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mircea_popescu: actually speaking of dc motors, i wonder if you could get
a hamster to wheel-power
a pogo.
mircea_popescu: but i had no idea that things could pop if you use parallel! or that you could possibly need
a breaker! or things.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform speaking of plugging into mains, you know that if you bought
a bunch of power strips and powered your entire house out of the same socket it'd eventually
a) start
a fire ; b) pop the fuse ; c) all of the above ?
mircea_popescu: win. and if i add
a third, what happens to the current ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and you know this for
a fact ? maybe the profusion is just because people like encapsulated things.
mircea_popescu: I'm not necessarily against taking mp's lines and looking in all the folds carefully ; but it's
a little silly to do this run off with what i think an angle might have been, damn everything else.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> PeterL: he suggested (i still can't tell if seriously!) to plug them in ~series~ << no dude. he said "see if your isp is willing to give you
a c block / upgrade your connection. buy
a coupla bridges of 32 or 64, make
a high voltage rectifier thingee, and power
a bunch of boxes" then you went all crazy about how series omaygerd! and i spent the rest of the interval poking fun at it. this is an exact para
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform i think his plan to fight some derps doing black magic is not to squarely ignore them, but to DO THINGS to anti-magic their magic. << Oh it's not
a plan. It's noise
BingoBoingo: <jurov> was
a while to get used to it. i wonder how was BingoBoingo keeping track of his nickname when it was different every time << nicknames attach to bars. If bar isn't frequented enough "hey you" workz
mircea_popescu: the ~only point i made prior to the whole "way things are done!11" explosion was, that for the price of buying extension cords for all the shitty little bricks he can make
a central power source himself.
mircea_popescu: anyway, would it make you happier if he puts
a transformer in between, takes it from 300 V 1
A to 4.5 V 60
A and then parallels that ?
mircea_popescu: i've been trying to follow this with the huts etc but it doesn't coallesce into
a something.
mircea_popescu: "i want someone to make me
a si foundry and i'll strangle anyone who even tries to make
a power source!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seriously, you can't protect
a circuit from overvoltage, overcurrent and everything else ?
assbot: Logged on 18-03-2016 14:46:53; BingoBoingo: I don't mind it being used where necessary, but it is still
a slave name
mircea_popescu: if i ever open
a brothel here, we'll have
a rsa night.
mircea_popescu: i suspect through
a massive dose of not giving
a shit.
jurov: was
a while to get used to it. i wonder how was BingoBoingo keeping track of his nickname when it was different every time
BingoBoingo: Also the consonants have to be able to survive
a prnounced slur
mircea_popescu: ha. don't you need
a moustache to legally wear that name ?
mircea_popescu: PeterL i knew
a guy who would introduce himself to half drunk british roses as "hi, my name's pizda ma-tii!"
BingoBoingo: <PeterL> when you meet
a girl at the bar, do you introduce yourself "Hi, I'm BingoBoingo"? << It's an occasion to use the legacy identfier
PeterL: when you meet
a girl at the bar, do you introduce yourself "Hi, I'm BingoBoingo"?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you know he has
a point tho, just because someone stole or didn't stole it, what's that to you ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> you gonna get yourself
a pinoy sunni name son ? << Maybe
BingoBoingo: I don't mind it being used where necessary, but it is still
a slave name
☟︎ mircea_popescu: (for the curious, the way private sealed writs work in fiat court is, the presumed author is confronted with them. if he accepts them all is fine, if however he repudiates them the circus starts, because the case forks into
a sub-case about whether the item is genuine or not, gotta have witnesses as to the writ, experts as to the writ, you can be there
a month with the piece of paper.)
mircea_popescu: i had the pleasure of
a coupla of such nonsense back in the day.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> danielpbarron and what if they can't fit down the chute ? << Plop them on top of
a chute and wait for the fold mold to liquefy them
mircea_popescu: i must say i'm pretty impressed with this darkcoin thing and with the chinese govt generally.
a) no idiotic derpage
a la "bitlicense" ; b) actually prosecute scammers.
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Or do I need
a different species of scholarship for that
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Speaking of this topic, can you spin up
a justification of Obesity being
a Cardinal sin as if Man is created in God's image defiling oneself with obesity is akin to defiling God?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well If I really am
a sunni I gotta take from the Jews and the Christians, because that's how history works
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Until I finish
a religious tract Imma just treat satisfying the will of the gods as alternately
a question of conduct and business
solrodar: "mircea_popescu says so, and you're an idiot" is not
a justification
solrodar: BingoBoingo: indeed it is complex, and so if bettors have to take
a haircut because mircea_popescu is senior, then that's fine, as long as there's
a justification for it
BingoBoingo: solrodar: I'm suggesting it as
a rabbit hole to read moar on to understand how complex the matter of claims is, not strictly legally but morally
solrodar: because you still haven't shown why
a non-urgent supplier should take priority over
a customer
mircea_popescu: "if you didn't need to pay him as
a supplier, fuck him". how's the receiver to justify this "downgrade" ?
PeterL: but in order to have that flexibility, suppliers as
a class must be senior to customers as
a class
mircea_popescu: and 2. IF you want to argue against something i said, do yourself the favour and BRING VERY GOOD ARGUMENTS. because your own personal word will count for nothing much, and you'll just make
a clown out of yourself.
mircea_popescu: two things, read them outloud to yourself. 1. if
A is
a class senior to B, then receiver MAY NOT proceed to pay B until he has disposed of
A entirely. therefore suppliers MUST be in
A and cusomters in B, BECAUSE customers can do nothing to injure the bankrupt concern,. whereas the suppliers can.
solrodar: I have only 0.2 BTC of outstanding bets, so this isn't really
a conflict of interest for me
davout: solrodar: well, how about you think of
a bitcoin transaction fee as
a certified bill? it is necessary to pay it for the receiver to be able to actually bettors for example
mircea_popescu: and in general this inept "mp said something ; i said something else because i'm just as much
a X as mp" is the font of ineptitude.
solrodar: davout: "payment of the liabilities on
a best-effort basis, ordered by priority (certified bills, bet winnings & refunds, shareholders)"
mircea_popescu: solrodar the receiver has the option to set aside bills anyway, so that's not much of
a practical consideration.
solrodar: BingoBoingo: not paying customers injures the brand
a lot more than not paying mircea_popescu
solrodar: ok, but it's obviously
a principle you wish to adopt
mircea_popescu: if you ask "there's
a general principle in liquidation" you are necessarily asking about fiat practice, there not being another practice in the field.
nubbins`: <+solrodar>but before it gets written into
a contract I want to question why we're presuming that bills are more senior than bettor funds << i want to question why you used "we"
solrodar: so you're saying there's
a general principle in liquidation that all claims by suppliers and employees are senior to all claims by customers?
mircea_popescu: you can't base your judgement about what to do with
a category on the basis of what you know or "can imagine" in terms of examples from that category.
mircea_popescu: "i just disproved
a general consideration by my misinterpretation of
a particular" you say ?
BingoBoingo: Also in Davout's favor is he parted out and closed
a contentious property before after he acquired Instawallet and discovered it to be toxic. He's got experience dealing with the aggro.
solrodar: but before it gets written into
a contract I want to question why we're presuming that bills are more senior than bettor funds
assbot: Logged on 18-03-2016 12:13:45; assbot: Logged on 18-03-2016 04:55:17; mircea_popescu:
a) eye-readable contract ; b) machine-verifiable signature ; c) that can also be verified by hand ; d) in the same item.
assbot: Logged on 18-03-2016 05:52:52; mircea_popescu: clouds have
a function beyond their perceptible form ; "sybils" means nothing other than the cartel.
assbot: Logged on 18-03-2016 04:55:17; mircea_popescu:
a) eye-readable contract ; b) machine-verifiable signature ; c) that can also be verified by hand ; d) in the same item.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: clouds have
a function beyond their perceptible form ; "sybils" means nothing other than the cartel.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: if nonce demand is kept high enough, anyone operating
a node that can produce digests has something of value to miners.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: could the digest be
a tool for node operators to ensure access to miners?
mircea_popescu: qntra model really taught us
a lot. only thing is... came years after original bitbet.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: bbet share payment also avoids the issue of mods dragging their heels in resolving
a sticky situation, as per hour fees would. share payment also puts skin in the game and flat-rate payment incentives efficiency.
assbot: Logged on 18-03-2016 02:18:42; asciilifeform: 'I did fight things out in court. It just occurred in secret, and while
a proper description would require the use of vulgarity, I'll summarize by saying I was railroaded. The length of time between when I received the PRTT order, and when I was found in contempt (ex parte) was about 5 weeks. For comparison the /median /time between filing and disposition of
a civil contempt charge in federal court du
mircea_popescu: shares just means dilution. it's not necessarily
a bad idea, use qntra experience.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski:
a) why is that and b) out of whose piggy?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes
a simple way to address the problem is put in
a fixed per-bet fee, of say .2 or .3 or w/e, and make bet minimum 1 or somesuch.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: assuming: betbet revenue is 100x divs (fault in several ways), and 2500 hours of time, and 0.4% of bitbet revenue to mods implies
a .18 btc/hr mod rate. perverse incentive, though.