I have seen a negative balance often
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trinque: !rate funkenstein_ 1 wrote a useful patch for importprivkey
trinque: !rate funkenstein 1 wrote a useful patch for importprivkey
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-03-2016#1427504 << read as 'headfist mining by gavinandresen', thought this sounded like a brighter, cheekier side of the old coon. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Seriously picking up a reciprocating saw was a great move.
BingoBoingo: Eh. Maybe I'm just confused. Today was a good day so brain exhausted.
BingoBoingo: Looks like a ipNohe
adlai: it's helpful for people who have never actually played go but the 9p (lighter suit, who does most of the talking) is a little wasted, explaining these most basic things
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and whats with the derps walking hunched in front of the camera << It's a common reflex among people who don't grok how cameras work in relation to their body.
asciilifeform: and yes it's a flytrap
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mircea_popescu: are we going to see a line from sea to sea before this is done ?
mircea_popescu: also why is googlebot playing like a fucking housewife.
mircea_popescu: i only see the gesturing. is there a proper feed of this ?
mircea_popescu: mkay ima pull this on a projector.
asciilifeform: fucktardedly, the talkingheads of alphago are prattling in front of an ~empty~ vertical go board. The game per se is a small corner inset !
mircea_popescu: rpet" and herp derp "i'm running a broken matching engine and find things to 'support' my nonsensical rabidism anywhere i look!!1"
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla> they also arent comparable in a sense << or in the sense of "case 1 is a derpy kid who tried his derpy time-arbitrage scheme without having the first clue as to what that entails, then whined to be made whole when it blew up" vs "case 2 - someone came into a shop, shot a patron, and now the business is charging the carpet cleaning against on its expense account". hurr durr, "the police should pay for the ca ☟︎
nubbins` has a nice baduk set
nubbins`: phun phact, the first drip coffee machine i ever owned, i was making double-strength pots for the first 6 months until i made a cup for a guest one day
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: A bit watery as is the 13th tradition
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-03-2016#1427413 << my brother was once a game programmer, for a co. that has died many years ago, and they had the contract of producing the 'official' mtg client. he had to learn the rules of the game, with much loathing, and play it for year+ straigh, all day, every day, with loathing, possibly more hours than just about anyone alive in total. still can barel ☝︎☟︎
nubbins`: and, if you'll take a look at a map of north america, twodogland is very, very far away from major shipping hubs
asciilifeform: that must be a refrigerator-sized crate??
kakobrekla: they also arent comparable in a sense not having full mempools in 2013 and having full mempools in 2016.
nubbins`: danielpbarron her statement doesn't contain the qualifiers you mention -- by my understanding of english syntax, she's making a blanket statement.
danielpbarron: also from that thread >> If a couple of pools were interested in bobbaing up MP's reputation, they could start taking longer to include transactions into blocks if bitbet addresses are involved. Just take care to not wait for way too many blocks, otherwise the pool's reputation get fucked.
nubbins`: At any rate, this isn't a chastisement. If you fuck up to this degree, you're stuck having fucked up.
nubbins`: also from the mouth of hanbot: "You weren't caught in some occult and unknowable coincidence that was out of your hands. You either didn't make sure you understood the basics of using bitcoin, or else you decided not to care. In either case, it is you that will have to adjust (and I do earnestly hope that you do; there are a lot of resources on this very forum, on IRC, and around the web that can help)."
nubbins`: from the mouth of hanbot : "Failing to use tx fees is mooching. Using a (notoriously inept) "service" that fails to use tx fees is also mooching."
mircea_popescu: gone in a weekend.
mircea_popescu: palantir may be above elon musk, but the whole thing is a "youth communist movement" side project.
danielpbarron: i mostly did cards in person. there was a windows client called apprentice i used a little
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nubbins`: until then, you're kinda just a dr. forehead but better at bleeding cash
mircea_popescu: a right, diana_coman also native speaker.
assbot: Viitorul se compune din spaima. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/24PlwJa )
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Do you have anything in particular that you would care to see translated, ideally something that isn't literal poetry? Yeah I've only just started picking RO up, so it would probably be a slow process..
mircea_popescu: hehehe. so go for it. but note that the guy was a native speaker. trilema, and especially ro trilema, is incredibly tense. in fact i do not believe harder source text exists in the whole 2k year history of the place.
mircea_popescu: which is why addition is a public matter and faith, not.
mircea_popescu: williamdunne> Are people working on translating old Trilema articles from Romanian? << there was a guy, gabrielradio, did some so-so work. it is HARD.
mircea_popescu: the whole incident is certainly a fine example of why b-a and the world generally can't work as a "mp supported" thing. gotta be very expensive to be a lord, or else self-flattery is much to powerful a force.
mircea_popescu: then that bizarre theory got put to the test and it broke like a bridge made out of rickety reeds and now the unspeakable happened, and there is the mirror and oh god the horror.
mircea_popescu: hanbot nubbins` is just doing his trademark low hanging fruit thing, "what's the lowest effort thing i could possibly do to maintain the pretense i'm doing something". that's his coping mechanism with life, it "worked pretty well" or whatever, it's what he knows, it's what he does. there's a whole stack of these idiots running around like pointless chickens, i dunno that much need be explained.
hanbot: so mircea_popescu do you suppose these people were hacked or something, ie some kinda inept Chinese-PR? even without nubbins` meltdown, you have PeterL, the ex-mildmannered professional chemist with a family, going http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-03-2016#1427105 like a five year old suddenly, what the fuck is this?! ☝︎
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell fluffypony Did you really sign a document about being more polite?
danielpbarron: the solution is a simple one: stop being poor
danielpbarron: no i've specifically seen the argument made from a winner that he needed the funds to seed his next bet
danielpbarron: strange that they'd do it on a 50/50 bet though
nubbins`: yes, will pull those first. i think it's only a couple
asciilifeform: phun phakt, it is a dilapidated post office, where the letters on the sign have fallen off, it is a 'p s ffic' now i think.
asciilifeform: but i do recommend to nubbins` , to take a breather
solrodar: !rate nubbins` 0 +1 is making some valid points / -1 is being a complete dick about it